[arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)
Hi Arijith... I too remember this interview. But the only change is: The song was not Bombay Theme but Tu Hi Re for which H Sridhar was trying to remove dirt tracks from Hariharan's voice. The reason could be that Mani disclosed the shooting situation and ARR felt that since the beaches would always be salty, it is best to retain the natural distortion in one's voice. Also, one more thought. How come Bombay, Roja, or KM miss out on the Top 100 movies list compiled by the Time mag crew??? Was Nayakan so much better than these??? Could anybody (who has seen Nayakan) provide more insights and probably compare it B, R, and KM? Thanks for reading. Chandra. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pKxVKC/UOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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hats off,buddy... nice to know such infos that u mentioned there..i think that shud be the biggest purpose of a group like this.. discuss something that normal listeners of music dont even comprehend.. and not discuss the lamentations and worries regarding arr's talent. like, i dont feel bad or anything like that when my friends laugh at me..for two reasons... 1)they are just doing that for fun..they know that iam an ardent fan of arr.even they do secretly admire arr. 2)even if they really mean it, I DONT CARE HAHA* Coming back to the point,u knopw somwthing. the song tu hi re, had been recorded in the studio in a special way...it was told by arr to some hindi mag, and i read it.(filmfare i suppose)arr was not happy with the way it's sound engineering was done at the first time, and later he and his engineer,sridhar sat back and made some changes.. onlything i know very well is that the kind of isolation that u get while hearing it in ur headphones is truly incredible these are the meticulous details even to which arr pays attention to...and thats why he takes so much time to compose. there is a clapping sound in thwe beginning of the song sundari.. in kannathil muthamittall. wow!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arijit Debnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No doubt what huge ability ARR has to compose every situations. I can draw ur attention to a piece from Sapney---the song is Chanda re chanda reif u watch that songthere is a moment when sadhna started singing and in the movie Kajol wants to lean on Prabhudevaand prabhu is refusing her at that point and the at that moment the music is so beautifulone cant appreciate until looking at it. One more effect called Dopler effect in physics is used in the song yunhi chala chal rahi songI dont know whether u've noticed or not---when at the ending of the song the other cars from opposite going thru, and clear dopler effect is created by ARR. But missing those little gems here and there in every bit of Swadesh if someone rate that album as average, then it is really sad---not for us, but for him only. Arijit Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely beautiful writing! My hat is off to you, I know you are a true fan of ARR and you are blessed to understand and feel his music at such a deep level. I have always felt what you have expressed so eloquently, and to people who say, Boss is losing his touch, I can only have symapthy, because you do not have the sense to appreciate such genius. The past 10 years, I have grown as a person just by listening to ARR's music and trying to understand what it takes to have his spirit and understanding of human emotions, life and philosphy. Like Rano had once mentioned, it is that state of mind that brings those exquisite music to us. It is unparalleled as far as I can see and cannot be copied! I was just listening to 'Hai Na' the other day as finally I can understand the entire meaning of the song (ARRs music made me strive to understand Hindi and Tamil both..and I'm on my way; I'm Sinhalese by the way). I keep thinking how ARR feels Zubeidaa's state of mind at the point of the song, her youthful excitement at having found true love..he captures all that just in the non-verbal phrase hHai re Hai re Hai re Hai re Hai. I can feel that in the song after watching the movie, but just imagine for a person to get into that character's emotions and put it into music before seeing the movie just based on something that is narrated to him...that is just out of this world! Again, thank you for writing this and I hope it opens at least a few minds in our group. I had tears in my eyes after reading this. Beautiful man. Please do share a little about you, most importantly, your name :) Take care. Hail ARR! Regards and best wishes. Dasun From: ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:45:23 - Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0) In response to your rightful concern and comments about the direction of ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or may not) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a true fan of ARR. Here is mine. To me, the box office results in no way represent the quality of the movie or the talent of its producers. Many fantastic peices of work have bombed, and besides the odd ones like Laagan, ones that do well have little more than the classic bollywood story and style to offer. If it were not for ARR and very few other talented actors and directors, I would not be paying attention to bollywood films or music! And by same reason I do pay attention to ARR's tamil albums, despite being a Northie. Clearly
