subject:"\\\[AFMUG\\\] Shielded Cat6 connectors"

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Sterling Jacobson

I use Cat6 EZ-RJ45 stuff all the time.

This is what I ordered:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002PI85LQ/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00939KFOU/

I'm getting to the point where I can't see fine writing close, or wiring in 
semi-dark like I used to.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

My problem is I cannot see that well anymore.  I have to use a magnifying glass 
every time I terminate a cable.

-Original Message-
From: David Coudron
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Yes, these Platinum connectors are those.   We had used the Platinum Cat5e 
connectors and really like the push through feature.   The part number 
listed below is a Cat 6/6a design that also allows for this, but a different 
crimper is required.  That is the other part number.   We are pretty hopeful 
these work better than the loading bar and non push through design.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc.
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 
|  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Does anyone make CAT6 plugs where the wire goes clear through.  Cannot remember 
what that is called.

-Original Message-
From: David Coudron
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Funny, but this is the exact path we are following as well.   We tried the
Quiktrex connectors and they were  a disaster.   The loading bar is far too
messy to deal with in any where but a controlled environment.   Trying to
crimp at the top of a grainleg or tower, or even at the bottom in low lighting 
or tight spaces is very time consuming and fraught with errors.

We spoke with Platinum and have just ordered the following two parts:
100061C - New crimper with new die
202048J - New Cat6 ends that will accommodate Cat6a as I understand it.
These are not shielded ends, but from talking with Platinum, the same end will 
be available in shielded in a few weeks.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc.
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447
|  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Lol.  I had exactly the same discovery, opinion of the results and conversation 
with Shireen.  I'll look into the Platinum Tools.

Christopher Gray wrote:
> This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release 
> a new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm 
> expecting this is the way I'll be heading for Cat6 connections.
>
> The Shireen connectors you suggested will crimp with standard 
> crimpers, BUT, the shield will be crushed where a normal crimper would 
> set the strain relief (Shireen tells me this is fine, but it doesn't 
> look great).
>
>
>
> :)
>
> They are easy to get hold of in New Jersey.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com
> <mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>>
> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:25:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors
>
> > Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.
> >
> > On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> >> We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen
> Cat 6
> >> cable but they were a major pain to use. The wires had to be forced
> >> in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is
> to buy
> >> Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does
> anyone
> >> know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we
> use what
> >> we already have?
> >>
> >>
>
> https://www.streakwave.co

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Jason McKemie

I quit using those years ago, always had problems getting the tab to lock
into Canopy units. I'm not sure if that ever got resolved, but they're not
really worth the additional cost for me.

On Tuesday, June 27, 2017, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Does anyone make CAT6 plugs where the wire goes clear through.  Cannot
> remember what that is called.
>
> -Original Message- From: David Coudron
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:31 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors
>
> Funny, but this is the exact path we are following as well.   We tried the
> Quiktrex connectors and they were  a disaster.   The loading bar is far too
> messy to deal with in any where but a controlled environment.   Trying to
> crimp at the top of a grainleg or tower, or even at the bottom in low
> lighting or tight spaces is very time consuming and fraught with errors.
>
> We spoke with Platinum and have just ordered the following two parts:
> 100061C - New crimper with new die
> 202048J - New Cat6 ends that will accommodate Cat6a as I understand it.
> These are not shielded ends, but from talking with Platinum, the same end
> will be available in shielded in a few weeks.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Coudron
> david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474
>
> Advantenon, Inc.
> i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
> 55447 |  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local:
> 612-454-1545
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:49 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors
>
> Lol.  I had exactly the same discovery, opinion of the results and
> conversation with Shireen.  I'll look into the Platinum Tools.
>
> Christopher Gray wrote:
>
>> This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release
>> a new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm
>> expecting this is the way I'll be heading for Cat6 connections.
>>
>> The Shireen connectors you suggested will crimp with standard
>> crimpers, BUT, the shield will be crushed where a normal crimper would
>> set the strain relief (Shireen tells me this is fine, but it doesn't
>> look great).
>>
>>
>>
>> :)
>>
>> They are easy to get hold of in New Jersey.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
>> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> > From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com
>> <mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>>
>> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:25:53 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors
>>
>> > Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.
>> >
>> > On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> >> We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen
>> Cat 6
>> >> cable but they were a major pain to use. The wires had to be forced
>> >> in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is
>> to buy
>> >> Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does
>> anyone
>> >> know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we
>> use what
>> >> we already have?
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0
>>
>> <https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0>
>> >>
>> >> Jay Weekley wrote:
>> >>> Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM
>> >>> stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate
>> >>> interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a
>> >>> decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.
>> >>>
>> >>> David Coudron wrote:
>> >>>> We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are
>> >>>> using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where the
>> >>>> cabinets won't be on top of the tower.  For the on

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread David Coudron

We are struggling with the same issue.   We can do the push through Cat 5e 
connectors pretty quickly and with virtually no errors, even without the 
glasses.   However the Cat 6/6a connectors without the push through feature and 
with the loading bar were a nightmare.   Lots of cussing, lots of retries, lots 
of new ends needed and definitely needed the glasses/cheaters.   Once we found 
that Platinum had the push through on the non-shielded Cat 6/6a and was going 
to be hitting the street with the shielded soon, we made the decision to use 
non-shielded for now, and re-terminate when the shielded are ready.   Overall, 
we will spend significantly less time with that approach.  

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc.       
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447  | 
 www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

My problem is I cannot see that well anymore.  I have to use a magnifying glass 
every time I terminate a cable.

-Original Message-
From: David Coudron
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Yes, these Platinum connectors are those.   We had used the Platinum Cat5e 
connectors and really like the push through feature.   The part number 
listed below is a Cat 6/6a design that also allows for this, but a different 
crimper is required.  That is the other part number.   We are pretty hopeful 
these work better than the loading bar and non push through design.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc.
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 
|  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Does anyone make CAT6 plugs where the wire goes clear through.  Cannot remember 
what that is called.

-Original Message-
From: David Coudron
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Funny, but this is the exact path we are following as well.   We tried the
Quiktrex connectors and they were  a disaster.   The loading bar is far too
messy to deal with in any where but a controlled environment.   Trying to
crimp at the top of a grainleg or tower, or even at the bottom in low lighting 
or tight spaces is very time consuming and fraught with errors.

We spoke with Platinum and have just ordered the following two parts:
100061C - New crimper with new die
202048J - New Cat6 ends that will accommodate Cat6a as I understand it.
These are not shielded ends, but from talking with Platinum, the same end will 
be available in shielded in a few weeks.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc.
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447
|  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Lol.  I had exactly the same discovery, opinion of the results and conversation 
with Shireen.  I'll look into the Platinum Tools.

Christopher Gray wrote:
> This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release 
> a new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm 
> expecting this is the way I'll be heading for Cat6 connections.
>
> The Shireen connectors you suggested will crimp with standard 
> crimpers, BUT, the shield will be crushed where a normal crimper would 
> set the strain relief (Shireen tells me this is fine, but it doesn't 
> look great).
>
>
>
> :)
>
> They are easy to get hold of in New Jersey.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com
> <mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>>
> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:25:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors
>
> > Regular

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Chuck McCown

My problem is I cannot see that well anymore.  I have to use a magnifying 
glass every time I terminate a cable.

-Original Message- 
From: David Coudron

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Yes, these Platinum connectors are those.   We had used the Platinum Cat5e 
connectors and really like the push through feature.   The part number 
listed below is a Cat 6/6a design that also allows for this, but a different 
crimper is required.  That is the other part number.   We are pretty hopeful 
these work better than the loading bar and non push through design.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc.
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 
|  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Does anyone make CAT6 plugs where the wire goes clear through.  Cannot 
remember what that is called.

-Original Message-
From: David Coudron
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Funny, but this is the exact path we are following as well.   We tried the
Quiktrex connectors and they were  a disaster.   The loading bar is far too
messy to deal with in any where but a controlled environment.   Trying to
crimp at the top of a grainleg or tower, or even at the bottom in low 
lighting or tight spaces is very time consuming and fraught with errors.

We spoke with Platinum and have just ordered the following two parts:
100061C - New crimper with new die
202048J - New Cat6 ends that will accommodate Cat6a as I understand it.
These are not shielded ends, but from talking with Platinum, the same end 
will be available in shielded in a few weeks.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc.
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447
|  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Lol.  I had exactly the same discovery, opinion of the results and 
conversation with Shireen.  I'll look into the Platinum Tools.

