Re: Backup and recovery CD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Schwarz wanted us to know: >> A number of commercial backup vendors ship bootable CDs with a copy of their >> backup application installed. You can use these CDs to restore a system that >One of my colleagues has built a bootable rescue CD based on the Knoppix >Gnu/Linux distribution (see www.knoppix.net if you don't know Knoppix). You forgot the URL :-D - -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | I vowed revenge on the soul | | http://www.mrball.net | of Bingbong. | | http://faq.mrball.net |Doug Glanville on espn.go.com | Linux kernel 2.4.19-16mdk 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE+XD76IBT1264ScBURAtA0AJ9vxsej6QX4k67Z0FmxbPuXqX1PxgCfUvOP zzbEbRzcLe6rtaI9EJzdo40= =7CNy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Backup and recovery CD
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:32:54PM +0100, Martin Schwarz enlightened us: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 12:29:17PM -0500, Kevin M. Myer wrote: > > A number of commercial backup vendors ship bootable CDs with a copy of their > > backup application installed. You can use these CDs to restore a system that > > was totally toasted, due to massive disk failure, being hacked, etc. I'm > > wondering if anyone has ever developed something similar for AMANDA. > > One of my colleagues has built a bootable rescue CD based on the Knoppix > Gnu/Linux distribution (see www.knoppix.net if you don't know Knoppix). > His CD includes an amanda client besides our usual tools and goodies. I > have just recently used this CD to clone two of our machines, testing > the disaster recovery in case of a complate hard disk failure. Any chance we might be able to download said CD anywhere? I've not played with Knoppix, so I don't know how easy it is to add software to the disk... Matt -- Matt Hyclak Department of Mathematics Ohio University (740) 593-1263 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Original Message Subject: Re: Backup and recovery CD Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:08:05 -0600 From: Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kevin M. Myer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Kevin, I just recently developed a system to do a "bare-metal" recovery. For my linux servers I've been using "zipslack" a 100MB distribution of slackware linux. I have it boot from a floppy and mount a parallel port zip drive a "/". You can add any slackware package to it (ie dump, amrestore, etc...). I like it better than a CD because I can put info about the disk partitions of each of my servers right on the restore media. I don't have to have and amanda client on the disk. I ssh to the backup servers to extract the dump image and pipe it to the local resort program. I've setup web-cluster using this as well as doing a restore. check it out at http://www.slackware.com/zipslack/ good luck, chrisj Kevin M. Myer wrote: A number of commercial backup vendors ship bootable CDs with a copy of their backup application installed. You can use these CDs to restore a system that was totally toasted, due to massive disk failure, being hacked, etc. I'm wondering if anyone has ever developed something similar for AMANDA. I'm envisioning something like the Red Hat installer, which boots up, lets you drop into a limited shell and lets you partition disks. The AMANDA bootable CD would boot up, let you format disks and give you a limited shell, and then let you run amrestore by connecting to the tape drive (or whatever archival media you are using) of your remote backup server. Just curious if anyone has ever gone down this road and if so, how far did you get? Thanks, Kevin
ndmp and amanda
Our site is installing a Network Appliance in the next month or so. We currently use amanda to backup our linux file servers. The NetAp guys tell us they think ndmp was getting rolled into amanda but I don't see anything in a brief search. Is anyone using amanda and ndmp? -- George Kelbley System Support Group Computer Science Department University of New Mexico 505-277-6502Fax: 505-277-6927
Re: Backup and recovery CD
