On 3/21/16 12:02 PM, Craig Bradney wrote:
>
>> On 21 Mar 2016, at 14:18, Ken Springer <snowshed1 at q.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/21/16 3:16 AM, Craig Bradney wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 21 Mar 2016, at 09:07, ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hey
>>>>
>>>>> On 21/03/16 00:59, Ken Springer wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/1/16 10:50 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
>>>>>> Scribus 1.4.6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can it do bullets and numbering?  Searching Help doesn't seem to come up
>>>>>> with anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> After 2-3 hours of trying to figure this out, I'm throwing in the towel.  
>>>>>  LOL  Going to give1.5.1 a try.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, I found the suggested video to be basically not worth my time.  YMMV
>>>>
>>>> fwiw: if you had a hard time figuring out how to get the manual 
>>>> bullets/numbering to work, and you are not keen to be patient in front of 
>>>> unfinished products, i would not recommend you to download a development 
>>>> version of scribus (until you're proficient with the stable one)
>>>>
>>>> in 1.5.1 bullets and numbering are feature that are still being tested and 
>>>> at my knowledge they have not been extensively been used in production.
>>>>
>>>> of course, i've been working with 1.5.x for years ... but there were not 
>>>> only tears of joy...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> And bullets and numbering were externally developed and due to issues we 
>>> almost removed them. We've got concrete plans for 1.5.2 and 1.5.3, at some 
>>> point we will have to fix bullets and numbering properly.
>>
>> If I may make a suggestion...
>>
>> Fix the bullets and numbering before you add new features.  And anything 
>> else you know to be broken.
>>
>> One of the biggest irritants for me with FOSS software is new features are 
>> added before existing ones work correctly.  Kind of like adding a 
>> turbocharger to the engine of a car when you can't keep air in the tires.  
>> LOL
>>
>> IMO, making a small program work right is better than a large program with 
>> problems.
>>
>> The aforementioned is why I no longer use or recommend Libre Office. Things 
>> I wanted to use were broken, but the developers would add something new.  I 
>> wasn't the only one expressing this view either.  :-)
>>
>> When asked about MS Office alternatives, I'll mention LO, but I also tell 
>> them why I gave up.
>
> You?re free to give up on Scribus too. We?re free to code it how we like.

Depends on the definition of "give up".  :-)  If you mean "give up" 
because it's harder to do the current project in Scribus?  Guilty.  If 
you mean totally abandon it, not guilty.  Scribus worked good on the 
previous project I did with it.

> However, we have the same aims in mind that you describe, but it takes time 
> with only a few hours a week available. We set our targets based on whats 
> achievable to fix certain goals. Bullets and numbering is about last on the 
> list.

Just philosophical discussion here for me....

Which takes priority, fixing a goal you "added" first, or adding a new 
goal first?


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Ken
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