Re: [arr] Yuvvraaj - my observations.

2008-10-20 Thread Vinayakam Murugan
A nice and logical response, Rawatji. Way to go.

Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak



On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:33 AM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   On 10/21/2008 5:37 AM India Time, _s_sundarr_2000_ wrote:
>
> > My take:
> >
> > 1) Once Yuvvraaj comes to an end, one wonders that which of the songs
> > from the album would turn into a chartbuster.
>
> My take:
>
> Shano is going to be most popular.
> Mastam is going to be the runner up.
>
> in terms of chart toppings.
>
> > 2)Dil kas rishta, manmohini and tu muskura are the top 3 numbers no
> > doubt. One similarity I could notice is the use of ALAAP in all 3,
> > Whenever he uses them, its almost a gauranteed hit. Good track tu
> > muskura becomes excellent bcoz of javed ali's alaap.
>
> yeah, these songs are great and soothin.
>
> But, a hip hop dance song would always become more popular than soothing
> songs.
>
> >
> > 3)I have an excellent audio system, somehow the other numbers are just
> > petrol on top of water, doesn't sink in.
>
> Sundar can't listen, saala.
> :-)
>
> >
> > 4)Not "all" rahman tracks grows on you.
>
> We all say that before the tracks grow on us. :-)
>
> >
> > 5)Picturisation may save some tracks, which cannot be said at this time.
>
> Picturization had helped many an albums in the past and turned the chart
> toppings.
>
> In 80s, Madhuri Dixit/ Anil Kapoor's film Beta (Anand Millind)'s Koyal
> Si Teri Boli was ruling the charts but when the movie got released, the
> sensuous picturization of Dhak Dhak Karne Laga moved to the top and
> removed Koyal.
>
> In 90s, Madhuri Dixit/ Sanjay Kapoor's film Raja (Nadeem Shravan)'s
> Nazrein Mili Dil Dhadka was a hit but when the movie got released, the
> naughty, mischievous picturization of Ankhiyaan Milaaoon Kabhi moved to
> the top and removed Love you raja.
>
> Of course, picturization can help and anything can happen.
>
> But, there is a catch.
>
> Ghai is still holding his musical sensitivities, but his directorial
> capabilities have taken a down slide. His films are not doing well, and
> he has lost the grip on public's pulse. His latest many movies are
> outright shabbiliy made.
>
> Even taal was badly made movie. Other than Anil Kapoor's new type of
> practical, pragramtic, wordly-wise characterization, there was nothing
> new in Taal that one can notice and remember (of course, Aish's beauty
> and ARR's music were there). The scene where Akshay's dad insults Aish
> and her father and the way Akshay reacts was outright sickening.
>
> Pardes's climax of Mahima running away, and then showing the guy's love
> bites to the elders was sickening.
>
> Yaadein's climax of that shareholders' meeting showing cards to jury the
> fate of love of the duo was unrealistic.
>
> So, I am not expecting much, visually, from Subhash Ghai this time also.
>
> In any case, this album has its own perfect foundation and it would
> bring viewers to the theatres, exactly what happened in Taal, even the
> movie is badly done.
>
> >
> > 6)Ghai rightly quoted "Taal - Best Musical Ever" from rahman. He
> > knows, rahman knows...
>
> A statement is valid at the time it is made. That EVER meant SO FAR. It
> has been 9 years. They are duly entitled to revise their statement or
> surpass it.
>
> >
> > Cheers
> > Sundar (melbourne).
>
> Thanks
> --
> Rawat
>  
>


Re: [arr] Yuvvraaj - my observations.

2008-10-20 Thread V S Rawat
On 10/21/2008 5:37 AM India Time, _s_sundarr_2000_ wrote:

> My take:
> 
> 1) Once Yuvvraaj comes to an end, one wonders that which of the songs
> from the album would turn into a chartbuster. 

My take:

Shano is going to be most popular.
Mastam is going to be the runner up.

in terms of chart toppings.

> 2)Dil kas rishta, manmohini and tu muskura are the top 3 numbers no
> doubt. One similarity I could notice is the use of ALAAP in all 3,
> Whenever he uses them, its almost a gauranteed hit. Good track tu
> muskura becomes excellent bcoz of javed ali's alaap.

yeah, these songs are great and soothin.

But, a hip hop dance song would always become more popular than soothing 
songs.

> 
> 3)I have an excellent audio system, somehow the other numbers are just
> petrol on top of water, doesn't sink in.

Sundar can't listen, saala.
:-)

> 
> 4)Not "all" rahman tracks grows on you.

We all say that before the tracks grow on us. :-)

> 
> 5)Picturisation may save some tracks, which cannot be said at this time.

Picturization had helped many an albums in the past and turned the chart 
toppings.

In 80s, Madhuri Dixit/ Anil Kapoor's film Beta (Anand Millind)'s Koyal 
Si Teri Boli was ruling the charts but when the movie got released, the 
sensuous picturization of Dhak Dhak Karne Laga moved to the top and 
removed Koyal.

In 90s, Madhuri Dixit/ Sanjay Kapoor's film Raja (Nadeem Shravan)'s 
Nazrein Mili Dil Dhadka was a hit but when the movie got released, the 
naughty, mischievous picturization of Ankhiyaan Milaaoon Kabhi moved to 
the top and removed Love you raja.

Of course, picturization can help and anything can happen.

But, there is a catch.

Ghai is still holding his musical sensitivities, but his directorial 
capabilities have taken a down slide. His films are not doing well, and 
he has lost the grip on public's pulse. His latest many movies are 
outright shabbiliy made.

Even taal was badly made movie. Other than Anil Kapoor's new type of 
practical, pragramtic, wordly-wise characterization, there was nothing 
new in Taal that one can notice and remember (of course, Aish's beauty 
and ARR's music were there). The scene where Akshay's dad insults Aish 
and her father and the way Akshay reacts was outright sickening.

Pardes's climax of Mahima running away, and then showing the guy's love 
bites to the elders was sickening.

Yaadein's climax of that shareholders' meeting showing cards to jury the 
fate of love of the duo was unrealistic.

So, I am not expecting much, visually, from Subhash Ghai this time also.

In any case, this album has its own perfect foundation and it would 
bring viewers to the theatres, exactly what happened in Taal, even the 
movie is badly done.

> 
> 6)Ghai rightly quoted "Taal - Best Musical Ever" from rahman. He
> knows, rahman knows...

A statement is valid at the time it is made. That EVER meant SO FAR. It 
has been 9 years. They are duly entitled to revise their statement or 
surpass it.

> 
> Cheers
> Sundar (melbourne).

Thanks
-- 
Rawat