On 3/4/16 12:39 AM, "Christoph Sch?fer" wrote:
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 03. M?rz 2016 um 18:14 Uhr
>> Von: "John Jason Jordan" <johnxj at comcast.net>
>> An: scribus at lists.scribus.net
>> Betreff: Re: [scribus] Bullets and numbering
>>
>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 10:55:52 +0100
>> ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch> dijo:
>>
>>>> I think a Tools menu would be a better place for turning on/off the
>>>> different tool panes.
>>>
>>> i agree... but: in the "scribus language" the tools are the buttons
>>> used to create the items...
>>> if somebody can come up with a better name for the current "tools",
>>> i'm for a  switch :-)
>>>
>>> ... or a different name for the tools in windows?
>>>
>>> i'd also welcome if the scripter would be moved under tools...
>>> (well, we have to keep the windows menu and, personally, i'd prefer
>>> not to have one more menu entry...)
>>>
>>> btw, i'm not sure either that table should be a main menu either: why
>>> it's not an item as all other items are?
>>
>> How hard would it be to make all (or most) of the menu items user
>> customizable?
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> This thread has accumulated a lot of various topics. I'm trying to address 
> the major points.
>
> - Keywords not available in the 1.5.x Online Help: It was stated clearly in 
> the release notes that the OH won't be updated until the release of 1.6.0. 
> There are too many expected changes to the UI and otherwise to waste our time 
> on documenting transitional changes.
>
> - Menu entry "Windows": The Scribus UI has originally been modelled after the 
> most popular DTP programme back then, QuarkXPress 3, which included "Windows" 
> for all tools that didn't fit anywhere else. I don't know whether current 
> versions of QXP still include this menu entry, but it would be a major break 
> for experienced Scribus users to lose this menu. Moreover, "Windows" is 
> referring to feature windows, i.e., dialogues.

I've never seen Quark Express, but I would be surprised to see the UI 
hasn't changed quite a bit.  They give you a whopping 3 day trial, how 
many people could make decision on any sophisticated software in that 
time frame.

> - Menu entry "Tables": This was a deliberate addition for two reasons. One, 
> "Tables" is familiar to users of word processors, and two, it reduces the 
> size of other menu entries, especially with future enhancements to tables in 
> mind.
>
> - Customisation of the menu bar: As far as I'm concerned, no way! It would 
> defy any attempt at writing useful documentation. The latter needs a reliable 
> and stable UI structure. What we need is a flexible approach to tool palettes 
> as they are available in products from Adobe or Quark, but also in projects 
> like GIMP and Krita.
>
> - The Scripter should keep its separate menu entry.
>
> - Online Help should remain a separate window, because otherwise you wouldn't 
> be able to switch back and forth between the Help window and your document.
>
>
> Christoph
>
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