Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready?
Calling CQ on a clear frequency for your class of license is probably the best source of action. The band isn't that big to tune around for contacts, and, if tuning around for contacts and/or calling CQ seems to cause you dismay, maybe you need to get on "channel radio" and leave the real radio operating to amateurs who have a tuning knob on their receivers and a VFO for their transmitters. Pete, wa2cwa __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready?
I was not going to waste my time with a reply to this silly thread, but I'm at work and not much else to do so here it goes. This hole thing got started because some silly extra starting using 7.160 not THINKING that he was cutting out a bunch of other guys with general class tickets, that's it. As far as upgrading from General, as it already been said. The class of ticket you hold has nothing to do with how much you know or how good an op you are. I know many extras that could not twist to hunks of wire together, and many more who are poor op's. As far as someone said, I listened up and down the band and heard nothing, try speaking the words CQ into your mike and then listening, all of a sudden there will AM activity on the band. Dave W9WRL.com a lowly General Tom Chesek wrote: > Al, > > I think that most Hams realize that the knowledge gained by advancing to > Extra has nothing technical to do with the band priviledges you gain by > advancing. You need no additional skills to be on the extra portions of the > bands than what you already have for General. If you have the ability to > memorize then go ahead and do it and then have use of those additional > frequencies. I was not in the hobby when the incentive licensing was put > into place but the government should have licenses and tests based on > technical needs, not on enticing you with greater band priviledges. But...it > is what it is and you have to play the game. > > Tom K3TVC > > > - Original Message - > From: "Al Perkins" > To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" > > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing > offalready? > > > > Gentlemen: As in every aspect of life we go as far as we can and as far as > our understanding will take us. I for one have fought higher math and > "Theroy" all my life and it does not click. So, I will be the best General > operator I can be. I can probably shot better than most and survive in a > hostile environment better than most but I cannot understand and fathom > theory. > > Yes I could memorize the test but, I still would not be any more qualified > than I am right now. We need to compromize and keep the hobby alive and work > "All" licensed hams. > > > > Al Perkins 1SG RET. > KA1KIX > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:04:23 -0400 >> From: ka1...@gmail.com >> To: amradio@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m band wearing >> offalready? >> >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Bob Carpenter >> wrote: >> >>> The "extra's" can't understand why "everybody" is not down there ! Might >>> help if someone would pick a freq. that all HF ham's could use. There >>> answer >>> is get off your butt and up grade. >>> >> I don't think that's it at all, Bob - particularly since there's >> virtually zero activity up in the General portion as well. Nor is the >> answer to "pick a freq.'" as that simply boxes us in and sets up >> expectations for the anti-AM crowd to insist 'get back where you >> belong'. Upgrading is always a plus (I'm only a lowly Advanced, my >> license class doesn't even exist anymore in the testing structure!) >> since it allows you full access to all amateur privileges, but at the >> end of that day - getting on the air and off the internet is the only >> way to improve activity - regardless of mode. The only 'radio season' >> is the one we choose to impose personally. Static and interference - >> intentional or otherwise - have always been an issue we've had to >> contend with. >> >> Those who want to operate will be on the air, those who just want to >> talk about it online will continue to do so. >> >> ~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4 >> __ >> Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net >> AMRadio mailing list >> Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ >> List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html >> List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio >> Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net >> To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with >> the word unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > _
Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready?