Christopher Gray wrote:

This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release
a new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm
expecting this is the way I'll be heading for Cat6 connections.

The Shireen connectors you suggested will crimp with standard
crimpers, BUT, the shield will be crushed where a normal crimper would
set the strain relief (Shireen tells me this is fine, but it doesn't
look great).

:)

They are easy to get hold of in New Jersey.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com
<mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:25:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

> Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.
>
> On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen
Cat 6
>> cable but they were a major pain to use. The wires had to be forced
>> in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is
to buy
>> Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does
anyone
>> know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we
use what
>> we already have?
>>
>>

https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===
0

<https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0>
>>
>> Jay Weekley wrote:
>>> Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM
>>> stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate
>>> interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a
>>> decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.
>>>
>>> David Coudron wrote:
>>>> We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are
>>>> using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where the
>

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread David Coudron

Yes, these Platinum connectors are those.   We had used the Platinum Cat5e 
connectors and really like the push through feature.   The part number listed 
below is a Cat 6/6a design that also allows for this, but a different crimper 
is required.  That is the other part number.   We are pretty hopeful these work 
better than the loading bar and non push through design.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474
 
Advantenon, Inc.       
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447  | 
 www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545 



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Does anyone make CAT6 plugs where the wire goes clear through.  Cannot remember 
what that is called.

-Original Message-
From: David Coudron
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Funny, but this is the exact path we are following as well.   We tried the 
Quiktrex connectors and they were  a disaster.   The loading bar is far too 
messy to deal with in any where but a controlled environment.   Trying to 
crimp at the top of a grainleg or tower, or even at the bottom in low lighting 
or tight spaces is very time consuming and fraught with errors.

We spoke with Platinum and have just ordered the following two parts:
100061C - New crimper with new die
202048J - New Cat6 ends that will accommodate Cat6a as I understand it. 
These are not shielded ends, but from talking with Platinum, the same end will 
be available in shielded in a few weeks.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc.
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 
|  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Lol.  I had exactly the same discovery, opinion of the results and conversation 
with Shireen.  I'll look into the Platinum Tools.

Christopher Gray wrote:
> This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release 
> a new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm 
> expecting this is the way I'll be heading for Cat6 connections.
>
> The Shireen connectors you suggested will crimp with standard 
> crimpers, BUT, the shield will be crushed where a normal crimper would 
> set the strain relief (Shireen tells me this is fine, but it doesn't 
> look great).
>
>
>
> :)
>
> They are easy to get hold of in New Jersey.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com
> <mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>>
> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:25:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors
>
> > Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.
> >
> > On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> >> We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen
> Cat 6
> >> cable but they were a major pain to use. The wires had to be forced
> >> in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is
> to buy
> >> Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does
> anyone
> >> know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we
> use what
> >> we already have?
> >>
> >>
> 
> https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===
> 0
> 
> <https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0>
> >>
> >> Jay Weekley wrote:
> >>> Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM
> >>> stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate
> >>> interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a
> >>> decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.
> >>>
> >>> David Coudron wrote:
> >>>> We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are
> >>>&

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Chuck McCown

Does anyone make CAT6 plugs where the wire goes clear through.  Cannot 
remember what that is called.

-Original Message- 
From: David Coudron

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Funny, but this is the exact path we are following as well.   We tried the 
Quiktrex connectors and they were  a disaster.   The loading bar is far too 
messy to deal with in any where but a controlled environment.   Trying to 
crimp at the top of a grainleg or tower, or even at the bottom in low 
lighting or tight spaces is very time consuming and fraught with errors.

We spoke with Platinum and have just ordered the following two parts:
100061C - New crimper with new die
202048J - New Cat6 ends that will accommodate Cat6a as I understand it. 
These are not shielded ends, but from talking with Platinum, the same end 
will be available in shielded in a few weeks.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

Advantenon, Inc.
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 
|  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Lol.  I had exactly the same discovery, opinion of the results and 
conversation with Shireen.  I'll look into the Platinum Tools.

Christopher Gray wrote:

This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release
a new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm
expecting this is the way I'll be heading for Cat6 connections.

The Shireen connectors you suggested will crimp with standard
crimpers, BUT, the shield will be crushed where a normal crimper would
set the strain relief (Shireen tells me this is fine, but it doesn't
look great).

:)

They are easy to get hold of in New Jersey.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com
<mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:25:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

> Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.
>
> On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen
Cat 6
>> cable but they were a major pain to use. The wires had to be forced
>> in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is
to buy
>> Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does
anyone
>> know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we
use what
>> we already have?
>>
>>

https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0

<https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0>
>>
>> Jay Weekley wrote:
>>> Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM
>>> stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate
>>> interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a
>>> decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.
>>>
>>> David Coudron wrote:
>>>> We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are
>>>> using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where the
>>>> cabinets won't be on top of the tower.  For the ones that are
on top
>>>> of the tower we ordered pre-terminated cables.  Just too much
hassle
>>>> for the cost. For those where we had to run cable to the top we
>>>> ordered new quiktex ends since they use the regular old
crimpers. We
>>>> couldn't find any ends to work with our Ez rj45 crimper. We
will be
>>>> terminating those cables the next few days.
>>>>
>>>> We do have Mimosa equipment installed with Cat5e cable and it
works
>>>> fine now.  We initially had issues with the Ethernet ports
dropping
>>>> and replaced POEs and were considering recabling. However
fixing the
>>>> RF link interference issues and some firmware upgrades have
really
>>>> stabilized those Ethernet ports now.  We haven't had an Ethernet
>>>> port go down in 10 months since we did tha

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread David Coudron

Funny, but this is the exact path we are following as well.   We tried the 
Quiktrex connectors and they were  a disaster.   The loading bar is far too 
messy to deal with in any where but a controlled environment.   Trying to crimp 
at the top of a grainleg or tower, or even at the bottom in low lighting or 
tight spaces is very time consuming and fraught with errors.  

We spoke with Platinum and have just ordered the following two parts:
100061C - New crimper with new die
202048J - New Cat6 ends that will accommodate Cat6a as I understand it.   These 
are not shielded ends, but from talking with Platinum, the same end will be 
available in shielded in a few weeks.

Thanks,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474
 
Advantenon, Inc.       
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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

Lol.  I had exactly the same discovery, opinion of the results and conversation 
with Shireen.  I'll look into the Platinum Tools.

Christopher Gray wrote:
> This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release 
> a new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm 
> expecting this is the way I'll be heading for Cat6 connections.
>
> The Shireen connectors you suggested will crimp with standard 
> crimpers, BUT, the shield will be crushed where a normal crimper would 
> set the strain relief (Shireen tells me this is fine, but it doesn't 
> look great).
>
>
>
> :)
>
> They are easy to get hold of in New Jersey.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com
> <mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>>
> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:25:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors
>
> > Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.
> >
> > On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> >> We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen
> Cat 6
> >> cable but they were a major pain to use. The wires had to be forced
> >> in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is
> to buy
> >> Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does
> anyone
> >> know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we
> use what
> >> we already have?
> >>
> >>
> https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0
> <https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0>
> >>
> >> Jay Weekley wrote:
> >>> Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM
> >>> stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate
> >>> interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a
> >>> decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.
> >>>
> >>> David Coudron wrote:
> >>>> We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are
> >>>> using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where the
> >>>> cabinets won't be on top of the tower.  For the ones that are
> on top
> >>>> of the tower we ordered pre-terminated cables.  Just too much
> hassle
> >>>> for the cost. For those where we had to run cable to the top we
> >>>> ordered new quiktex ends since they use the regular old
> crimpers. We
> >>>> couldn't find any ends to work with our Ez rj45 crimper. We
> will be
> >>>> terminating those cables the next few days.
> >>>>
> >>>> We do have Mimosa equipment installed with Cat5e cable and it
> works
> >>>> fine now.  We initially had issues with the Ethernet ports
> dropping
> >>>> and replaced POEs and were considering recabling. However
> fixing the
> >>>> RF link interference issues and some firmware upgrades have
> rea

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Jay Weekley

Lol.  I had exactly the same discovery, opinion of the results and 
conversation with Shireen.  I'll look into the Platinum Tools.


Christopher Gray wrote:
This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release 
a new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm 
expecting this is the way I'll be heading for Cat6 connections.


The Shireen connectors you suggested will crimp with standard 
crimpers, BUT, the shield will be crushed where a normal crimper would 
set the strain relief (Shireen tells me this is fine, but it doesn't 
look great).




:)

They are easy to get hold of in New Jersey.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com
<mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:25:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

> Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.
>
> On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen
Cat 6
>> cable but they were a major pain to use. The wires had to be forced
>> in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is
to buy
>> Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does
anyone
>> know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we
use what
>> we already have?
>>
>>
https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0
<https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0>
>>
>> Jay Weekley wrote:
>>> Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM
>>> stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate
>>> interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a
>>> decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.
>>>
>>> David Coudron wrote:
>>>> We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are
>>>> using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where the
>>>> cabinets won't be on top of the tower.  For the ones that are
on top
>>>> of the tower we ordered pre-terminated cables.  Just too much
hassle
>>>> for the cost. For those where we had to run cable to the top we
>>>> ordered new quiktex ends since they use the regular old
crimpers. We
>>>> couldn't find any ends to work with our Ez rj45 crimper. We
will be
>>>> terminating those cables the next few days.
>>>>
>>>> We do have Mimosa equipment installed with Cat5e cable and it
works
>>>> fine now.  We initially had issues with the Ethernet ports
dropping
>>>> and replaced POEs and were considering recabling. However
fixing the
>>>> RF link interference issues and some firmware upgrades have
really
>>>> stabilized those Ethernet ports now.  We haven't had an Ethernet
>>>> port go down in 10 months since we did that work. (I am currently
>>>> knocking on wood. )
>>>>
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>>

>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Christopher Gray
>>>> <cg...@graytechsoftware.com <mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com>>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:20:38 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation
>>>> I bought some Shireen Cat6 to try. The OD of the insulation
on the
>>>> Shireen Cat6 (and other Cat6 cables I've found so far) make it
>>>> unusable with the EZ-RJ45 plugs. So, I ended up purchasing new
>>>> plugs, and should have purchased a new crimper.
>>>>
>>>> I later asked here about using Cat6 with Mimosa and got a fairly
>>>> resounding "Cat5e is enough" at the time. In the end, it
seemed like
>>>> a giant pain for any spot other than having great interference.
>>>>
&g

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Christopher Gray

This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release a
new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm
expecting this is the way I'll be heading for Cat6 connections.

The Shireen connectors you suggested will crimp with standard crimpers,
BUT, the shield will be crushed where a normal crimper would set the strain
relief (Shireen tells me this is fine, but it doesn't look great).


>
> :)
>
> They are easy to get hold of in New Jersey.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com>
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:25:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors
>
> > Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.
> >
> > On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> >> We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen Cat 6
> >> cable but they were a major pain to use.  The wires had to be forced
> >> in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is to buy
> >> Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does anyone
> >> know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we use what
> >> we already have?
> >>
> >> https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0
> >>
> >> Jay Weekley wrote:
> >>> Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM
> >>> stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate
> >>> interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a
> >>> decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.
> >>>
> >>> David Coudron wrote:
> >>>> We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are
> >>>> using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where the
> >>>> cabinets won't be on top of the tower.  For the ones that are on top
> >>>> of the tower we ordered pre-terminated cables.  Just too much hassle
> >>>> for the cost. For those where we had to run cable to the top we
> >>>> ordered new quiktex ends since they use the regular old crimpers. We
> >>>> couldn't find any ends to work with our Ez rj45 crimper. We will be
> >>>> terminating those cables the next few days.
> >>>>
> >>>> We do have Mimosa equipment installed with Cat5e cable and it works
> >>>> fine now.  We initially had issues with the Ethernet ports dropping
> >>>> and replaced POEs and were considering recabling. However fixing the
> >>>> RF link interference issues and some firmware upgrades have really
> >>>> stabilized those Ethernet ports now.  We haven't had an Ethernet
> >>>> port go down in 10 months since we did that work. (I am currently
> >>>> knocking on wood. )
> >>>>
> >>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> >>>> 
> 
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Christopher Gray
> >>>> <cg...@graytechsoftware.com>
> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:20:38 AM
> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation
> >>>> I bought some Shireen Cat6 to try. The OD of the insulation on the
> >>>> Shireen Cat6 (and other Cat6 cables I've found so far) make it
> >>>> unusable with the EZ-RJ45 plugs. So, I ended up purchasing new
> >>>> plugs, and should have purchased a new crimper.
> >>>>
> >>>> I later asked here about using Cat6 with Mimosa and got a fairly
> >>>> resounding "Cat5e is enough" at the time. In the end, it seemed like
> >>>> a giant pain for any spot other than having great interference.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Jay Weekley
> >>>> <par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> We recently received a recommendation from Mimosa to replace our
> >>>> shielded Cat 5 with Cat6.  We've been using Shireen lately and
> >>>> they have a Cat 6 product. What would you use?  Has anyone had
> >>>> problems with using Cat 5 with Mimosa?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

May I suggest that you talk to the Shireen folks directly and they will give 
you the exact info you need.