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 12:29:17PM -0500, Kevin M. Myer wrote: > A number of commercial backup vendors ship bootable CDs with a copy of their > backup application installed. You can use these CDs to restore a system that > was totally toasted, due to massive disk failure, being hacked, etc. I'm > wondering if anyone has ever developed something similar for AMANDA. One of my colleagues has built a bootable rescue CD based on the Knoppix Gnu/Linux distribution (see www.knoppix.net if you don't know Knoppix). His CD includes an amanda client besides our usual tools and goodies. I have just recently used this CD to clone two of our machines, testing the disaster recovery in case of a complate hard disk failure. Steps are: - booting from the rescue CD - setting up networking and starting sshd to be able to work comfortably from my workstation ;-) - partitioning the hard disk, setting up swap, creating file systems - mounting the root partition somewhere like /mnt/target - recovering the root partition using amrecover via the network - mounting the remaining partitions into the recovered root partition's mount points - recovering the remaining partitions - setting up tmp on the target partition (since /tmp is normally excluded from our backups), giving it the correct permissions - chrooting into /mnt/target and making the system bootable (quite easy with grub) - rebooting and testing the system. Works great if the new machine is identical to the old one. In my case, I ran into a (small) problem because the clone machines were only Pentium I while the original machine's kernel was built for Pentium II and higher. However, since Knoppix (and thus my colleagues's rescue CD) are based on Debian, "apt-get install"-ing an appropriate kernel wasn't very hard :-) The most tedious part of this procedure was changing the tapes (only a single DLT drive here). I should really take a look at the file: driver some time... Bye, Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] toplink-plannet GmbH Network Operations EngineerSchönfeldstraße 8 Tel +49 [0] 721 6636-0 D-76131 Karlsruhe Fax +49 [0] 721 6636-199 http://www.toplink-plannet.de/
Re: results missing
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 at 6:47pm, Konrad Dienst wrote > FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY: > altair.wir aacd0s1f RESULTS MISSING *snip* > HOSTNAME DISKL ORIG-KB OUT-KB COMP% MMM:SS KB/s MMM:SS KB/s > -- - > altair.wirec aacd0s1f MISSING -- > > (brought to you by Amanda version 2.4.3) To really be able to look this, we'll need to know the client OS and see the contents of /tmp/amanda/amandad*debug (and /tmp/amanda/sendsize*debug and /tmp/amanda/sendbackup*debug if they exist) on the client. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
Re: Backup and recovery CD
For restoring linux based systems, I imagine that almost everything is already there on the KNOPPIX CD (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/). You could boot from that (it would probably recognize some but not all hardware, test with your own), then you could compile and install amanda (with the correct configure options) and reconnect over the network to the backup copies of your indices. steven On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Kevin M. Myer wrote: > A number of commercial backup vendors ship bootable CDs with a copy of their > backup application installed. You can use these CDs to restore a system that > was totally toasted, due to massive disk failure, being hacked, etc. I'm > wondering if anyone has ever developed something similar for AMANDA. I'm > envisioning something like the Red Hat installer, which boots up, lets you drop > into a limited shell and lets you partition disks. The AMANDA bootable CD would > boot up, let you format disks and give you a limited shell, and then let you run > amrestore by connecting to the tape drive (or whatever archival media you are > using) of your remote backup server. >
Re: Help getting tape changer to work on Solaris 2.8
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 05:35:08PM -, APR Technical Support wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to set up amanda, struggling a bit. > (My fault, I suspect, nothing to do with the software!) > > Here's the current error :- > > $amtape Daily reset > amtape: no tpchanger specified in "/usr/local/etc/amanda/Daily/amanda.conf" > $ > > Here is the relevant section of the amanda.conf file :- > > #runtapes 1# number of tapes to be used in a single > run of amdump > #tpchanger "chg-manual"# the tape-changer glue script > tapedev "/dev/rmt/1n"# the no-rewind tape device to be used > #rawtapedev "/dev/null"# the raw device to be used (ftape only) > changerfile "/usr/local/share/amanda/Daily/chg-multi.conf" > #changerfile "/usr/adm/amanda/DailySet1/changer-status" > #changerfile "/usr/local/etc/amanda/DailySet1/changer.conf" > #changerdev "/dev/null" > > Assuming that I need to uncomment the tpchanger line, what should I point it > at? > Am I right customising