RE: [arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)
No doubt what huge ability ARR has to compose every situations. I can draw ur attention to a piece from Sapney---the song is "Chanda re chanda re"if u watch that songthere is a moment when sadhna started singing and in the movie Kajol wants to lean on Prabhudevaand prabhu is refusing her at that pointand the at that moment the music is so beautifulone cant appreciate until looking at it. One more effect called Dopler effect in physics is used in the song "yunhi chala chal rahi song"I dont know whether u've noticed or not---when at the ending of the song the other cars from opposite going thru, and clear dopler effect is created by ARR. But missing those little gems here and there in every bit of Swadesh if someone rate that album as average, then it is really sad---not for us, but for him only. Arijit Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely beautiful writing! My hat is off to you, I know you are a true fan of ARR and you are blessed to understand and feel his music at such a deep level. I have always felt what you have expressed so eloquently, and to people who say, Boss is losing his touch, I can only have symapthy, because you do not have the sense to appreciate such genius. The past 10 years, I have grown as a person just by listening to ARR's music and trying to understand what it takes to have his spirit and understandingof human emotions, life and philosphy.LikeRano had once mentioned, it is that state of mind that brings those exquisite music to us. It is unparalleled as far as I can see andcannot be copied! I was just listening to 'Hai Na' the other day as finally I can understand the entire meaning of the song (ARRs music made me strive to understand Hindi and Tamil both..and I'm on my way; I'm Sinhalese by the way). Ikeep thinking howARR feels Zubeidaa'sstate of mind at the point of the song, her youthful excitement at having found true love..he captures all that just in thenon-verbal phrase "hHai re Hai reHai re Hai re Hai." I can feel that in the song after watching the movie, but just imagine for a person to get into that character's emotions and put it into music before seeing the movie just based on something that is narrated to him...that is just out of this world! Again, thank you for writing this and I hope it opens at least a few minds in our group. I had tears in my eyes after reading this. Beautiful man. Please do share a little about you, most importantly,your name :) Take care. Hail ARR! Regards and best wishes. DasunFrom: "ST" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] Re: ARRMUSIC!(a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:45:23 -Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0)In response to your rightful concern and comments about the directionof ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or maynot) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a truefan of ARR. Here is mine.To me, the box office results in no way represent the quality of themovie or the talent of its producers. Many fantastic peices of workhave bombed, and besides the odd ones like Laagan, ones that do wellhave little more than the classic bollywood story and style to offer.If it were not for ARR and very few other talented actors anddirectors, I would not be paying attention to bollywood films ormusic! And by same reason I do pay attention to ARR's tamil albums,despite being a Northie.Clearly, popular music in no way exacts musical talent. The beats andmelody (if even) are purely icing that fade away sooner than thecommercials promoting them. What I find most shameful about theindustry is that 95% of the tunes are 1) unoriginal and repetitive oftheir older work and/or 2) blatantly stolen under the ideal of"inspired from.." and/or 3) of same or similar style with differentinstruments, arrangement, and singers and( either 4. lack the thenotes that press the right keys to convey the right emotions OR 5.posses the notes to convey an emotion, however those that have becometoo obvious in the industry i.e. lack the range OR 6. do this jobwell, and I respect those rare few, but lack the magical x-factor thatARR has proved to be carrying since Roja )ARR's music, on the other hand, provides purity and shows integrity.First time I listen to any piece it is like an enigma. To an untrainedear like mine, it is a partial blurr. As I listen to it over and over,I uncover to more and more depth, what he is trying to convey in thesong. The instruments, musical arrangement, background track, range ofmelodies, novelty of the overall work, and the special something healways fills up in the middle of the track. The more I hear, the moreI discover what I was missing or misinterpreting when I had heard itbefore. It is a well known phenomenon that some or most of ARR's songsget better over time.
