Thanks for the info and your thoughts, Darren.  That scalability article 
-- the whole site, in fact -- is a great resource.

Andreas

Darren Boyd wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Andreas Kirn <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>
>     But I don't want this to turn into a religious debate about Rails, so
>     let me rephrase the question: If one were looking for a Ruby framework
>     to build a large, high-traffic application, which of the previously
>     listed frameworks would you recommend and why?
>
>
> If Rails is still in the group of 'previously listed frameworks', than 
> I would recommend it.  I haven't used any of the others, so I can't 
> offer much of an opinion either way.  I've played with Merb and 
> DataMapper, and I like what I see, but I haven't done anything serious 
> enough with either of them to form a real opinion (I am planning on 
> it, for the most part I only lack the time).
>
>  
>
>
>     Btw, do you know of any high-traffic social or e-commerce apps
>     built on
>     Rails, other than Twitter?
>
>
>
> http://rails100.pbwiki.com/Alexa+Rankings
>
> This is a good read too..
>
> http://highscalability.com/friends-sale-architecture-300-million-page-view-month-facebook-ror-app
>
> I've worked on http://jibjab.com/ and am currently working on 
> http://msnack.com/.  Both are rails sites.  JibJab takes some serious 
> bursty traffic at times (they have good relationships with CNN and Fox 
> News and few other good sources of viewers).  They also deal with a 
> lot of large uploads, so the problems they face are things like 
> mongrel starvation.
>
> mSnack has a lot less web traffic than JibJab (in fact, it has very 
> little), but there is *a lot* of message delivery activity in the 
> backend.  Believe it or not, it is using Ruby Threads and 
> ActiveRecord.  Trust me, no one was more surprised than me to see it 
> work; and work fairly well :).
>
> Of course, a lot of the performance issues we deal with in Ruby-land 
> are in Ruby itself, not in any of the frameworks.  At the end of the 
> day, scalability comes from decent programmers who understand the code 
> they commit to source control.
>
> I can only recommend Rails because I've had success with it.  But that 
> recommendation is only good for me.  Ultimately you have to find a 
> technology that you will be successful with.  Good luck :).
>
> Darren
>
>
> >


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