[amsat-bb] 44 Million HP
Great camera footage from last month's Shuttle launch. One camera is mounted on an Solid Rocket Booster. At 2:28, it separates ... and you watch it splash back into the ocean. The next camera was mounted watching one leading edge of the Shuttle's wing. Grab a cup of coffee ... http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=68551231 Clint ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] FM SSB Receiver Kit
So my new trip is building a receiver for the SSB birds!!! How about that! Does anyone know where I can order a kit??? Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SO-67
Thanks. Hopefully I'll be on the 0320ut pass tonight, if I don't have to pick up My kid. 73 Sent from my iPod Rick Tejera Editor, SACnews Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org K7TEJ On Mar 3, 2011, at 17:58, "D. Craig Fox" wrote: > I worked VE8EV on it last night. > > Craig > N6RSX > > -Original Message- > From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On > Behalf Of Rick Tejera > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:12 PM > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67 > > Has anyone heard from SO-67 after the reports of not hearing it earlier this > week? > > Sent from my iPod > Rick Tejera > Editor, SACnews > Saguaro Astronomy Club > www.saguaroastro.org > K7TEJ > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > NOTICE: This communication may contain privileged or other confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, or > an employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the > intended recipient, please advise the sender by reply email and immediately > delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the > contents. Thank you. > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Taurus - Glory launch streaming video and countdown timer
This is cool. Don't know if I want to get up at 0500 to watch it though but folks over the pond can sleep late and still catch it live. http://countdown.ksc.nasa.gov/elv/index-vafb.html Charlie KI4RDT ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SO-67
I worked VE8EV on it last night. Craig N6RSX -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Rick Tejera Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:12 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67 Has anyone heard from SO-67 after the reports of not hearing it earlier this week? Sent from my iPod Rick Tejera Editor, SACnews Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org K7TEJ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb NOTICE: This communication may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient, please advise the sender by reply email and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SO-67
Yes, I worked a pass this AM just fine. 73, Drew KO4MA Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Rick Tejera wrote: > Has anyone heard from SO-67 after the reports of not hearing it earlier this > week? > > Sent from my iPod > Rick Tejera > Editor, SACnews > Saguaro Astronomy Club > www.saguaroastro.org > K7TEJ > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] FS: Arrow 146-4S
Going to offer this here before putting on QTH.com Arrow 146-4S solid element antenna with "N" connector. New, in the shipping bag. I ordered before I found another set of antennas. There is about a month backlog to get antennas from Arrow, busy place. These sell for $60 plus shipping and handling of $15. I will sell for $60 shipped to US only. Paypal or USPS money order. 73 Bill K3SV ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: KYSat-1 Keps
Curious, I just tried both the Cubesat.org and Henk's corrected Keps here on the computer at home and neither would work. I did the exact same thing at the schools computer earlier today and it worked fine. --- On Thu, 3/3/11, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: From: Dave Webb KB1PVH Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] KYSat-1 Keps To: "charlie Cantrill" Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 7:08 PM That did the trick! Thanks Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X On Mar 3, 2011 7:04 PM, "charlie Cantrill" wrote: > > > > --Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 > 14:15:00 -0500 > From: Dave Webb KB1PVH > Subject: [amsat-bb] KySat-1 > To: AMSAT -BB > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I just tried using the TLEs off of the KySat-1 page, but couldn't get them > to work, nothing showed up. > > http://ssl.engineering.uky.edu/missions/orbital/kysat1/operations/ > > Dave - KB1PVH > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X > > > --- > > > I was wondering too if it was the checksum. When the web page was created, > the keps got pasted wrong. > Use the Keps from the cubesat.org page, they work.http://www.cubesat.org/ > 1 9U 011063.43259919 0. 0-0 0-0 0 > 2 9 97.9564 8.4412 0007658 67.0214 113.6793 14.7726555100If this > copy does not work, go to the cubesat.org page. > Charlie CantrillKI4RDT > > > > > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] SO-67
