Please don't remove multiuser! It's a useful feature. Allow the user to decide the security risk for themselves.
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Don Raikes <don.rai...@oracle.com> wrote: > Amadeusz, > > If you can't test Braille support, don't just remove it, ask for help > testing. > > I would be happy to test Braille support on Linux, and I am sure there are > others who would be willing to test as well. > > I haven't ever used the screen package per se, but I am a strong proponent > for ensuring things at least stay as accessible as they are if not improve. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axel Beckert [mailto:a...@debian.org] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 1:30 PM > To: g...@ml.grml.org; debian-accessibil...@lists.debian.org > Cc: Amadeusz Sławiński > Subject: Some features may be dropped from GNU Screen in the future > (including braille support) > > Hi, > > on the GNU Screen development mailing list, there's currently a thread > which discusses how to get some drive in the GNU Screen development again. > > Amadeusz Sławiński (Cc'ed) has a git repo with some a little bit more > disruptive changes at https://github.com/amade/screen/tree/devel/src > > In the following mail he describes what he changed and removed. (I've > shortened the mail. "[…]" show points where I removed parts. Full mail at > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/screen-devel/2014-04/msg00008.html) > > One of the GNU Screen feature which are about to be dropped in the future > is Screen's braille support. (Which is not enabled in Debian's screen > package as far as I can see.) > > I know that there are quite some visually handicapped Grml users, so I > send this mail to the debian-accessibility mailing list and the general > Grml mailing list. Reply-To is set to the screen-users mailing list. (I > don't read debian-accessibility, but both other lists.) I also allowed > myself to Bcc some other heavy screen users I know personally. > > So if you use Screen's braille features (whatever they are exactly) or any > other of the explicitly listed features in the mail below, and want to > continue to using them, please speak up now. Upstream is also in need of > someone testing (and maybe maintaining) that code. > > One potentially to be removed screen feature which IIRC is used by Grml by > default is the nethack mode with a little bit more cryptic screen messages > than by default. Not sure how mission-critical that one is. ;-) > > ----- Forwarded message from Amadeusz Sławiński <am...@asmblr.net> ----- > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:47:21 +0200 > From: Amadeusz Sławiński <am...@asmblr.net> > To: screen-de...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer > > […] > > > * new features (256 colors in hardstatus, hardstatus on top, > > > truecolor, ...) > […] > > > * removal of ancient code (removed most of #ifdef for ancient > > > systems) > […] > > I fear that this may cause a lot of breakage. Linux(*) is by far not > > the only platform for Screen out there. > > > > (*) You wrote earlier that you only tested your code on Linux. Linux > > is by far not the only platform, GNU Screen runs on. > > That's why I warn before hand. Screen is project which accumulated more > then 25 years of code according to copyrights. And while it may be > interesting to historians, I think it's time source is stripped of those > workarounds and retested on machines people use, because it's likely that > it just works with far fewer hacks, than it had. > > > > * removal of features which didn't seem useful or could be replaced > […] > > Please list which features you removed, so that people at least have a > > chance to object. > […] > > That's why I want to talk about it before I do anything drastic, one of > reasons I tried to describe my changes at least a bit ;) > > >From fast comparing between source files: > multiuser - seemed more like security risk to me braille - couldn't test > :( utmp - seemed broken and there is also utmpx? > nethack - funny, but who really needs it? > zmodem - according to wiki some ancient file transfer protocol there may > be something else... > > […] > > I want to make sure that screen stays as usable as it is to people who use > it, but also would like to see new stuff happening, that's why I started > this talk. > > Amadeusz > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > Regards, Axel > -- > ,''`. | Axel Beckert <a...@debian.org>, http://people.debian.org/~abe/ > : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin > `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE > `- | 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140402202950.gq27...@sym.noone.org > > > _______________________________________________ > screen-users mailing list > screen-users@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users > --
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