:)

They are easy to get hold of in New Jersey.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:25:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

> Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.
> 
> On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen Cat 6
>> cable but they were a major pain to use.  The wires had to be forced
>> in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is to buy
>> Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does anyone
>> know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we use what
>> we already have?
>>
>> https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0
>>
>> Jay Weekley wrote:
>>> Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM
>>> stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate
>>> interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a
>>> decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.
>>>
>>> David Coudron wrote:
>>>> We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are
>>>> using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where the
>>>> cabinets won't be on top of the tower.  For the ones that are on top
>>>> of the tower we ordered pre-terminated cables.  Just too much hassle
>>>> for the cost. For those where we had to run cable to the top we
>>>> ordered new quiktex ends since they use the regular old crimpers. We
>>>> couldn't find any ends to work with our Ez rj45 crimper. We will be
>>>> terminating those cables the next few days.
>>>>
>>>> We do have Mimosa equipment installed with Cat5e cable and it works
>>>> fine now.  We initially had issues with the Ethernet ports dropping
>>>> and replaced POEs and were considering recabling. However fixing the
>>>> RF link interference issues and some firmware upgrades have really
>>>> stabilized those Ethernet ports now.  We haven't had an Ethernet
>>>> port go down in 10 months since we did that work. (I am currently
>>>> knocking on wood. )
>>>>
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Christopher Gray
>>>> <cg...@graytechsoftware.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:20:38 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation
>>>> I bought some Shireen Cat6 to try. The OD of the insulation on the
>>>> Shireen Cat6 (and other Cat6 cables I've found so far) make it
>>>> unusable with the EZ-RJ45 plugs. So, I ended up purchasing new
>>>> plugs, and should have purchased a new crimper.
>>>>
>>>> I later asked here about using Cat6 with Mimosa and got a fairly
>>>> resounding "Cat5e is enough" at the time. In the end, it seemed like
>>>> a giant pain for any spot other than having great interference.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Jay Weekley
>>>> <par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We recently received a recommendation from Mimosa to replace our
>>>> shielded Cat 5 with Cat6.  We've been using Shireen lately and
>>>> they have a Cat 6 product. What would you use?  Has anyone had
>>>> problems with using Cat 5 with Mimosa?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-12 Thread Jay Weekley


You used the Shireen Cat 6 heads?

Jerry Head wrote:

Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.

On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen Cat 6 
cable but they were a major pain to use.  The wires had to be forced 
in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is to buy 
Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does 
anyone know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we 
use what we already have?


https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0

Jay Weekley wrote:
Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM 
stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate 
interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a 
decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.


David Coudron wrote:
We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are 
using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where the 
cabinets won't be on top of the tower.  For the ones that are on 
top of the tower we ordered pre-terminated cables.  Just too much 
hassle for the cost. For those where we had to run cable to the top 
we ordered new quiktex ends since they use the regular old 
crimpers. We couldn't find any ends to work with our Ez rj45 
crimper. We will be terminating those cables the next few days.


We do have Mimosa equipment installed with Cat5e cable and it works 
fine now.  We initially had issues with the Ethernet ports dropping 
and replaced POEs and were considering recabling. However fixing 
the RF link interference issues and some firmware upgrades have 
really stabilized those Ethernet ports now.  We haven't had an 
Ethernet port go down in 10 months since we did that work. (I am 
currently knocking on wood. )


Get Outlook for iOS 
 

*From:* Af  on behalf of Christopher Gray 


*Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:20:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation
I bought some Shireen Cat6 to try. The OD of the insulation on the 
Shireen Cat6 (and other Cat6 cables I've found so far) make it 
unusable with the EZ-RJ45 plugs. So, I ended up purchasing new 
plugs, and should have purchased a new crimper.