Has anyone heard from SO-67 after the reports of not hearing it earlier this week? Sent from my iPod Rick Tejera Editor, SACnews Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org K7TEJ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: KYSat-1 Keps
That did the trick! Thanks Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X On Mar 3, 2011 7:04 PM, "charlie Cantrill" wrote: > > > > --Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:15:00 -0500 > From: Dave Webb KB1PVH > Subject: [amsat-bb] KySat-1 > To: AMSAT -BB > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I just tried using the TLEs off of the KySat-1 page, but couldn't get them > to work, nothing showed up. > > http://ssl.engineering.uky.edu/missions/orbital/kysat1/operations/ > > Dave - KB1PVH > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X > > > --- > > > I was wondering too if it was the checksum. When the web page was created, the keps got pasted wrong. > Use the Keps from the cubesat.org page, they work.http://www.cubesat.org/ > 1 9U 0 11063.43259919 0. 0-0 0-0 0 > 2 9 97.9564 8.4412 0007658 67.0214 113.6793 14.7726555100If this copy does not work, go to the cubesat.org page. > Charlie CantrillKI4RDT > > > > > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] ELaNa Launch IRC chat
Courtesy of cubesat.org:http://www.cubesat.org/index.php/collaborate/ground-operators -"The CubeSat IRC channel is the place to be on launch day. Typically, amateur radio operators and developers from around the globe will collaborate their tracking efforts here and share tips and discoveries as new satellites are heard for the first time.If you would like to join in the fun, point your favorite IRC client to:irc.freenode.net#cubesatWe suggest setting your nickname to something that identifies yourself individually, as well as a note to what organization you are from, if any. For example, "Org_Name_CALLSIGN".See you there!"--Charlie CantrillKI4RDT ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] KYSat-1 Keps
--Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:15:00 -0500 From: Dave Webb KB1PVH Subject: [amsat-bb] KySat-1 To: AMSAT -BB Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just tried using the TLEs off of the KySat-1 page, but couldn't get them to work, nothing showed up. http://ssl.engineering.uky.edu/missions/orbital/kysat1/operations/ Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X --- I was wondering too if it was the checksum. When the web page was created, the keps got pasted wrong. Use the Keps from the cubesat.org page, they work.http://www.cubesat.org/ 1 9U 011063.43259919 0. 0-0 0-0 0 2 9 97.9564 8.4412 0007658 67.0214 113.6793 14.7726555100If this copy does not work, go to the cubesat.org page. Charlie CantrillKI4RDT ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] HudsonValleySatcomGroupNet Tonigtht 3/3 at 8PM EST On Echolink N2EYH-L 429079
Sorry for the short notice for the Net tonight at 8 PM on echolink N2EYH-L node 429079..Please join us for the net.Hope to hear you there. 73 Gary wa2aqh ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Correction for typo in date - Greater Houston Hamfest Satellite Demo
This coming Saturday, March 5, 2011, the Greater Houston Hamfest will be held. This is the second largest hamfest in Texas and the organizers are expecting over 1,000 attendees. The Houston AMSAT group will have a full suite of activities including an AMSAT booth, a technical presentation, and a satellite demo. Please listen for us on the 9:28 AM CST (15:28 UTC) pass of SO-50 on Saturday, March 5th. We will be using the call sign KK5W. Allen N5AFV ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Greater Houston Hamfest Satellite Demo
This coming Saturday, March 5, 23011, the Greater Houston Hamfest will be held. This is the second largest hamfest in Texas and the organizers are expecting over 1,000 attendees. The Houston AMSAT group will have a full suite of activities including an AMSAT booth, a technical presentation, and a satellite demo. Please listen for us on the 9:28 AM CST (15:28 UTC) pass of SO-50 on Saturday, March 5th. We will be using the call sign KK5W. Allen N5AFV ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News
