Re: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

[David Belote via 4D_Tech]

I was disappointed when 4D v18.1 was released and it did not include the 
missing Form Wizard in the Database Projects.  I really want to use Projects 
because the code can be versioned as Ascii as normal for nearly all other code, 
but without the Form Wizard it is difficult.  It also makes me wonder “what 
else” is missing.  I wonder why this traditional 4D tool is missing.

 

From: David Belote 
Date: Friday, February 28, 2020 at 7:09 AM
To: 4D iNUG Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: Re: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

 

You guys solved it.  I had created my v18 test databases as database projects 
instead of databases.  Database Projects appear to be new and I’ll have to read 
up on them.  I knew that 4D v18 was introducing a way to manage code in a 
non-binary format, but I did not know the details.

 

Thanks,

 

David Belote

 

From: Jeremy French 
Date: Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:01 PM
To: 4D iNUG Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Cc: David Belote 
Subject: Re: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

 

Hi David,

 

When you create a new database with v18, you can choose between:

1) Database Project; or

2) Database.

 

Database Project (also known as Project Mode) has no form wizard.

 

Database (also know as Binary Mode) has the familiar form wizard: the gear 
button behaves as it did in v17 and earlier.

 

To create a v18 database in Binary Mode, choose FILE -> NEW -> DATABASE, as 
shown in this screen shot:

 

https://i.postimg.cc/mrsb44rY/2020-02-27-14-49-22.png

 

Best regards,

Jeremy French

 




On Feb 23, 2020, at 10:01 PM, David Belote via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
wrote:

 

Specific version is 4D v18 build 18.246707…




The Gear button at the bottom of the Forms page used to provide options for 
using the Form Wizard.  Now all it lists is “New Form” which provides the exact 
same functionality that the plus sign to the left of it has.  Both of them just 
let a blank form be with no buttons or field chooser to pick from.

Is that what others see as well?  How do I fix this?

 

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Re: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

[David Belote via 4D_Tech]

You guys solved it.  I had created my v18 test databases as database projects 
instead of databases.  Database Projects appear to be new and I’ll have to read 
up on them.  I knew that 4D v18 was introducing a way to manage code in a 
non-binary format, but I did not know the details.

 

Thanks,

 

David Belote

 

From: Jeremy French 
Date: Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:01 PM
To: 4D iNUG Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Cc: David Belote 
Subject: Re: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

 

Hi David,

 

When you create a new database with v18, you can choose between:

1) Database Project; or

2) Database.

 

Database Project (also known as Project Mode) has no form wizard.

 

Database (also know as Binary Mode) has the familiar form wizard: the gear 
button behaves as it did in v17 and earlier.

 

To create a v18 database in Binary Mode, choose FILE -> NEW -> DATABASE, as 
shown in this screen shot:

 

https://i.postimg.cc/mrsb44rY/2020-02-27-14-49-22.png

 

Best regards,

Jeremy French

 



On Feb 23, 2020, at 10:01 PM, David Belote via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
wrote:

 

Specific version is 4D v18 build 18.246707…



The Gear button at the bottom of the Forms page used to provide options for 
using the Form Wizard.  Now all it lists is “New Form” which provides the exact 
same functionality that the plus sign to the left of it has.  Both of them just 
let a blank form be with no buttons or field chooser to pick from.

Is that what others see as well?  How do I fix this?

 

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Re: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

[Jeremy French via 4D_Tech]

Hi David,

When you create a new database with v18, you can choose between:
1) Database Project; or
2) Database.

Database Project (also known as Project Mode) has no form wizard.

Database (also know as Binary Mode) has the familiar form wizard: the gear 
button behaves as it did in v17 and earlier.

To create a v18 database in Binary Mode, choose FILE -> NEW -> DATABASE, as 
shown in this screen shot:

https://i.postimg.cc/mrsb44rY/2020-02-27-14-49-22.png 


Best regards,
Jeremy French


> On Feb 23, 2020, at 10:01 PM, David Belote via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Specific version is 4D v18 build 18.246707…

> The Gear button at the bottom of the Forms page used to provide options for 
> using the Form Wizard.  Now all it lists is “New Form” which provides the 
> exact same functionality that the plus sign to the left of it has.  Both of 
> them just let a blank form be with no buttons or field chooser to pick from.
> 
> Is that what others see as well?  How do I fix this?