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I agree to your comments, but Titan Ad was lifted from MOZART_SYMPHONY NO 25.It is not AR's original tune. Charles --- pravindersheoran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: those who say that rahman doent have any new tunes or stuff like that plese listen to BOSE : THE FORGOTTEN HERO in one piece he has performed the muslim's prayer exactly the way it should be (ZIKR) in the second piece he has performed same music as is requred for durga pooja(durga pooja theme) in another piece he has given a lullaby in same style as is required what else do u require what else should be the potential in a MD who is exactly giving same music as is required by the situation can they forget the music of TITAN AD or AIRTEL AD pleses think before u write bye --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)
Dear ARR Fans This is in response to the reply of sahilthaker22 which was in response to Taurus8_0. Sahil has answered to Taurus8 really well, and I too endorse Sahil's views totally, I would like to add here, 1. It is very easy to make a light comment about ARR losing touch and all the stuff. What exactly is a 'touch' ? is it really the commercial success of the music ? I don't think so. Because in that case, ARR would never have stayed in this line for long. 2. It is the quality of the music and the approach of the composer to the subject of the movie. Except the movies where ARR recycled his songs ( with permission from the producers, probably for want of time ) I find that his music is honest with the story of the movie. As a result each of his song / album is different than the other one. 3. It requires an extremely sensitive mind to understand and appreciate music of ARR. Commercial success of any movie has no relevance as music director is one part of the jig-saw puzzle called the movie. All the pieces should fit in place then the whole effect is good. ARR can not be blamed if Swades or Bose could not do well. To me, both movies were outstanding, very sorry that majority is not with these movies. 4. As This forum is for ARR fans and we ( atleast me ) do not possess the knowledge to analyse ARR's music as experts. Atleast I am here to listen to ane enjoy ARR music. So lets spend time in exchanging news about his music and not pass on comments, especially loose ones. I enjoy / like / admire / respect / EACH AND EVERY song of ARR ( I have almost ALL of his songs, language NO bar ! ) and more than anything else, I respect the person ARR for what he is and for what he has gone through. It is really an education reading his biography which I found on one website. What a life ! What music ! Dear ARR, please continue to make music, we will ALWAYS stand by you and your music ! May the force will always be with you !!! God bless all ! Dinesh --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0) In response to your rightful concern and comments about the direction of ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or may not) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a true Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pKxVKC/UOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)
hey guys i tell u one strange thing and its only because of the magic of rahman i am from north part of india HARYANA i do not understand a single word of TAMIL language yet the favourite song of my life is VELLAI POOKAL from KANATHIL MUTHAMITTAL i even do not understand the meaning of these words yet the song is my favourite out of thousands of songs i have heared only thing i know is that this song is related to piece in life its the pure magic of RAHMAN's music whatelse can a music director do i bet if any person named TANSEN was a real person(in the history) he could not have been better than ALLH RAKHA RAHMAN bye --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, dnshvaidya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear ARR Fans This is in response to the reply of sahilthaker22 which was in response to Taurus8_0. Sahil has answered to Taurus8 really well, and I too endorse Sahil's views totally, I would like to add here, 1. It is very easy to make a light comment about ARR losing touch and all the stuff. What exactly is a 'touch' ? is it really the commercial success of the music ? I don't think so. Because in that case, ARR would never have stayed in this line for long. 2. It is the quality of the music and the approach of the composer to the subject of the movie. Except the movies where ARR recycled his songs ( with permission from the producers, probably for want of time ) I find that his music is honest with the story of the movie. As a result each of his song / album is different than the other one. 3. It requires an extremely sensitive mind to understand and appreciate music of ARR. Commercial success of any movie has no relevance as music director is one part of the jig-saw puzzle called the movie. All the pieces should fit in place then the whole effect is good. ARR can not be blamed if Swades or Bose could not do well. To me, both movies were outstanding, very sorry that majority is not with these movies. 