Hi Tony, That's great news. Are you able to say what the power budget overhead is in having an SDX transponder? The most efficient SDX I'd heard of still consumed some 310mw more than an analog linear transponder which for a conventional 1U CubeSat is 310mw too many. SDX on a CubeSat with deployable solar panels paves the way to using far higher speed telemetry downlinks than we currently achieve in a 20kHz B/W. 73 Trevor M5AKA --- On Thu, 3/3/11, Anthony Monteiro wrote: > From: Anthony Monteiro > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News > To: m5...@yahoo.co.uk, amsat-bb@amsat.org > Date: Thursday, 3 March, 2011, 0:51 > Hi Trevor, > > The AMSAT Fox CubeSat bus will include both an analog FM > transponder and a software defined transponder (SDX.) For > the > Fox mission, we intend to program the SDX for high > performance > digital modes for our command and telemetry channels but > the > SDX could be programmed for almost anything including a > linear > or packet transponder on a follow up mission. > > 73, > Tony AA2TX > AMSAT VP Engineering > > --- > At 06:01 PM 3/2/2011, Trevor . wrote: > >Under the section "AMSAT-Fox planned features include" > > > >It says > > > >"AMSAT's flexible, CubeSat compatible software defined > transponder > >is a new approach providing a robust and reliable radio > link for > >future CubeSats allowing university teams to > concentrate on their > >scientific objectives." > > > >Now although listed under "AMSAT-Fox planned features" > that bullet > >point doesn't have the key word Fox in it. > > > >Can someone clarify if the FM transponder on Fox will > be SDX or if > >that's an aspiration for later CubeSats ? > > > >73 Trevor M5AKA > > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: PVC
To add to the thread I have a friend who has a semi repair shop. He has run PVC through out the shop for compressed air. He puts 150 psi through the PVC for air tools. I have played with PVC for a 2mtr mast. It worked pretty well. I want to use it in smaller sections for my satellite antennas which I don't to put up very high until I learn about the whole operation then I will place it on a roof with better material. I have the Yaesu 5500 rotor and that thing to me is heavy to lug around. Once it is on a roof with better materials it stays there until something breaks. I hope this helps. Mike N8GBU ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: RADAR QRM on FO-29 video on YouTube
One would be surprised how far those buzzards can be heard. When I was still working for what is now Verizon, we tried for six months to turn up a 10 GHz microwave route from downtown Hampton, Virginia to the Easter Shore, a 27 KM shot using 10 foot dishes on 300 foot towers. There were these repetitive error bursts at random times both day and night. We finally got it up to phone traffic right after the local paper said Langley AFB had been conducting exercises out over the ocean. Surprise, but our dish was aimed almost due east and had all the problems. The same setup looking west did not have a bit of trouble. We could have solved the problem with a few heat seeking missiles good to about 300 miles down range, but no govt. agency would admit to being within the path or range of our hop Right across the river is Norfolk Naval Base. Those 19 year old radar operators would never bring up their equipment in port before departing the next day, would they? Surprisingly how quick they shut down after we called the Navy harbor master. Jim On 3/2/2011 12:18 PM, Rocky Jones wrote: > It is the radar off of an E2-C...heard it many many times while playing cat > and mouse games with it... Robert Oler WB5MZO > >> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 05:04:30 + >> From: kq...@verizon.net >> To: glasbren...@mindspring.com >> CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: RADAR QRM on FO-29 video on YouTube >> >> Yow, that's pretty bad, Drew. >> You're probably too far from Eglin, so you think maybe it's from MacDill? >> Jim >> >> On 03/01/2011 03:35 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPSvVEjrTzY >>> >>> This is just a short video of the severe RADAR QRM I had today while >>> trying to work FO-29. This is about as bad as I've ever seen it here in >>> Central Florida. Please ignore my son coughing in the background (he's >>> getting better fast), along with one of my male cockatiels crooning to >>> the female one. :-) >>> >>> 73, Drew KO4MA >>> ___ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >> ___ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Kysat keps
I just hope NORAD release the official post launch keps via celestrack. Unlike the last Alaska launch. Never did get to the bottom of why that decision was made. Hopefully not a trend. David G0MRF In a message dated 03/03/2011 21:10:54 GMT Standard Time, summit...@live.com writes: Just by looking at the keps you can tell they are wrong, compare with another sat you can tell. I couldnt get it to work either. Is there anyone here who can help? Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Kysat keps
Just by looking at the keps you can tell they are wrong, compare with another sat you can tell. I couldnt get it to work either. Is there anyone here who can help? Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] KYSAT-1 TLE errors ?