and using chg-multi.conf? > > Any thoughts/guidance appreciated. Thought 1, its good to specify which amanda version you are using. Thought 2. you did not say if you had a changer, make, model, /dev entry. if not, you needn't use any changer entries Thought 3. you have changerfile set to chg-multi. that would suggest your tpchanger should also be chg-multi Thought 4. for my Solaris system and drive chg-mtx worked fine. others have used chg-zd-mtx (note you will have to obtain and install mtx). still others have configured the "sgen" (generic scsi?) driver and used chg-scsi, or the chg-mtx's Thought 5. /dev/rmt/1n ? Do you have another tape drive at 0? Thought 6. the device /dev/rmt/1n is choosing the "default" density and/or compression for your tape drive. if that is what you want, fine, otherwise check into 1ln, 1mn, ... -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
results missing
Hi! does anybody know, what this is supposed to mean? (amcheck doesn't come up with any errors) Subject: test AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR BogusMonth 0, 0 *** THE DUMPS DID NOT FINISH PROPERLY! The next tape Amanda expects to use is: a new tape. FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY: altair.wir aacd0s1f RESULTS MISSING STATISTICS: Total Full Daily Estimate Time (hrs:min)0:00 Run Time (hrs:min) 0:00 Dump Time (hrs:min)0:00 0:00 0:00 Output Size (meg) 0.00.00.0 Original Size (meg) 0.00.00.0 Avg Compressed Size (%) -- -- -- Filesystems Dumped0 0 0 Avg Dump Rate (k/s) -- -- -- Tape Time (hrs:min)0:00 0:00 0:00 Tape Size (meg) 0.00.00.0 Tape Used (%) 0.00.00.0 Filesystems Taped 0 0 0 Avg Tp Write Rate (k/s) -- -- -- ^L DUMP SUMMARY: DUMPER STATSTAPER STATS HOSTNAME DISKL ORIG-KB OUT-KB COMP% MMM:SS KB/s MMM:SS KB/s -- - altair.wirec aacd0s1f MISSING -- (brought to you by Amanda version 2.4.3)
Help getting tape changer to work on Solaris 2.8
Hi I'm trying to set up amanda, struggling a bit. (My fault, I suspect, nothing to do with the software!) Here's the current error :- $amtape Daily reset amtape: no tpchanger specified in "/usr/local/etc/amanda/Daily/amanda.conf" $ Here is the relevant section of the amanda.conf file :- #runtapes 1# number of tapes to be used in a single run of amdump #tpchanger "chg-manual"# the tape-changer glue script tapedev "/dev/rmt/1n"# the no-rewind tape device to be used #rawtapedev "/dev/null"# the raw device to be used (ftape only) changerfile "/usr/local/share/amanda/Daily/chg-multi.conf" #changerfile "/usr/adm/amanda/DailySet1/changer-status" #changerfile "/usr/local/etc/amanda/DailySet1/changer.conf" #changerdev "/dev/null" Assuming that I need to uncomment the tpchanger line, what should I point it at? Am I right customising and using chg-multi.conf? Any thoughts/guidance appreciated. Cheers Nigel Barker - Technical Support Engineer - Cambridge, UK Applied Psychology Research http://www.youmeus.com
Backup and recovery CD
A number of commercial backup vendors ship bootable CDs with a copy of their backup application installed. You can use these CDs to restore a system that was totally toasted, due to massive disk failure, being hacked, etc. I'm wondering if anyone has ever developed something similar for AMANDA. I'm envisioning something like the Red Hat installer, which boots up, lets you drop into a limited shell and lets you partition disks. The AMANDA bootable CD would boot up, let you format disks and give you a limited shell, and then let you run amrestore by connecting to the tape drive (or whatever archival media you are using) of your remote backup server. Just curious if anyone has ever gone down this road and if so, how far did you get? Thanks, Kevin -- Kevin M. Myer Systems Administrator Lancaster-Lebanon Intermediate Unit 13 (717) 560-6140
Re: Q: simple but how ?
Hi! > define tapetype DDS-4-40{ > comment "DDS-4 PowerVault with compression" > DDS-4-20 > length 4 mbytes > } This length number is probably too optimistic. This assumes that your data compresses with a 2:1 ratio, which is rarely seen in real life. FWIW, here's my tapetype with DDS4 drive using hardware compression: define tapetype DDS4 { comment "DDS4 using hardware compression" length 25000 Mbytes filemark 0 Kbytes speed 2816 Kbytes } The length number is really just a guess (I think I underestimate the compression a little, but since I only have 10 GB of data this is not an issue for me right now). The speed number is taken from "avg tp write rate" as reported by Amanda's nightly run. -- Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * One way to be happy ever after is not to be after too much.