Thanks Tom: I plan on it but it was another thought for all to ponder. 73 OM Allen KA1KIX > From: tche...@epix.net > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:25:12 -0400 > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready? > > Al, > > I think that most Hams realize that the knowledge gained by advancing to > Extra has nothing technical to do with the band priviledges you gain by > advancing. You need no additional skills to be on the extra portions of the > bands than what you already have for General. If you have the ability to > memorize then go ahead and do it and then have use of those additional > frequencies. I was not in the hobby when the incentive licensing was put > into place but the government should have licenses and tests based on > technical needs, not on enticing you with greater band priviledges. But...it > is what it is and you have to play the game. > > Tom K3TVC > > > - Original Message - > From: "Al Perkins" > To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" > > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing > offalready? > > > > Gentlemen: As in every aspect of life we go as far as we can and as far as > our understanding will take us. I for one have fought higher math and > "Theroy" all my life and it does not click. So, I will be the best General > operator I can be. I can probably shot better than most and survive in a > hostile environment better than most but I cannot understand and fathom > theory. > > Yes I could memorize the test but, I still would not be any more qualified > than I am right now. We need to compromize and keep the hobby alive and work > "All" licensed hams. > > > > Al Perkins 1SG RET. > KA1KIX > > > > > > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:04:23 -0400 > > From: ka1...@gmail.com > > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m band wearing > > offalready? > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Bob Carpenter > > wrote: > > > The "extra's" can't understand why "everybody" is not down there ! Might > > > help if someone would pick a freq. that all HF ham's could use. There > > > answer > > > is get off your butt and up grade. > > > > I don't think that's it at all, Bob - particularly since there's > > virtually zero activity up in the General portion as well. Nor is the > > answer to "pick a freq.'" as that simply boxes us in and sets up > > expectations for the anti-AM crowd to insist 'get back where you > > belong'. Upgrading is always a plus (I'm only a lowly Advanced, my > > license class doesn't even exist anymore in the testing structure!) > > since it allows you full access to all amateur privileges, but at the > > end of that day - getting on the air and off the internet is the only > > way to improve activity - regardless of mode. The only 'radio season' > > is the one we choose to impose personally. Static and interference - > > intentional or otherwise - have always been an issue we've had to > > contend with. > > > > Those who want to operate will be on the air, those who just want to > > talk about it online will continue to do so. > > > > ~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4 > > __ > > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > > AMRadio mailing list > > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ > > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > > Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with > > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > _ > Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online storage. > http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 > __ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailma
Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready?
Bob, Nice comments.? I'm finishing up restoration of a Collins 32V-2 and hope to have it in the shack soon.? Will be looking for you.? I'm south of you in Palm Coast, so maybe we'll hear each other. 73 Chuck W4MIL -Original Message- From: Bob Carpenter To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' Sent: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:31 am Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready? Al, Thanks for your comments regarding "all" hams. I didn't meant to get a small fire going the other day when I made my comments regarding the "extra" waiting at 7160 with nothing going on down there. I've been on this list for some time, and with the recent changes in the B'cast stations on 40 all you would see were comment about the "old a.m. freq of 7160 and let's all hit it and get going with A.M. again. Well looking at the March issue of QST page 59 shows that there are 207,000 general and advance licensees, and 115,500 Extra's. One would think that we all would not want to leave out the 207,000 general/advances potential a.m. op's in our conversation. I've made comments about this in the past and received the comment about up grading. Now I understand that in these "new day's" when it's NOT Fair to keep someone from doing what they want and in time the FCC will issue tickets like a fishing lic. It's still not there yet. I plan to up grade in time, Sorry for my run on mouth here. I'll be on 40 tonight running all the power I can ( 100-120watt a.m.) calling c.q. 7190 to 7180. 7 p.m. est I'm in Jacksonville, Fl, but I do throw a good signal up the east coast and out towards Alabama and Mississippi. Bob KB4WEC -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Al Perkins Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:26 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready? Gentlemen: As in every aspect of life we go as far as we can and as far as our understanding will take us. I for one have fought higher math and "Theroy" all my life and it does not click. So, I will be the best General operator I can be. I can probably shot better than most and survive in a hostile environment better than most but I cannot understand and fathom theory. Yes I could memorize the test but, I still would not be any more qualified than I am right now. We need to compromize and keep the hobby alive and work "All" licensed hams. Al Perkins 1SG RET. KA1KIX > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:04:23 -0400 > From: ka1...@gmail.com > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m band wearing offalready? > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Bob Carpenter > wrote: > > The "extra's" can't understand why "everybody" is not down there ! Might > > help if someone would pick a freq. that all HF ham's could use. There answer > > is get off your butt and up grade. > > I don't think that's it at all, Bob - particularly since there's > virtually zero activity up in the General portion as well. Nor is the > answer to "pick a freq.'" as that simply boxes us in and sets up > expectations for the anti-AM crowd to insist 'get back where you > belong'. Upgrading is always a plus (I'm only a lowly Advanced, my > license class doesn't even exist anymore in the testing structure!) > since it allows you full access to all amateur privileges, but at the > end of that day - getting on the air and off the internet is the only > way to improve activity - regardless of mode. The only 'radio season' > is the one we choose to impose personally. Static and interference - > intentional or otherwise - have always been an issue we've had to > contend with. > > Those who want to operate will be on the air, those who just want to > talk about it online will continue to do so. > > ~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4 > __ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _
Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready?