Dave, Using Ryans LXS I see that (like so often) the TLEs do not have a correct checksum: Ryans XLS says it should be 1 9U 0 11063.43259919 0. 0-0 0-0 0 2 9 97.9564 8.4412 0007658 67.0214 113.6793 14.7726555105 And not as on their website: 1 9U 0 11063.43259919 0. 0-0 0-0 0 2 9 97.9564 8.4412 0007658 67.0214 113.6793 14.7726555100 Half of my SW here ignores the checksum, other half simply does not show the satellite. This is why I also had to correct the TLEs. Ps: feel free to double-check, I am not a TLE expert Henk, PA3GUO I just tried using the TLEs off of the KySat-1 page, but couldn't get them to work, nothing showed up. http://ssl.engineering.uky.edu/missions/orbital/kysat1/operations/ Dave - KB1PVH -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ryan Caron [mailto:rca...@gmail.com] Verzonden: zondag 26 december 2010 20:29 Aan: pa3...@amsat.org CC: PA3GUO; amsat-bb@amsat.org Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] O/OREOS TLE errors ? Hank (and the -bb) Attached is the spreadsheet previously mentioned spreadsheet to fix TLEs checksums. I've rewritten it since what I was using was still a tedious operation and I didn't want to distribute that to the community. This should be much better, though you still need to remove any leading spaces in the lines. It appears that O/OREOS' TLEs on their website are OK now, possibly because SpaceTrack is publishing now. My apologies for not getting this out sooner; we'll have to wait for the next launch to try this out. During the fog-of-war in the days after launch, I find there are often multiple TLEs for the same satellite. In this case I like to change the IDs so I can have them all loaded in GPredict simultaneously. This spreadsheet will verify that the IDs are the same for both lines, and of course regenerate the checksums. This spreadsheet was created with OpenOffice 3.2.1, and I've exported it to Excel and checked it with MS Office XP and appears to work fine. Please let me know if there are any problems. Happy holidays and 73, Ryan KB1LKI On 11/30/10 11:33 AM, PA3GUO wrote: > Hi Ryan > > Thanks a lot for your detailed reply. > > Would you be so kind to share that spreadsheet (XLS?) with me ? > In the coming days I really need (well, would higly appreciate) to > have working TLEs - especially also for Nanosail. > > Best of course would be if the O/OREOS/Nanasail team could fix this > prior to posting them on the web :-) > > Thanks > Henk > > > Ryan Caron schreef: >> The O/OREOS TLEs consistently do not have valid checksums (last digit >> of each line). I submitted a comment about this on their website but >> I have not heard back. The correct checksums are 2& 3, and not the >> 6& 5 that is listed. >> >> If, by the time you read this, the posted TLEs are not 6& 5, then >> the TLEs have been updated and you'll have to generate new checksums. >> The formula is a sum of all numerical characters on the line, >> including the line number, treating minus signs as a one and >> everything else (letters, >> +, spaces) as a 0. Then take modulus 10 of the sum (i.e. last digit >> +of >> the sum). Look it up on wikipedia for more details. >> >> I've made a spreadsheet to fix this, but it is still a manual >> operation for me (got to write a script at some point). Some programs >> disregard the the checksum, which is why HRD& the website still work >> and your tracking tool doesn't. Predict/GPredict, my tools of choice, >> require valid checksums, making proper TLEs a pet peeve of mine. I >> don't know what NOVA's up to. >> >> In terms of "swarm spread" (i.e. how small delta-V between spacecraft >> that shared the same ride, which in this case is just done by >> compressed springs, translates into spatial differences), 35 minutes >> of separation is pretty high for just 10 days after launch. With all >> the latest TLEs from the three websites, I show O/OREOS being 3.5 >> minutes ahead of RAX, and RAX being a 1.33 minutes ahead of FAST1/2. >> >> Ryan, KB1LKI >> >> On 11/30/10 4:54 AM, amsat-bb-requ...@amsat.org wrote: >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:55:16 +0100 >>> From: PA3GUO >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] O/OREOS TLE errors ? >>> To:amsat-bb@amsat.org >>> Message-ID:<19767175.1291067716437.javamail.r...@viefep21.chello.at> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I keep on having troubles with the O/OREOS kepler sets. >>> RAX and the others are fine. >>> >>> With todays version (as from the O/OREOS dashboard on the web) >>> - NOVA gives O/OREOS just a bit behind RAX >>> - HamRadioDeluxe give O/OREOS 35 minutes behind RAX >>> - The O/OREOS web (dashboard graphic) shows O/OREOS 35 minutes >>> behind RAX >>> - My private antenna tracking tool does not recognize the keplerset >>> of O/OREOS >>> >>> Anyone else has experienced this (and maybe even a solution) ? >>> Henk >>> -- >>> Henk, P
[amsat-bb] Re: April 12 - Yuri & ARISSat-1