4. As This forum is for ARR fans and we ( atleast me ) do not possess the knowledge to analyse ARR's music as experts. Atleast I am here to listen to ane enjoy ARR music. So lets spend time in exchanging news about his music and not pass on comments, especially loose ones. I enjoy / like / admire / respect / EACH AND EVERY song of ARR ( I have almost ALL of his songs, language NO bar ! ) and more than anything else, I respect the person ARR for what he is and for what he has gone through. It is really an education reading his biography which I found on one website. What a life ! What music ! Dear ARR, please continue to make music, we will ALWAYS stand by you and your music ! May the force will always be with you !!! God bless all ! Dinesh --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0) In response to your rightful concern and comments about the direction of ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or may not) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a true Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)
Sunil, Dasun, and other ARRies Just by reading your response I feel that the time spent writing it out was well worth it. It is wonderful to see that true appreciators of ARR's talents pass-by the forums. Indeed, I also hope that one day ARR catches up on not just this message, but many others left by true fans, and reslises his real achievement - earning a large number of true fans in a very precarious industry, who understand and thoroughly appreciate the depth of his work. I hope our group can settle on this thought and save us all time from bickering on industry views criticizing the genius. Surely it is most attractive to thump the infallible from a journalistic point of view, but the audience at this group is smarter than that. Usually I pass by such comments but seeing an ARR fan waver between his intuition and societal response, it had to be answered. Most of us have and will in the future face ridicule for remaining a devotee of ARR, and I hope everyone who supports him despite the criticizm has a decent back-firing shot up their sleeves. I am not disturbed if others are a fan of SEL, Illayaraja, Stevie Wonder, Emenim, or Mozart - people have different tastes and let them be - it is their loss for forgoing the beauty in ARR numbers. But disrespecting ARR or a fan of ARR only shows me their inaptitude from a musical sense. Dasun, you asked about me.. When ARR was not discovered to me I lived in Gujarat. By the time I realised I had found a gem I was in NZ. And now when the glitters of this gem are thoroughly weaved into my lifestyle, I am in the US - currently I'm a graduate student in U. of Texas at Austin. (anyone else in austin?). Who knows where I'll be tomorrow; but sure to say that I'll be floating in the sea of ARR melodies. Live on.. -S(ahil) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sahil, First of all, thanks for sending this mail. Hats off to you for expressing your thoughts so beautifully and intelligently. It was the most moving mail I have read in a long time. I hope someday ARR finds enough time to read your mail! It is evident that you FEEL his music and not merely listen. Over the years, I feel I have grown with his music which has matured and reached a stage where one wonders, how can he ever make this any better? Before you know it he composes a Meenaxi, then a Swades and then a Bose and answers your question. While we are left to absorb the subtle complexities of his creations, he moves on with his quest. Here's a legend who is perhaps the most underrated ever, probably because he achieved so much at his age. Regards, Sunil From: ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:45:23 - Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0) In response to your rightful concern and comments about the direction of ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or may not) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a true fan of ARR. Here is mine. To me, the box office results in no way represent the quality of the movie or the talent of its producers. Many fantastic peices of work have bombed, and besides the odd ones like Laagan, ones that do well have little more than the classic bollywood story and style to offer. If it were not for ARR and very few other talented actors and directors, I would not be paying attention to bollywood films or music! And by same reason I do pay attention to ARR's tamil albums, despite being a Northie. Clearly, popular music in no way exacts musical talent. The beats and melody (if even) are purely icing that fade away sooner than the commercials promoting them. What I find most shameful about the industry is that 95% of the tunes are 1) unoriginal and repetitive of their older work and/or 2) blatantly stolen under the ideal of inspired from.. and/or 3) of same or similar style with different instruments, arrangement, and singers and ( either 4. lack the the notes that press the right keys to convey the right emotions OR 5. posses the notes to convey an emotion, however those that have become too obvious in the industry i.e. lack the range OR 6. do this job well, and I respect those rare few, but lack the magical x-factor that ARR has proved to be carrying since Roja ) ARR's music, on the other hand, provides purity and shows integrity. First time I listen to any piece it is like an enigma. To an untrained ear like mine, it is a partial blurr. As I listen to it over and over, I uncover to more and more depth, what he is trying to convey in the song. The instruments, musical arrangement, background track, range of melodies, novelty of the overall work, and the special something he always fills up in the middle of the track. The more I hear, the more I
[arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)
Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0) In response to your rightful concern and comments about the direction of ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or may not) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a true fan of ARR. Here is mine. To me, the box office results in no way represent the quality of the movie or the talent of its producers. Many fantastic peices of work have bombed, and besides the odd ones like Laagan, ones that do well have little more than the classic bollywood story and style to offer. If it were not for ARR and very few other talented actors and directors, I would not be paying attention to bollywood films or music! And by same reason I do pay attention to ARR's tamil albums, despite being a Northie. Clearly, popular music in no way exacts musical talent. The beats and melody (if even) are purely icing that fade away sooner than the commercials promoting them. What I find most shameful about the industry is that 95% of the tunes are 1) unoriginal and repetitive of their older work and/or 2) blatantly stolen under the ideal of inspired from.. and/or 3) of same or similar style with different instruments, arrangement, and singers and ( either 4. lack the the notes that press the right keys to convey the right emotions OR 5. posses the notes to convey an emotion, however those that have become too obvious in the industry i.e. lack the range OR 6. do this job well, and I respect those rare few, but lack the magical x-factor that ARR has proved to be carrying since Roja ) ARR's music, on the other hand, provides purity and shows integrity. First time I listen to any piece it is like an enigma. To an untrained ear like mine, it is a partial blurr. As I listen to it over and over, I uncover to more and more depth, what he is trying to convey in the song. The instruments, musical arrangement, background track, range of melodies, novelty of the overall work, and the special something he always fills up in the middle of the track. The more I hear, the more I discover what I was missing or misinterpreting when I had heard it before. It is a well known phenomenon that some or most of ARR's songs get better over time. And I remember reading his interview once where he provided a possible explanation saying that because they are generally completely new tunes and melodies that people have not imagined before, it takes time to digest. Now, as for the criticizm of his recent works, I say that those who find his recent efforts repetitive and unattractive just dont understand music to a level that is required to appreciate ARR. In his earlier days, when he came out with Roja, Thiruta Thiruda, Rangeela, Bombay, etc.. people cherished them because they were very differently composed to what they had been hearing for years, and in a good way. I doubt the entire fan base understood the elegance of his composition. Those that did (like us ofcourse ) are still his grateful fans. We still appreciate his talents and by no means are we blind worshipers. Blind are those who can not see the beauty in ARR's work. I concede that not all of his works appear attractive, original, and of the standard he has set himself. In my experience what appears today does not stand true for ARR's music tomorrow. And one more thing, the same kind of songs that people pick-out to badmouth him today were being produced in his early days also. E.g. Patti rap - Muqabla, Jor Laaga - Chor Chor, Jo manga tha - Kabhi na Khabhi. But after listening to them many times over the years I have realised even those that dont seem attractive on the surface possess ARR's raw talent, in some form or other. As for the recent works, do they not carry the genius of ARR? Some examples..picking out 2-3 at random from these recent albums. DJAK - Jane Bahara - Listen to it in the right mood it will arouse unique feelings that is the mark of ARR sice Roja..also heads up to the lyrics (at some places). Can anyone else end a song as smoothly as this? - Zindagi hai dua - forget the vocals and focus on the instrumentation.. just that use of greekish guitar with piano is the proof of his super talent. Lakeer - Saadiya - saadiya saadiya saadiya haai.. you dont find originality and talent in this? the way naino ke shishe me saya hai kiska, luk chup ke chanda ke jaisa.. kashti yeh dil, kehti hai mil saagar hai ishq kaa... is sung, you dont find these lines unique, extraordinary, and containing ARR's genius Listen to it again if you dont. And again, until you do because trust me if you've liked ARR's earlier works, sooner or later it will come to you. - shehzade - not a big fan of these lyrics and little bit bombastic, but that seems to be the purpose of it. listen to about 1 min 30 seconds.. and pure genius at 2:53 and overall does it not put you in different shoes? Listen to it few more times dude. Boys - Listen to it from the point of view of the right audience and it is as innovative as his
Re: [arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)
Dear Buddy, This is 100% what I feel. I would also like to add one more thing... for heaven sake don't say Meenaxi and BOSE are a average... these both albums are masterpiece. These two are great examples.. which proves that our BOSS is extraordinary and his music is immortal. I used to listen to these albums almost daily.. but still I find something new in it... and which cannot me explained in words... its some short of feelings where the language becomes handicapped. Plese no more post like this... saying our BOSS has lost his touch... rather I would say he is improving day by day and now there is no one here to review his music. Vande Mathram. -PrakashST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0)In response to your rightful concern and comments about the directionof ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or maynot) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a truefan of ARR. Here is mine.To me, the box office results in no way represent the quality of themovie or the talent of its producers. Many fantastic peices of workhave bombed, and besides the odd ones like Laagan, ones that do wellhave little more than the classic bollywood story and style to offer.If it were not for ARR and very few other talented actors anddirectors, I would not be paying attention to bollywood films ormusic! And by same reason I do pay attention to ARR's tamil albums,despite being a Northie.Clearly, popular music in no way exacts musical talent. The beats andmelody (if even) are purely icing that fade away sooner than thecommercials promoting them. What I find most shameful about theindustry is that 95% of the tunes are 1) unoriginal and repetitive oftheir older work and/or 2) blatantly stolen under the ideal of"inspired from.." and/or 3) of same or similar style with differentinstruments, arrangement, and singers and ( either 4. lack the thenotes that press the right keys to convey the right emotions OR 5.posses the notes to convey an emotion, however those that have becometoo obvious in the industry i.e. lack the range OR 6. do this jobwell, and I respect those rare few, but lack the magical x-factor thatARR has proved to be carrying since Roja ) ARR's music, on the other hand, provides purity and shows integrity.First time I listen to any piece it is like an enigma. To an untrainedear like mine, it is a partial blurr. As I listen to it over and over,I uncover to more and more depth, what he is trying to convey in thesong. The instruments, musical arrangement, background track, range ofmelodies, novelty of the overall work, and the special something healways fills up in the middle of the track. The more I hear, the moreI discover what I was missing or misinterpreting when I had heard itbefore. It is a well known phenomenon that some or most of ARR's songsget better over time. And I remember reading his interview once wherehe provided a possible explanation saying that because they aregenerally completely new tunes and melodies that people have notimagined before, it takes time to digest.Now, as for the criticizm of his recent works, I say that those whofind his recent efforts repetitive and unattractive just dontunderstand music to a level that is required to appreciate ARR. In hisearlier days, when he came out with Roja, Thiruta Thiruda, Rangeela,Bombay, etc.. people cherished them because they were very differentlycomposed to what they had been hearing for years, and in a good way. Idoubt the entire fan base understood the elegance of his composition.Those that did (like us ofcourse ) are still his grateful fans. Westill appreciate his talents and by no means are we blind worshipers.Blind are those who can not see the beauty in ARR's work.I concede that not all of his works appear attractive, original, andof the standard he has set himself. In my experience what appearstoday does not stand true for ARR's music tomorrow. And one morething, the same kind of songs that people pick-out to badmouth himtoday were being produced in his early days also. E.g. Patti rap -Muqabla, Jor Laaga - Chor Chor, Jo manga tha - Kabhi na Khabhi. But after listening to them many times over the years I have realisedeven those that dont seem attractive on the surface possess ARR's rawtalent, in some form or other.As for the recent works, do they not carry the genius of ARR? Someexamples..picking out 2-3 at random from these recent albums.DJAK- Jane Bahara - Listen to it in the right mood it will arouse uniquefeelings that is the mark of ARR sice Roja..also heads up to thelyrics (at some places). Can anyone else end a song as smoothly asthis?- Zindagi hai dua - forget the vocals and focus on theinstrumentation.. just that use of greekish guitar with piano is theproof of his super talent.Lakeer - Saadiya - "saadiya saadiya saadiya haai.." you dont findoriginality and talent in this? the way "naino ke shishe me saya haikiska, luk chup ke chanda ke jaisa.. kashti yeh dil, kehti hai
