Re: [arr]Tunes recycled -An old chaps challenge
one is conscious inspiration, well thought out and planned. second could be inspiration without even knowing the source ourselves. for eg. that jeans song whose 1st line sounds like 'o mere sona re'. i read in a post here, that when ARR was asked about it, he said its a co-incidence. but the fact is that there is similarity in notes. which for me means that when one's brain is the kinds that is pre- occupied with musical notes most of our days and nights, one wouldnt even realize the starting point of our creativity. neither is it important for the listeners. so when stylegamer and pankaj kakkar are talking about inspiration, are u talking about consciously taking a tune, and coming up with something new? sometimes its just a different treatment like ARR does for his songs? (eg. swades and baba). bcos thats what your examples seem to point to. anyway, we know ARR doesnt need these tunes; i imagine, if he were born 2 or 3 thousand years ago, he would be probably one of those ppl who would be busy inventing ragas! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "stylegamer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If u know it is not a reuse , it is inspiration the same way like > Matrix was inspired by hinduism. The creators of MAtrix even admit it > themselves. But the MAtrix went on to be an innovative concept in > Hollywood.It is what u can do with a material u already been inspired > by. Even Isaac newton found out gravity by observing an Apple. So it > right to say he copied the apple? HE reverse engineered maechanism of > the the apply falling from a tree and found gravity. > > besides originality is nthing but recognition when people buy into it > and is influenced by society trends, information flow n people's > thinking ect. another example was torn tattered jeans which was in > fashion in the 2 previous decades. People bought into the idea of > wearing slit jeans which gave the appearance of being a pauper? > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pankaj Kakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > hi i like to share for people who think the tunes are copied, re- > used, re-mixed, re-cycled. We need a philosophical approach and guys > plse take in positive way and i m not hurting anyone here. Even gods > make incarnations and then re-incarnations in the form of many people > in this world. this re-incarnation is a repeat process in form of some > other persons. are we asking god why he re-incarnates as one cannot > research in that as will end up in nothing. we just accept & admire > its different form and its value. > > > > Similarly every music director creates fresh music which we would > not have heard so far and also music with a different presentation > with an influence of already tuned old music by some other MD, where > we may had gone through some time ago. that does not mean he lacks > creativity but it is his right of favoritism, his right of tastes, > likes to tune a song which resembles another song & also for the > compulsion of the film director & producer who wants the same tune/ > rhythm but in a different way. > > > > there is no point in criticising as old/recycled etc.. why? in our > lives we are doing the same thing again & again and we do different > things very rarely. so it is one's intelligent way of presentation/ > creativity we have to account it for and no need to worry of copy > cats. i m even interested to say, to see arr in future, to copy old > songs for sometime and to give the same to us in his creative way. we > are ready to listen & that is the spirit. so just ignore such time > wasting criticism. the great thing in arr's music is only he can > perform his songs atleast upto 75% on stages live for its > extraordinary mixing of instrumentals & voices in between and for very > nuance sounds as no other MDs or light music orchestras whether > ametuer or professional can give the same effects for his songs when > they perform independently. this is arr's strength. please guys post > ur views for this. thanx pankaj ;-) > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Know an art & music fan? Make a donation in their honor this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/VwqHaC/.VHMAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~-> Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ <*> To unsubscribe from t
Re: [arr]Tunes recycled -An old chaps challenge
If u know it is not a reuse , it is inspiration the same way like Matrix was inspired by hinduism. The creators of MAtrix even admit it themselves. But the MAtrix went on to be an innovative concept in Hollywood.It is what u can do with a material u already been inspired by. Even Isaac newton found out gravity by observing an Apple. So it right to say he copied the apple? HE reverse engineered maechanism of the the apply falling from a tree and found gravity. besides originality is nthing but recognition when people buy into it and is influenced by society trends, information flow n people's thinking ect. another example was torn tattered jeans which was in fashion in the 2 previous decades. People bought into the idea of wearing slit jeans which gave the appearance of being a pauper? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pankaj Kakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > hi i like to share for people who think the tunes are copied, re- used, re-mixed, re-cycled. We need a philosophical approach and guys plse take in positive way and i m not hurting anyone here. Even gods make incarnations and then re-incarnations in the form of many people in this world. this re-incarnation is a repeat process in form of some other persons. are we asking god why he re-incarnates as one cannot research in that as will end up in nothing. we just accept & admire its different form and its value. > > Similarly every music director creates fresh music which we would not have heard so far and also music with a different presentation with an influence of already tuned old music by some other MD, where we may had gone through some time ago. that does not mean he lacks creativity but it is his right of favoritism, his right of tastes, likes to tune a song which resembles another song & also for the compulsion of the film director & producer who wants the same tune/ rhythm but in a different way. > > there is no point in criticising as old/recycled etc.. why? in our lives we are doing the same thing again & again and we do different things very rarely. so it is one's intelligent way of presentation/ creativity we have to account it for and no need to worry of copy cats. i m even interested to say, to see arr in future, to copy old songs for sometime and to give the same to us in his creative way. we are ready to listen & that is the spirit. so just ignore such time wasting criticism. the great thing in arr's music is only he can perform his songs atleast upto 75% on stages live for its extraordinary mixing of instrumentals & voices in between and for very nuance sounds as no other MDs or light music orchestras whether ametuer or professional can give the same effects for his songs when they perform independently. this is arr's strength. please guys post ur views for this. thanx pankaj ;-) > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Know an art & music fan? Make a donation in their honor this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/VwqHaC/.VHMAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~-> Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr]Tunes recycled -An old chaps challenge
hi i like to share for people who think the tunes are copied, re-used, re-mixed, re-cycled. We need a philosophical approach and guys plse take in positive way and i m not hurting anyone here. Even gods make incarnations and then re-incarnations in the form of many people in this world. this re-incarnation is a repeat process in form of some other persons. are we asking god why he re-incarnates as one cannot research in that as will end up in nothing. we just accept & admire its different form and its value. Similarly every music director creates fresh music which we would not have heard so far and also music with a different presentation with an influence of already tuned old music by some other MD, where we may had gone through some time ago. that does not mean he lacks creativity but it is his right of favoritism, his right of tastes, likes to tune a song which resembles another song & also for the compulsion of the film director & producer who wants the same tune/rhythm but in a different way. there is no point in criticising as old/recycled etc.. why? in our lives we are doing the same thing again & again and we do different things very rarely. so it is one's intelligent way of presentation/creativity we have to account it for and no need to worry of copy cats. i m even interested to say, to see arr in future, to copy old songs for sometime and to give the same to us in his creative way. we are ready to listen & that is the spirit. so just ignore such time wasting criticism. the great thing in arr's music is only he can perform his songs atleast upto 75% on stages live for its extraordinary mixing of instrumentals & voices in between and for very nuance sounds as no other MDs or light music orchestras whether ametuer or professional can give the same effects for his songs when they perform independently. this is arr's strength. please guys post ur views for this. thanx pankaj ;-) __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Music artists Christian music artists New country music artists New music artists Country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