Hi All, http://yurigagarin50.org/history/gagarins-flight has details of the timeline and the events on that day. The website is being built up over the next few weeks with some archive footage and other media stuff! cheers Graham G3VZV - Original Message - From: To: ; "Amsat BB" ; "Rocky Jones" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:20 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: April 12 - Yuri & ARISSat-1 > If you want to get technical, Gagarin did actually do an EVA of sorts. The > Russians were not sure he'd survive the landing so at 50,000 feet they had > him bail out of the ship and parachute down. They kept this secret for > quite some time as they were afraid that we'd claim some kind of foul and > use that to claim Sheppard was the first true space traveler. I think this > became public knowledge sometime in the '80's after the fall of the USSR. > > So, like I said, "technically" you could call it an EVA, since he left his > ship while it was airborne. > > 73 de > Rick > K7TEJ > > Rocky Jones wrote: >> >> We can celebrate many things about Yuri Gagarin, but one of them is not >> his space walk. >> You probably meant "space flight"...Alex Leoniv did the first space walk >> followed by Ed White.. >> >> As for ArISSat... oh dear. so many thoughts...Robert G. Oler WB5MZO 5N >> something and ARRL AMSAT NARS life member >> >> > From: clintbradf...@mac.com >> > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:53:04 -0800 >> > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org >> > CC: ariss-...@amsat.org >> > Subject: [amsat-bb] April 12 - Yuri & ARISSat-1 >> > >> > Yes, we are all disappointed that the deployment of ARISSat-1 has been >> > delayed - in direct violation of handshakes and written agreements. >> > >> > But that does not mean that we should ignore the historical event that >> > April 12 is bringing us: the 50th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's space >> > walk. >> > >> >> > >> > ___ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the >> > author. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> > program! >> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> ___ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] MIR - Ten years since splashdown
Hi all, With all of the recent exchanges about satellite birthdays, history etc. It prompted me to take a look back over some my notes and activities. I came across the final days of the MIR spacecraft and realised that this month ( MARCH ) marks 10 years since the craft was de-orbited and crashed in the south Pacific. On the 23rd March 2001 at approx. 0600 hrs UTC the spacecraft was reported to have made the impact so this month marks the date 10 years on from the end of another past era in space. Cheers Ken Eaton GW1FKY Amsat -UK Amsat NA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: April 12 - Yuri & ARISSat-1
>> ... If you want to get technical, Gagarin did actually do an EVA of sorts. Thanks, Rick, for trying to bail me out ... But it was a mistake/typo on my part ... (grin) Yes, after his 108-minute flight, Gagarin ejecting from the spacecraft at 7,000 metres (23,000 ft), and landing by parachute. Under International Federation of Aeronautics (FAI) qualifying rules for aeronautical records, pilots must both take off and land with their craft, so the Soviets kept the landing procedures secret until 1978, when they finally admitted that Gagarin did not land with his spacecraft. When the flight was publicly announced, after it was successfully completed, it was celebrated around the world as a great triumph, not just for the Soviet Union, but for the world itself, though it once again shocked and embarrassed the United States. Three weeks later, on 5 May 1961, Alan Shepard became the first American in space, when he was launched on the Mercury-Redstone 3 suborbital mission, in a spacecraft named Freedom 7. Though he did not achieve orbit, unlike Gagarin he was the first person to exercise manual control over his spacecraft's attitude and retro-rocket firing. The first Soviet cosmonaut to exercise manual control was Gherman Titov in Vostok 2 on 6 August 1961. Almost a year after the Soviets put a human into orbit, astronaut John Glenn became the first American to orbit the Earth, on 20 February 1962. His Mercury-Atlas 6 mission completed three orbits in the Friendship 7 spacecraft, and splashed-down safely in the Atlantic Ocean, after a tense reentry, due to what falsely appeared from the telemetry data to be a loose heat-shield. /end/ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: April 12 - Yuri & ARISSat-1
If you want to get technical, Gagarin did actually do an EVA of sorts. The Russians were not sure he'd survive the landing so at 50,000 feet they had him bail out of the ship and parachute down. They kept this secret for quite some time as they were afraid that we'd claim some kind of foul and use that to claim Sheppard was the first true space traveler. I think this became public knowledge sometime in the '80's after the fall of the USSR. So, like I said, "technically" you could call it an EVA, since he left his ship while it was airborne. 73 de Rick K7TEJ Rocky Jones wrote: > > We can celebrate many things about Yuri Gagarin, but one of them is not his > space walk. > You probably meant "space flight"...Alex Leoniv did the first space walk > followed by Ed White.. > > As for ArISSat... oh dear. so many thoughts...Robert G. Oler WB5MZO 5N > something and ARRL AMSAT NARS life member > > > From: clintbradf...@mac.com > > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:53:04 -0800 > > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > > CC: ariss-...@amsat.org > > Subject: [amsat-bb] April 12 - Yuri & ARISSat-1 > > > > Yes, we are all disappointed that the deployment of ARISSat-1 has been > > delayed - in direct violation of handshakes and written agreements. > > > > But that does not mean that we should ignore the historical event that > > April 12 is bringing us: the 50th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's space walk. > > > > > > > ___ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] KySat-1
I just tried using the TLEs off of the KySat-1 page, but couldn't get them to work, nothing showed up. http://ssl.engineering.uky.edu/missions/orbital/kysat1/operations/ Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News
John, We already have the spin stopping here. It is called AO-51. ;) Alan WA4SCA -Original Message- From: John Price [mailto:n4q...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:59 AM To: apbid...@mailaps.org; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News Gee, we sure would not wont "the spin to stop here" as O'Reilly puts it. John N4QWF On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Alan P. Biddle wrote: Bob, Actually, that would be a good name, since it will be fairly balanced. It has to be, so it won't go all wobbly on us. ;) Alan WA4SCA -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bob Bruninga Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 8:16 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News > AMSAT-Fox came out as a compromise. OK, but please lets not call it AMSAT Fox News if we want anyone to trust us. Bob ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- N4QWF Amateur Radio Operator AO-7,AO-27,FO-29,SO-50,AO-51,VO-52,ISS Email n4...@amsat.org Formerly KC4AHW VK3FEZ Amsat Member #27845 DXCC #33,478 VUCC SAT #135 WAS SAT #296 51 on AO-51 #13 LON -79.256 LAT 37.459 Grid FM07il >From the Foothills of the Blueridge *Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming - "WOW, What a ride!" ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: iPHONE4 & iTouch 4
The easiest one I have found and use daily (and it is free), is "satellite tracker." Craig N6RSX -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Green Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:42 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: iPHONE4 & iTouch 4 On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Pat McGrath wrote: > > Need advise on the best apps and why for Ham & Satellite activities. I like and use Go Sat Watch: http://www.gosoftworks.com/GoSatWatch/GoSatWatch.html The price is $9.99. Bryan Green KL7CN Usually /W6 in CM98fn 408-836-7279 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb NOTICE: This communication may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient, please advise the sender by reply email and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News
Gee, we sure would not wont "the spin to stop here" as O'Reilly puts it. John N4QWF On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Alan P. Biddle wrote: > Bob, > > Actually, that would be a good name, since it will be fairly balanced. It > has to be, so it won't go all wobbly on us. ;) > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > -Original Message- > From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On > Behalf Of Bob Bruninga > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 8:16 PM > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News > > > AMSAT-Fox came out as a compromise. > > OK, but please lets not call it AMSAT Fox News if we want anyone to trust > us. > > Bob > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- N4QWF Amateur Radio Operator AO-7,AO-27,FO-29,SO-50,AO-51,VO-52,ISS Email n4...@amsat.org Formerly KC4AHW VK3FEZ Amsat Member #27845 DXCC #33,478 VUCC SAT #135 WAS SAT #296 51 on AO-51 #13 LON -79.256 LAT 37.459 Grid FM07il >From the Foothills of the Blueridge *Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming - "WOW, What a ride!" ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Ham Radios on Cuises
Not to mention that a lot of hams that sail also equipment there boat with a pactor station to update their location from time to time. John, W0JAB ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: RADAR QRM on FO-29 video on YouTube