I later asked here about using Cat6 with Mimosa and got a fairly 
resounding "Cat5e is enough" at the time. In the end, it seemed 
like a giant pain for any spot other than having great interference.




On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:


We recently received a recommendation from Mimosa to replace our
shielded Cat 5 with Cat6.  We've been using Shireen lately and
they have a Cat 6 product. What would you use?  Has anyone had
problems with using Cat 5 with Mimosa?



 
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Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-12 Thread Jerry Head


Regular crimpers worked for us on these heads.

On 6/12/2017 2:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen Cat 6 
cable but they were a major pain to use.  The wires had to be forced 
in instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is to buy 
Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does anyone 
know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we use what 
we already have?


https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=CON-RJ45-C6-100===0

Jay Weekley wrote:
Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM 
stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate 
interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a 
decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.


David Coudron wrote:
We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are 
using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where the 
cabinets won't be on top of the tower.  For the ones that are on top 
of the tower we ordered pre-terminated cables.  Just too much hassle 
for the cost. For those where we had to run cable to the top we 
ordered new quiktex ends since they use the regular old crimpers. We 
couldn't find any ends to work with our Ez rj45 crimper. We will be 
terminating those cables the next few days.


We do have Mimosa equipment installed with Cat5e cable and it works 
fine now.  We initially had issues with the Ethernet ports dropping 
and replaced POEs and were considering recabling. However fixing the 
RF link interference issues and some firmware upgrades have really 
stabilized those Ethernet ports now.  We haven't had an Ethernet 
port go down in 10 months since we did that work. (I am currently 
knocking on wood. )


Get Outlook for iOS 
 

*From:* Af  on behalf of Christopher Gray 


*Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:20:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation
I bought some Shireen Cat6 to try. The OD of the insulation on the 
Shireen Cat6 (and other Cat6 cables I've found so far) make it 
unusable with the EZ-RJ45 plugs. So, I ended up purchasing new 
plugs, and should have purchased a new crimper.


I later asked here about using Cat6 with Mimosa and got a fairly 
resounding "Cat5e is enough" at the time. In the end, it seemed like 
a giant pain for any spot other than having great interference.




On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:


We recently received a recommendation from Mimosa to replace our
shielded Cat 5 with Cat6.  We've been using Shireen lately and
they have a Cat 6 product. What would you use?  Has anyone had
problems with using Cat 5 with Mimosa?



 
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Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-12 Thread Jay Weekley

We bought some ARC wireless Cat 6 connectors to go onto Shireen Cat 6 
cable but they were a major pain to use.  The wires had to be forced in 
instead of sliding in with minimal effort.  My idea now is to buy 
Shireen Cat 6 connectors which hopefully will work better. Does anyone 
know if these connectors require a special crimper or can we use what we 
already have?


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Jay Weekley wrote:
Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM 
stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate 
interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a 
decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.


David Coudron wrote:
We are just starting to install a number of towers where we are using 
Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where the cabinets 
won't be on top of the tower.  For the ones that are on top of the 
tower we ordered pre-terminated cables.  Just too much hassle for the 
cost. For those where we had to run cable to the top we ordered new 
quiktex ends since they use the regular old crimpers. We couldn't 
find any ends to work with our Ez rj45 crimper. We will be 
terminating those cables the next few days.


We do have Mimosa equipment installed with Cat5e cable and it works 
fine now.  We initially had issues with the Ethernet ports dropping 
and replaced POEs and were considering recabling. However fixing the 
RF link interference issues and some firmware upgrades have really 
stabilized those Ethernet ports now.  We haven't had an Ethernet port 
go down in 10 months since we did that work. (I am currently knocking 
on wood. )


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I bought some Shireen Cat6 to try. The OD of the insulation on the 
Shireen Cat6 (and other Cat6 cables I've found so far) make it 
unusable with the EZ-RJ45 plugs. So, I ended up purchasing new plugs, 
and should have purchased a new crimper.


I later asked here about using Cat6 with Mimosa and got a fairly 
resounding "Cat5e is enough" at the time. In the end, it seemed like 
a giant pain for any spot other than having great interference.




On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:


We recently received a recommendation from Mimosa to replace our
shielded Cat 5 with Cat6.  We've been using Shireen lately and
they have a Cat 6 product. What would you use?  Has anyone had
problems with using Cat 5 with Mimosa?



 
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