"the ocean" is definitely in 3. although it is possible that it is in 12,
it is highly unlikely because that would make each of the 4 beats extremely
far apart, and hard to keep straight. i can say with almost complete
certainty that it is in 3/4.
i'm pretty sure "one" is in 6, for the most part. it sounds to me like
there are portions of straight 4, but its a little tough to tell when it
changes time signatures. the pattern definitely seems to be a repeating 6,
so its probably 6/8 with some straight 4/4.
please shoot me down if i'm wrong.
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First a nitpick, then a comment. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong,
but I don't think either of these songs are in 3/4. True they both use
compound beats (beats are divided into three), but it seems there are still
4 beats per measure. I think this would be written as 12/4. Again, maybe
someone who knows more theory than me can straighten this out.
Either way though, what I want to say is that Sunny Day has always liked to
write songs with compound beats. About half of the songs on LP2 had
compound beats, as well as most of the songs on Frog Queen (I think there
were a few 3/4 on that album). It's one of their most distinctive
characteristics if you ask me. Will's drumming on the songs with compound
beats is amazing to listen to. In any event, I wouldn't be suprised or
disappointed if a large portion of the songs on The Rising Tide are done
with compound beats, as long as they mix a few 4/4 and other signatures in
there.
-e-
Steve said...
I'd also have to say that the production on the pink album is pretty good.
The drum sound is nice and crisp. The guitar sound leaves a bit to be
desired, as it also does on diary. Diary may sound tinny, but I think it
adds to the overall charm of the album.
I actually really liked the production on how it feels. What you call
distance is actually a breathy quality that I think really makes the album
stand out. I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but its almost as if
the album sounds alive. It's kind of hard to explain.
Oh, and for the record, I like "one", but what's with the 3/4 timing? Is the
whole album going to be in the same signature. "The ocean" was also in 3/4.
Cheers,
Steve Sidoli
http://kiss.to/frodo
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From: Charles Scheer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 9:44 PM
Subject: [sdre-l]: [sdre-l] On Napster, Timebomb, and production...
> 1. I second the request to put the new stuff on Napster. Please, if
> you've got "Rising Tide", share it. While you can, that is.
>
> 2. It seems like just yesterday people were complaining that Sub Pop
> didn't do anything for Sunny Day (and they didn't), and now some are
> bashing Time Bomb for doing what amounts to "too much." I definitely
> think the label's (over) enthusiasm is a bit weird, and it is a real
> pain to keep having to jump through all those hoops to get to the new
> stuff, but at least they're not holding it above our heads like Sub Pop
> did. I for one like Time Bomb so far, and hope they keep up the interest
> in marketing the band. (This is the first time I can remember
> "marketing" being used in the same sentence as "Sunny Day".)
>
> 3. The new songs (all two of them we've heard so far) have been bashed
> as "overproduced" by everyone's sister's second cousin-twice-removed's
> half-step-grandparent. But to these ears, the songs are a VAST
> improvement over the primitive dankness of "Diary" (like it or not,
> it's dated, and I have wished long and hard they'd re-record it in a
> real studio with some ambience), the positively poor production of the
> pink album (those drums sound like wet fish slapping on a slab of
> greased plastic as recorded by a Realistic kiddie mike), and "How It
> Feels' " almost skin-tight, cellophane-wrapped air (why is it that the
> more I turn up the volume on "Pillars", the more distant the music
> seems to be). Far from bitching about the production of the three
> records prior, I'm simply saying that from what I've heard so far, the
> band has finally made a friend of the studio, and have dressed their
> songs in a style and character that seems to fit their complexity. Let's
> give the thing a chance before crying "sellout" (imagine that!!), and
> wait until we can really get a feel for the thing as a whole.
>
> I for one am looking forward to this month's revelations, and hope
> nobody waiting to play spoil sport simply because it doesn't sound like
> "8" can let us savor the moment and inspect the good upon (complete)
> arrival.
>
>
>