It is the radar off of an E2-C...heard it many many times while playing cat and mouse games with it... Robert Oler WB5MZO > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 05:04:30 + > From: kq...@verizon.net > To: glasbren...@mindspring.com > CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: RADAR QRM on FO-29 video on YouTube > > Yow, that's pretty bad, Drew. > You're probably too far from Eglin, so you think maybe it's from MacDill? > Jim > > On 03/01/2011 03:35 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPSvVEjrTzY > > > > This is just a short video of the severe RADAR QRM I had today while > > trying to work FO-29. This is about as bad as I've ever seen it here in > > Central Florida. Please ignore my son coughing in the background (he's > > getting better fast), along with one of my male cockatiels crooning to > > the female one. :-) > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > ___ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: April 12 - Yuri & ARISSat-1
We can celebrate many things about Yuri Gagarin, but one of them is not his space walk. You probably meant "space flight"...Alex Leoniv did the first space walk followed by Ed White.. As for ArISSat... oh dear. so many thoughts...Robert G. Oler WB5MZO 5N something and ARRL AMSAT NARS life member > From: clintbradf...@mac.com > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:53:04 -0800 > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > CC: ariss-...@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] April 12 - Yuri & ARISSat-1 > > Yes, we are all disappointed that the deployment of ARISSat-1 has been > delayed - in direct violation of handshakes and written agreements. > > But that does not mean that we should ignore the historical event that April > 12 is bringing us: the 50th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's space walk. > > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News
Yes, I bit my keyboard and lost the ctrl key...HA! Dee -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 8:50 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News I was waiting for this to happen. The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 3/3/2011 6:52 AM, Alan P. Biddle wrote: > Bob, > > Actually, that would be a good name, since it will be fairly balanced. > It has to be, so it won't go all wobbly on us. ;) > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > -Original Message- > From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] > On Behalf Of Bob Bruninga > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 8:16 PM > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News > >> AMSAT-Fox came out as a compromise. > OK, but please lets not call it AMSAT Fox News if we want anyone to > trust us. > > Bob > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News
I was waiting for this to happen. The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 3/3/2011 6:52 AM, Alan P. Biddle wrote: > Bob, > > Actually, that would be a good name, since it will be fairly balanced. It > has to be, so it won't go all wobbly on us. ;) > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > -Original Message- > From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On > Behalf Of Bob Bruninga > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 8:16 PM > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News > >> AMSAT-Fox came out as a compromise. > OK, but please lets not call it AMSAT Fox News if we want anyone to trust > us. > > Bob > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Satellite Station for sale
I just saw these two ads on QTH.com http://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=ki4lnm&fieldtosearch=Call Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News
Bob, Actually, that would be a good name, since it will be fairly balanced. It has to be, so it won't go all wobbly on us. ;) Alan WA4SCA -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bob Bruninga Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 8:16 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News > AMSAT-Fox came out as a compromise. OK, but please lets not call it AMSAT Fox News if we want anyone to trust us. Bob ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Fox News
Interesting comment Bob. Would you care to clarify your meaning? On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Bob Bruninga wrote: > > AMSAT-Fox came out as a compromise. > > OK, but please lets not call it AMSAT Fox News if we want anyone to trust > us. > > Bob > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- N4QWF Amateur Radio Operator AO-7,AO-27,FO-29,SO-50,AO-51,VO-52,ISS Email n4...@amsat.org Formerly KC4AHW VK3FEZ Amsat Member #27845 DXCC #33,478 VUCC SAT #135 WAS SAT #296 51 on AO-51 #13 LON -79.256 LAT 37.459 Grid FM07il >From the Foothills of the Blueridge *Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming - "WOW, What a ride!" ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb