Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver

2009-05-22 Thread Robert Molenda
Yes - I remember that thread/message - but I guess I'm still "old school"
unless "I do it and see it and touch it" I'm not comfortable stating that
"yes it works" :)

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Grooms, Frederick W <
frederick.w.gro...@xo.com> wrote:

> **
>
> There was a thread a short while back where someone had the Developer
> Studio running in Eclipse on his Mac with no problems.
>
>
>
> Fred
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert Molenda
> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2009 8:43 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver
>
>
>
> But in 7.5 the Developer Studio (AKA - Administrator Tool) is in Eclipse -
> so "in theory" it should run just fine on non-windows-machines. (Note to
> self - try installing it on my Fedora platform to check)...
>
>
>
> And the admin tool seems to be a bit slow - versus a small
> java-app... 
>
>
>
> Robert
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Carey Matthew Black 
> wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> Yea... but what do you do if your server is not a windows OS? :(
>
> The OS options are:
>   Windows
>vs
>   Solaris
>   AIX
>   HP-UX
>   RedHat
>   SuSe
>
> So that is a design choice that offers only 1 out of 6 supported
> server platforms a feature. Even if that one platform is 80% of your
> business, then that "solution" is only an 80% solution.
>
> One of the mysteries of why that function was built into a client
> instead of (or at least in addition to) a server side feature. A
> server side feature could have lead to integrations with server side
> Source Control systems. :) More advanced ARS application change
> control/release management etc...
>
> And do not get me started on how they did the "use a Packinglist" or
> an XML file part of the command line options. G...
>
>
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Tony Worthington
>
>  wrote:
>
> > ** And thanks to Jim Bruce  I didn't realize that aradmin (7.1
> anyway)
> > command line options allowed for the export of individual objects.
> >
> > Integrating, p197
>
>
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Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver

2009-05-22 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
There was a thread a short while back where someone had the Developer
Studio running in Eclipse on his Mac with no problems.

 

Fred

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Robert Molenda
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver

 

But in 7.5 the Developer Studio (AKA - Administrator Tool) is in Eclipse
- so "in theory" it should run just fine on non-windows-machines. (Note
to self - try installing it on my Fedora platform to check)...

 

And the admin tool seems to be a bit slow - versus a small
java-app... 

 

Robert

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Carey Matthew Black
 wrote:

Tony,

Yea... but what do you do if your server is not a windows OS? :(

The OS options are:
  Windows
   vs
  Solaris
  AIX
  HP-UX
  RedHat
  SuSe

So that is a design choice that offers only 1 out of 6 supported
server platforms a feature. Even if that one platform is 80% of your
business, then that "solution" is only an 80% solution.

One of the mysteries of why that function was built into a client
instead of (or at least in addition to) a server side feature. A
server side feature could have lead to integrations with server side
Source Control systems. :) More advanced ARS application change
control/release management etc...

And do not get me started on how they did the "use a Packinglist" or
an XML file part of the command line options. G...


--
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Tony Worthington

 wrote:

> ** And thanks to Jim Bruce  I didn't realize that aradmin (7.1
anyway)
> command line options allowed for the export of individual objects.
>
> Integrating, p197

 


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Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver

2009-05-22 Thread Robert Molenda
But in 7.5 the Developer Studio (AKA - Administrator Tool) is in Eclipse -
so "in theory" it should run just fine on non-windows-machines. (Note to
self - try installing it on my Fedora platform to check)...

And the admin tool seems to be a bit slow - versus a small java-app...


Robert

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Carey Matthew Black wrote:

> Tony,
>
> Yea... but what do you do if your server is not a windows OS? :(
>
> The OS options are:
>   Windows
>vs
>   Solaris
>   AIX
>   HP-UX
>   RedHat
>   SuSe
>
> So that is a design choice that offers only 1 out of 6 supported
> server platforms a feature. Even if that one platform is 80% of your
> business, then that "solution" is only an 80% solution.
>
>
> One of the mysteries of why that function was built into a client
> instead of (or at least in addition to) a server side feature. A
> server side feature could have lead to integrations with server side
> Source Control systems. :) More advanced ARS application change
> control/release management etc...
>
>
> And do not get me started on how they did the "use a Packinglist" or
> an XML file part of the command line options. G...
>
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Tony Worthington
>  wrote:
> > ** And thanks to Jim Bruce  I didn't realize that aradmin (7.1
> anyway)
> > command line options allowed for the export of individual objects.
> >
> > Integrating, p197
>
>
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Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver

2009-05-22 Thread Carey Matthew Black
Tony,

Yea... but what do you do if your server is not a windows OS? :(

The OS options are:
   Windows
vs
   Solaris
   AIX
   HP-UX
   RedHat
   SuSe

So that is a design choice that offers only 1 out of 6 supported
server platforms a feature. Even if that one platform is 80% of your
business, then that "solution" is only an 80% solution.


One of the mysteries of why that function was built into a client
instead of (or at least in addition to) a server side feature. A
server side feature could have lead to integrations with server side
Source Control systems. :) More advanced ARS application change
control/release management etc...


And do not get me started on how they did the "use a Packinglist" or
an XML file part of the command line options. G...

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.


On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Tony Worthington
 wrote:
> ** And thanks to Jim Bruce  I didn't realize that aradmin (7.1 anyway)
> command line options allowed for the export of individual objects.
>
> Integrating, p197

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Fw: Automating definition export using driver

2009-05-22 Thread Tony Worthington
And thanks to Jim Bruce  I didn't realize that aradmin (7.1 anyway) 
command line options allowed for the export of individual objects. 

Integrating, p197

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