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AW: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

[Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech]

It's in the R-release channel > Beta version forum.
The subject of the post is "Form wizard / assistant".

Maybe you have to be a partner to access this forum, I don't know.

Regards
Lutz


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Betreff: Re: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

Hallo, can´t open the Link ?

Regards
Axel Kohlepp

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Re: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

[Axel Kohlepp via 4D_Tech]

Hallo, can´t open the Link ?

Regards
Axel Kohlepp

Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech schrieb:

See also this thread on the forums:



The idea is to get generic forms is using generic built listboxes or similar. 
And there already such components available, e.g. by Th. Maul called AutoForms.

Regards
Lutz

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AW: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

[Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech]

See also this thread on the forums:



The idea is to get generic forms is using generic built listboxes or similar. 
And there already such components available, e.g. by Th. Maul called AutoForms.

Regards
Lutz

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RE: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

[Tai Bui via 4D_Tech]

To add onto that. Project mode does have a "shortcut" way to add fields and 
field titles to the form:
https://kb.4d.com/assetid=78416

Best Regards,
-Tai B.

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From: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> On Behalf Of Tom Benedict via 
4D_Tech
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Cc: Tom Benedict 
Subject: Re: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

If you’re using v18 in Project Mode, there is no Form Wizard. Details here:  
http://151.80.33.215/4Dv18/4D/18/Creating-a-form-using-the-Form-Wizard.300-4575673.en.html
 
<http://151.80.33.215/4Dv18/4D/18/Creating-a-form-using-the-Form-Wizard.300-4575673.en.html>
 

Tom Benedict 

> On Feb 23, 2020, at 19:01, David Belote via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I’m wondering if I have a corrupted 4D v18.0 macOS install.  The Form Wizard 
> that has existed since the earliest days of 4D is missing and I can’t build 
> table forms.
> 
> Specific version is 4D v18 build 18.246707.  I downloaded it on the first day 
> it was available to non-partners.
> 
> The Gear button at the bottom of the Forms page used to provide options for 
> using the Form Wizard.  Now all it lists is “New Form” which provides the 
> exact same functionality that the plus sign to the left of it has.  Both of 
> them just let a blank form be with no buttons or field chooser to pick from.
> 
> Is that what others see as well?  How do I fix this?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Dave Belote
> 

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Re: 4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

[Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech]

If you’re using v18 in Project Mode, there is no Form Wizard. Details here:  
http://151.80.33.215/4Dv18/4D/18/Creating-a-form-using-the-Form-Wizard.300-4575673.en.html
 

 

Tom Benedict 

> On Feb 23, 2020, at 19:01, David Belote via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I’m wondering if I have a corrupted 4D v18.0 macOS install.  The Form Wizard 
> that has existed since the earliest days of 4D is missing and I can’t build 
> table forms.
> 
> Specific version is 4D v18 build 18.246707.  I downloaded it on the first day 
> it was available to non-partners.
> 
> The Gear button at the bottom of the Forms page used to provide options for 
> using the Form Wizard.  Now all it lists is “New Form” which provides the 
> exact same functionality that the plus sign to the left of it has.  Both of 
> them just let a blank form be with no buttons or field chooser to pick from.
> 
> Is that what others see as well?  How do I fix this?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Dave Belote
> 

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4D v18.0 LTS - Form Wizard Missing

[David Belote via 4D_Tech]

I’m wondering if I have a corrupted 4D v18.0 macOS install.  The Form Wizard 
that has existed since the earliest days of 4D is missing and I can’t build 
table forms.

 

Specific version is 4D v18 build 18.246707.  I downloaded it on the first day 
it was available to non-partners.

 

The Gear button at the bottom of the Forms page used to provide options for 
using the Form Wizard.  Now all it lists is “New Form” which provides the exact 
same functionality that the plus sign to the left of it has.  Both of them just 
let a blank form be with no buttons or field chooser to pick from.

 

Is that what others see as well?  How do I fix this?

 

Thank you,

 

Dave Belote

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