Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] The End of Sets

2022-03-24 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 3/24/22 12:49, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
> This should specify the order of the repeals – repealing two rules
> without specifying the order doesn't work. (This is an important
> mechanic, both for working out the resulting gamestate in cases where
> it matters, and for catching accidental breakage that might repeal much
> of the ruleset simultaneously.)
True, this part is fixed in the upcoming revision thanks to some discord
feedback.
> I plan to vote against this proposal regardless, though; not only do I
> think the Set economy is still functional, I'm very wary of proposals
> to repeal the economy without putting a lot of thought into a viable
> replacement. Historically, attempts to repeal the economy without
> replacing it tend to cause Agora to fall into a multiple-month slump
> (and we already just repealed Glitter).
I think most people agree with the wariness overall. My thoughts are
that this still leaves boatloads and stones, and there's 2 or 3
promising economic proposals floating around on list and in discord. At
some point Sets has to move before those things happen.

I also have a small economic proposal planned for later.

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nix
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DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] The End of Sets

2022-03-24 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Thu, 2022-03-24 at 16:21 +, nix via agora-business wrote:
> Add a new P=3 rule titled "The Winds Die Down" with the following
> text:
> 
>  When the winds die down repeal R2620 "Cards & Sets", R2623 "Popular
>  Proposal Proposer Privilege", R2629 "Victory Auctions", R2624 "Card
>  Administration", R2622 "Pending Proposals", R2651 "Proposal
>  Recycling", and R2653 "Buying Strength".
> 
>  When the winds die down, remove all text inbetween ~~ (including the
>  ~s) from all rules.
> 
>  When the winds die down, repeal this rule.

This should specify the order of the repeals – repealing two rules
without specifying the order doesn't work. (This is an important
mechanic, both for working out the resulting gamestate in cases where
it matters, and for catching accidental breakage that might repeal much
of the ruleset simultaneously.)

I plan to vote against this proposal regardless, though; not only do I
think the Set economy is still functional, I'm very wary of proposals
to repeal the economy without putting a lot of thought into a viable
replacement. Historically, attempts to repeal the economy without
replacing it tend to cause Agora to fall into a multiple-month slump
(and we already just repealed Glitter).

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ais523