Thank you for the coureous reply. If you'll remember we had the same situation when they eliminated the code. I guess I am just looking at it from the standpoint of the Govt. in all there infinite wisdom selling off or giving away our frequencies. I have many AM friends I left in Maine and we had this discussion many times at club meetings. Right now all I have for an old AM rig is a G-50. I gave away several old rigs as we moved to TN and had to much to ship so will be looking for another rig to use on AM 80-40. Hope we meet on the air waves at some point 73OM Allen KA1KIX > From: bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:31:45 -0400 > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready? > > Al, > Thanks for your comments regarding "all" hams. I didn't meant to get a small > fire going the other day when I made my comments regarding the "extra" > waiting at 7160 with nothing going on down there. > I've been on this list for some time, and with the recent changes in the > B'cast stations on 40 all you would see were comment about the "old a.m. > freq of 7160 and let's all hit it and get going with A.M. again. > Well looking at the March issue of QST page 59 shows that there are 207,000 > general and advance licensees, and 115,500 Extra's. One would think that > we all would not want to leave out the 207,000 general/advances potential > a.m. op's in our conversation. I've made comments about this in the past and > received the comment about up grading. > Now I understand that in these "new day's" when it's NOT Fair to keep > someone from doing what they want and in time the FCC will issue tickets > like a fishing lic. It's still not there yet. I plan to up grade in time, > Sorry for my run on mouth here. > I'll be on 40 tonight running all the power I can ( 100-120watt a.m.) > calling c.q. 7190 to 7180. 7 p.m. est I'm in Jacksonville, Fl, but I do > throw a good signal up the east coast and out towards Alabama and > Mississippi. > > Bob > KB4WEC > -Original Message- > From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Al Perkins > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:26 AM > To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing > offalready? > > > Gentlemen: As in every aspect of life we go as far as we can and as far as > our understanding will take us. I for one have fought higher math and > "Theroy" all my life and it does not click. So, I will be the best General > operator I can be. I can probably shot better than most and survive in a > hostile environment better than most but I cannot understand and fathom > theory. > > Yes I could memorize the test but, I still would not be any more qualified > than I am right now. We need to compromize and keep the hobby alive and work > "All" licensed hams. > > > > Al Perkins 1SG RET. > KA1KIX > > > > > > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:04:23 -0400 > > From: ka1...@gmail.com > > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m band wearing > offalready? > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Bob Carpenter > > wrote: > > > The "extra's" can't understand why "everybody" is not down there ! Might > > > help if someone would pick a freq. that all HF ham's could use. There > answer > > > is get off your butt and up grade. > > > > I don't think that's it at all, Bob - particularly since there's > > virtually zero activity up in the General portion as well. Nor is the > > answer to "pick a freq.'" as that simply boxes us in and sets up > > expectations for the anti-AM crowd to insist 'get back where you > > belong'. Upgrading is always a plus (I'm only a lowly Advanced, my > > license class doesn't even exist anymore in the testing structure!) > > since it allows you full access to all amateur privileges, but at the > > end of that day - getting on the air and off the internet is the only > > way to improve activity - regardless of mode. The only 'radio season' > > is the one we choose to impose personally. Static and interference - > > intentional or otherwise - have always been an issue we've had to > > contend with. > > > > Those who want to operate will be on the air, those who just want to > > talk about it online will continue
Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready?
Al, I think that most Hams realize that the knowledge gained by advancing to Extra has nothing technical to do with the band priviledges you gain by advancing. You need no additional skills to be on the extra portions of the bands than what you already have for General. If you have the ability to memorize then go ahead and do it and then have use of those additional frequencies. I was not in the hobby when the incentive licensing was put into place but the government should have licenses and tests based on technical needs, not on enticing you with greater band priviledges. But...it is what it is and you have to play the game. Tom K3TVC - Original Message - From: "Al Perkins" To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready? Gentlemen: As in every aspect of life we go as far as we can and as far as our understanding will take us. I for one have fought higher math and "Theroy" all my life and it does not click. So, I will be the best General operator I can be. I can probably shot better than most and survive in a hostile environment better than most but I cannot understand and fathom theory. Yes I could memorize the test but, I still would not be any more qualified than I am right now. We need to compromize and keep the hobby alive and work "All" licensed hams. Al Perkins 1SG RET. KA1KIX > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:04:23 -0400 > From: ka1...@gmail.com > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m band wearing > offalready? > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Bob Carpenter > wrote: > > The "extra's" can't understand why "everybody" is not down there ! Might > > help if someone would pick a freq. that all HF ham's could use. There > > answer > > is get off your butt and up grade. > > I don't think that's it at all, Bob - particularly since there's > virtually zero activity up in the General portion as well. Nor is the > answer to "pick a freq.'" as that simply boxes us in and sets up > expectations for the anti-AM crowd to insist 'get back where you > belong'. Upgrading is always a plus (I'm only a lowly Advanced, my > license class doesn't even exist anymore in the testing structure!) > since it allows you full access to all amateur privileges, but at the > end of that day - getting on the air and off the internet is the only > way to improve activity - regardless of mode. The only 'radio season' > is the one we choose to impose personally. Static and interference - > intentional or otherwise - have always been an issue we've had to > contend with. > > Those who want to operate will be on the air, those who just want to > talk about it online will continue to do so. > > ~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4 > __ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready?
Al, Thanks for your comments regarding "all" hams. I didn't meant to get a small fire going the other day when I made my comments regarding the "extra" waiting at 7160 with nothing going on down there. I've been on this list for some time, and with the recent changes in the B'cast stations on 40 all you would see were comment about the "old a.m. freq of 7160 and let's all hit it and get going with A.M. again. Well looking at the March issue of QST page 59 shows that there are 207,000 general and advance licensees, and 115,500 Extra's. One would think that we all would not want to leave out the 207,000 general/advances potential a.m. op's in our conversation. I've made comments about this in the past and received the comment about up grading. Now I understand that in these "new day's" when it's NOT Fair to keep someone from doing what they want and in time the FCC will issue tickets like a fishing lic. It's still not there yet. I plan to up grade in time, Sorry for my run on mouth here. I'll be on 40 tonight running all the power I can ( 100-120watt a.m.) calling c.q. 7190 to 7180. 7 p.m. est I'm in Jacksonville, Fl, but I do throw a good signal up the east coast and out towards Alabama and Mississippi. Bob KB4WEC -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Al Perkins Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:26 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m bandwearing offalready? Gentlemen: As in every aspect of life we go as far as we can and as far as our understanding will take us. I for one have fought higher math and "Theroy" all my life and it does not click. So, I will be the best General operator I can be. I can probably shot better than most and survive in a hostile environment better than most but I cannot understand and fathom theory. Yes I could memorize the test but, I still would not be any more qualified than I am right now. We need to compromize and keep the hobby alive and work "All" licensed hams. Al Perkins 1SG RET. KA1KIX > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:04:23 -0400 > From: ka1...@gmail.com > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Is the novelty of the "new" 40m band wearing offalready? > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Bob Carpenter > wrote: > > The "extra's" can't understand why "everybody" is not down there ! Might > > help if someone would pick a freq. that all HF ham's could use. There answer > > is get off your butt and up grade. > > I don't think that's it at all, Bob - particularly since there's > virtually zero activity up in the General portion as well. Nor is the > answer to "pick a freq.'" as that simply boxes us in and sets up > expectations for the anti-AM crowd to insist 'get back where you > belong'. Upgrading is always a plus (I'm only a lowly Advanced, my > license class doesn't even exist anymore in the testing structure!) > since it allows you full access to all amateur privileges, but at the > end of that day - getting on the air and off the internet is the only > way to improve activity - regardless of mode. The only 'radio season' > is the one we choose to impose personally. Static and interference - > intentional or otherwise - have always been an issue we've had to > contend with. > > Those who want to operate will be on the air, those who just want to > talk about it online will continue to do so. > > ~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4 > __ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ Windows LiveT SkyDriveT: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsu