I'm using both Merb and DataMapper in production for several applications and haven't had any real problems. I've contributed to Merb and have been an active contributor to DM until recently due to work overload. Personally, I don't use AR anymore as I prefer DM.
With Legacy Databases, I'd go with DataMapper. Support for multiple databases comes out of the box and isn't changing so much that you couldn't use it, but rather just need to keep up to date with what's going on - same with Merb. On Aug 31, 4:15 pm, "Matt Aimonetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rails is great for building a simple "dynamic" website or a quick > proof-of-concept app, but let's face it, it's too slow and rigid for > large web applications. At least in my experience. > > Not in my. Rails is fine for large web apps as long as you are willing to > extend it a bit. > > Pretty soon I found myself favoring one over the other, but I'm curious as > to the > experiences other developers might have had with these frameworks. Are > they stable and scalable enough to be ready for prime time? What about > ease of use, extensibility, helpers, community, etc? > > I've been using Merb on production apps since 0.3.7 (we are at 0.9.5) and > really like it as a "hacker framework". It's much more ruby like than Rails > and is very flexible yet way faster than Rails. Being an active contributor > I guess I'm biased but the code is just really clean and makes a lot of > sense to me. The community is great and as we are going towards version 1.0 > (planned to be released at Merb Camp in San Diegohttp://merbcamp.com) few > books are being written or already in beta. > > The code pre 1.0 is changing a bit quickly as we are breaking few things > before making a very stable 1.0 API. You can also create a sinatra app in > Merb in no time (email me for an example). Merb is also backed up by major > Ruby players and Engine Yard which makes it a perfect alternative to Rails. > However, once again it's a lower level framework and I wouldn't recommend to > start with Merb if you're a newbie. > > Regarding Legacy databases, DataMapper is just totally awesome but still > changing quite a lot lately. ActiveRecord can play very nicely with legacy > database and other conventions if you know write a wrapper plugin to access > the legacy database. (I have an old blog post about that > athttp://railsontherun.com, email me if you need help) > > -Matt > > p.s: I believe Camping isn't maintained anymore (_why is mainly working on > Shoes lately) > P.s.s: the other frameworks have very little users making them less likely > to succeed. > P.s.s.s: Merb, Ramaze and Sinatra would be the only ones I would look at if > I were you. > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Steven Fines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a correlary to this question... I'm learning Rails and Ruby from an > > experienced J2EE developer's perspective - which of these frameworks works > > well (in your experience) to managing legacy (i.e. pre-existing) databases > > and interacting with ESB? > > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Andreas Kirn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Rails is great for building a simple "dynamic" website or a quick > >> proof-of-concept app, but let's face it, it's too slow and rigid for > >> large web applications. At least in my experience. > > >> What I'm looking for is a lighter, more flexible framework that will let > >> me code in Ruby and use DataMapper without forcing me to conform to too > >> many silly conventions. So far, I've played with Merb > >> (http://merbivore.com/) and Ramaze (http://ramaze.net/). Pretty soon I > >> found myself favoring one over the other, but I'm curious as to the > >> experiences other developers might have had with these frameworks. Are > >> they stable and scalable enough to be ready for prime time? What about > >> ease of use, extensibility, helpers, community, etc? > > >> And, while we're at it, what about Camping > >> (http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/camping/), Nitro > >> (http://www.nitroproject.org/), Wuby (http://wuby.org/), Halcyon > >> (http://halcyon.rubyforge.org/), or Vintage > >> (http://vintage.devjavu.com/)? Have you used any of these frameworks? > >> Do you think any of them has the potential to become the framework of > >> choice for the more advanced developer? > > >> Btw, what happened to Sinatra? > > >> Andreas > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ SD Ruby mailing list [email protected] http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