Re: Q: simple but how ?
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 03:05:24PM +0100, Ra?l Wild-Spain wrote: > Hi! I've installed in my debian the amanda system. Thank's to amcheck it seems my > config is ok, but I've some doubts and questions (it's no clear for me). > > 1) My tape is a PowerVault (the server is a dell poweredge 4400) and I make use of > dds4 tapes ( 40gb ). I've typed the following descriptors in my amanda.conf: > > define tapetype DDS-4-20{ > comment "DDS-4 PowerVault without compression" > length 2 mbytes > filemark 65 kbytes > speed 1255 kps > } > > define tapetype DDS-4-40{ > comment "DDS-4 PowerVault with compression" Is this hardware compression? If using software compression, the capacity is still to be listed as ~20GB. > DDS-4-20 I know dumptypes can include other dumptypes, but can tapetypes do so also. Besides, the speed would differ for HW compression on and off. Then again, the speed value is unused, so what's it matter :) I don't know if filemark size would change. > length 4 mbytes > } > > Then my tapetype var is: tapetype DDS-4-40 > > Do I suppose this will work properly? Have anyone experience with DDS-4 tapes and > amanda? Lots of people. > 2) I still haven't the tapes (quantity) , but I must demonstrate to my "boss" that > amanda works and will work. Then, I've only 2 tapes dds4 and I thinked the following: > > - doing a full backup every week (on friday night) ( simple ;-) ). > > I've labeled the tapes ( tape01, tape02) and I would like to configure my > amanda.conf to this way. (the first week amanda demands to me tape01 .. the next > week tape02 ... 01 ... 02 .. ) > > I've tried to configure my amanda.conf but I'm not sure it's ok. I've the following: > > dumpcycle 0 > runspercycle 2 Can you fit two runs into a zero size cycle? I think the runspercycle is meaningless for dumpcycle 0. But two seems silly. > tapecycle 2 tapes > runtapes 1 > > tapetype DDS-4-40 > ... etc > > and my crontab.amanda runs amdump every friday night. > > Is this ok? I must to change anything? > That is going to take a long time to convince your boss that amanda is working. One run/week? For testing/demo, why not run it nightly or business nightly? -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
Re: SUN StorEDGE L400 2 tape, 8mm drives
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 08:56:00AM -0500, Julie Hughes wrote: > I've searched for items on tape libraries like the L400 and similar, but haven't > come up with good results. I'd really like to try Amanda, but Im getting frustrated > and feeling a bit stupid. It seems rather difficult to find easy installation > notes for my situation. > > I have an SUN StorEDGE L400 Autoloader (SCSI) with 10 slots and two tape drives. > It uses Exabyte 8mm, 170m tapes. I'll be running the backup software on Solaris 8. > > Are there any newbie friendly notes to help set up Amanda to work with this type or > similar type of tape library. > > I can't be the only one who has one of these things. > > What driver is best to use for controlling this kind of drive? mtx > > Does anyone have a similar tape library configuration file they could share?? > > I hate that this library is sitting here unused. Thanks for any help offered. > I believe you have two options. View the device as two separate devices each with dedicated slots (say 1-5 and 6-10) then run two separate amanda configs and amdumps. With this option you have to be sure that each amanda config accesses different client hosts if the amdumps are to run concurrently. The other possibility is to use the RAIT ?driver? to stripe a backup across the two drives. Then the library will look like a 5 slot changer with a double capacity and speed drive. jl -- Jon H. LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG Computing 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159 Princeton, NJ 08540-4322 (609) 683-7220 (fax)
Re: downgrading
Well, I ran 2.4.4b1 for a few cycles. The results are mixed. On some runs, I can read all the tapes fine, including file marker 1. On other runs I get the same problems with the same messages in the logs. I've put the cleaning tape in and still no go... robin On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: > > Would 2.4.4p1 actually help? > > > > I am going to try tarring to a blank tape manually and see what happens. > > This will answer the question regarding 2.4.4b1. Make sure to tar > multiple times. > >
Re: question about blocksize and tape buffers
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 at 4:07pm, Mike Simpson wrote > My question is this: given the better performance under the higher > blocksizes, would increasing the buffer size from 32k up to something > like 128k give me better performance? Can I obtain the same objective > (keeping the drive streaming) by just increasing "tapebufs" to some > fairly large number? I've got a library with an AIT3 under Linux as well, and what I do is 'mt setblk 0', which sets it to variable block size. In last night's backup, I see speeds up to 11629.8 KB/s (as reported by amanda-2.4.4b1). -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
Q: simple but how?
Hi! I've installed in my debian the amanda system. Thank's to amcheck it seems my config is ok, but I've some doubts and questions (it's no clear for me). 1) My tape is a PowerVault (the server is a dell poweredge 4400) and I make use of dds4 tapes ( 40gb ). I've typed the following descriptors in my amanda.conf: define tapetype DDS-4-20{ comment "DDS-4 PowerVault without compression" length 2 mbytes filemark 65 kbytes speed 1255 kps } define tapetype DDS-4-40{ comment "DDS-4 PowerVault with compression" DDS-4-20 length 4 mbytes } Then my tapetype var is: tapetype DDS-4-40 Do I suppose this will work properly? Have anyone experience with DDS-4 tapes and amanda? 2) I still haven't the tapes (quantity) , but I must demonstrate to my "boss" that amanda works and will work. Then, I've only 2 tapes dds4 and I thinked the following: - doing a full backup every week (on friday night) ( simple ;-) ). I've labeled the tapes ( tape01, tape02) and I would like to configure my amanda.conf to this way. (the first week amanda demands to me tape01 .. the next week tape02 ... 01 ... 02 .. ) I've tried to configure my amanda.conf but I'm not sure it's ok. I've the following: dumpcycle 0 runspercycle 2 tapecycle 2 tapes runtapes 1 tapetype DDS-4-40 ... etc and my crontab.amanda runs amdump every friday night. Is this ok? I must to change anything? Best regards, Raúl Cruz Carmona [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Q: simple but how ?
Hi! I've installed in my debian the amanda system. Thank's to amcheck it seems my config is ok, but I've some doubts and questions (it's no clear for me). 1) My tape is a PowerVault (the server is a dell poweredge 4400) and I make use of dds4 tapes ( 40gb ). I've typed the following descriptors in my amanda.conf: define tapetype DDS-4-20{ comment "DDS-4 PowerVault without compression" length 2 mbytes filemark 65 kbytes speed 1255 kps } define tapetype DDS-4-40{ comment "DDS-4 PowerVault with compression" DDS-4-20 length 4 mbytes } Then my tapetype var is: tapetype DDS-4-40 Do I suppose this will work properly? Have anyone experience with DDS-4 tapes and amanda? 2) I still haven't the tapes (quantity) , but I must demonstrate to my "boss" that amanda works and will work. Then, I've only 2 tapes dds4 and I thinked the following: - doing a full backup every week (on friday night) ( simple ;-) ). I've labeled the tapes ( tape01, tape02) and I would like to configure my amanda.conf to this way. (the first week amanda demands to me tape01 .. the next week tape02 ... 01 ... 02 .. ) I've tried to configure my amanda.conf but I'm not sure it's ok. I've the following: dumpcycle 0 runspercycle 2 tapecycle 2 tapes runtapes 1 tapetype DDS-4-40 ... etc and my crontab.amanda runs amdump every friday night. Is this ok? I must to change anything? Best regards, Raúl Cruz Carmona [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SUN StorEDGE L400 2 tape, 8mm drives
I've searched for items on tape libraries like the L400 and similar, but haven't come up with good results. I'd really like to try Amanda, but Im getting frustrated and feeling a bit stupid. It seems rather difficult to find easy installation notes for my situation. I have an SUN StorEDGE L400 Autoloader (SCSI) with 10 slots and two tape drives. It uses Exabyte 8mm, 170m tapes. I'll be running the backup software on Solaris 8. Are there any newbie friendly notes to help set up Amanda to work with this type or similar type of tape library. I can't be the only one who has one of these things. What driver is best to use for controlling this kind of drive? mtx Does anyone have a similar tape library configuration file they could share?? I hate that this library is sitting here unused. Thanks for any help offered. Julie