[abcusers] RE: ABC transcrivers ID

2001-09-02 Thread Forgeot Eric

I remember fantasising, a couple of years ago, about a usenet-style
network of intercommunicating, self-updating abc tune-servers.

To avoid the necessity of having a grand guru or an Abc office
center authorizing personnal identification number, I propose we
could think of a logical code deriving from our country, area, and
/or town etc. For the countries we could use a number, like those
used in Isbn book code, but it's not really speaking, so we could
use the internet code or the classification used in genealogy. 

for the country we have :
http://www.geneanet.com/countrycode.php3?lang=fr (links to
regional code for some countries)

and for regions in France :
http://www.geneanet.com/genealogie/fr/countrycode/country/FRA

In canada and Usa :
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3699/gen_form.html

So I come from France, Champagne (Aube). My code could begin like
that :

FRA.CHA.10

I may also add the first letters of my town, or the postal code :
Fra.Cha.10.Tro
The problem is for huge town, with several abcusers. Why not
adding the first letters of the name ? Fra.Cha.10.Tro.For
But it's quite a long code.

Personally I don't think it's a good idea to use this code in the
X: field, because some programs get upset with this (for example a
 %text is removed after saving tune if it is on the X: line in
AbcMus). The Z: field is for the transcriver, so we ought to use
it. In an other hand, increasing the X:number to a 8 number code
could be a good idea, for identifing volumes, music style etc. in
an abc collection. 


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Re: [abcusers] RE: ABC transcrivers ID

2001-09-02 Thread Richard Robinson

On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, [iso-8859-1] Forgeot Eric wrote:

 I remember fantasising, a couple of years ago, about a usenet-style
 network of intercommunicating, self-updating abc tune-servers.
 
 To avoid the necessity of having a grand guru or an Abc office
 center authorizing personnal identification number, I propose we
 could think of a logical code deriving from our country, area, and
 /or town etc. For the countries we could use a number, like those
 used in Isbn book code, but it's not really speaking, so we could
 use the internet code or the classification used in genealogy. 
 
 for the country we have :
 http://www.geneanet.com/countrycode.php3?lang=fr (links to
 regional code for some countries)
 
 and for regions in France :
 http://www.geneanet.com/genealogie/fr/countrycode/country/FRA
 
 In canada and Usa :
 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3699/gen_form.html
 
 So I come from France, Champagne (Aube). My code could begin like
 that :
 
 FRA.CHA.10
 
 I may also add the first letters of my town, or the postal code :
 Fra.Cha.10.Tro
 The problem is for huge town, with several abcusers. Why not
 adding the first letters of the name ? Fra.Cha.10.Tro.For
 But it's quite a long code.

Yes, it is. I like the anology with Usenet message-ids - a machine-name is
already unique across the internet, so why not use that ? And the only
other thing that's needed is a unique number (or other ID) for each tune
on that machine.

 Personally I don't think it's a good idea to use this code in the
 X: field, because some programs get upset with this (for example a
  %text is removed after saving tune if it is on the X: line in
 AbcMus).

I agree. Since already exists, inventing new uses for it is likely to
create conflict with existing software ...

   The Z: field is for the transcriver, so we ought to use
 it. In an other hand, increasing the X:number to a 8 number code
 could be a good idea, for identifing volumes, music style etc. in
 an abc collection. 

... and likewise with Z: - a magic word uniquely identifying a tune is
not the same thing as the name of the person who transcribed that tune.
And again likewise, inventing new meanings for an X: number is fine for
whoever invents (and implements) them, but strange things might happen
when it meets other peoples' software.


I dunno. Personally, since I need such a numbering scheme, I'm using a
%%ID: line, on the grounds that it won't conflict with any
accepted usages; and when I get that sorted out and it reaches my
web-collection I'll use another such '%%' line for the 'base' collection,
or maybe (probably) to form a URL. Such a scheme will never be more than
one person's particular addition unless the writers of the software in use
choose to incorporate it. Even then there's always the John Chambers
Case - people who read ABC directly and can't even be bothered to include
an X: line :- but we can't do anything about that :)

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Richard Robinson
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