Re: [Assam] Letter of Reply from ULFA to Shantikam Hazarika
Respected assamonliners,
We feel you are not coming forth with questions - maybe fearing
Parasar,Biswajeet('Rascul ' famed) and such RAW lackies will round you up and
disappear you.
Upto you.
Wish to note a few points:
Shati-Kam wrote you all to the right path and the agony of 'dukhuni' Assam,
which I love the most, comes to an end.
which I love the most, Really? even more than we do?That is why we wanted
you. Behave like Prince Siddhartha-- come and attain real Nirvana and liberate
your beloved land.
agony of 'dukhuni' Assam, You are the Brightest Management Guru East of Suez
as they say. You also claim Govt . of Assam wanted YOU to make real men out
of DUKHUNI's children.Now for assamonliners' benefit you need explaining what
you have done and plan to do to make the Dukhuni children come out of her
agony. Is Ulfa your hindrance-How?What?
right path This is not modern Management language is it? Talk of
Paradigm,Synergy,Win-Win ,Disappearing National Boundaries,Global Citizens,
Blah-Blah--
comes to an end. Will end when our 5 Crore people arrive at a point where
they can Plan lives-not disasters.
Keep those Questions coming. We will learn too.
Yours
Rubi
shantikam hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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For Rubi Bhuyan:
I am happy to receive a direct mail addressed to me. I shall directly get to
the points raised and would not raise any extraneous issues, though I must say
the provocation is there.
Your relevant mail has proven that, your real intention is to destroy the
National Liberation Struggle of Asom by attacking Ruby Bhuyan of the ULFA like
a rabid dog biting people on the street indiscriminately. We thank you for
revealing your design.
No response called for.
We do not wish to insult you by trying to make you knowledgeable how the
modern communications have made the world a small place. However, we are at a
loss to make out why are you unaware of the aim of the ULFA¢s past Twenty-Eight
years of struggle in Asom? Excepting a yokel, a person like you well versed in
advanced technology, should not have to come up with such a view.
I am fully aware of what the proclaimed aim of ULFA is. I am only at
a loss as to what to make out of the aim. Also, I am not sure what the real aim
of the ULFA is. Thee deeds do not match the aims.
The debate in question was not put forward in a manner of your
requirement of ¡asked them in plain, straight forward English¢. You are trying
to throw blows in the air just to sweep this deficiency under the carpet. We
would like to remind you that the debate took place as a result of Nayan
Parasar criticizing impertinently in the Asom On Line forum ¡the get well wish¢
statement of our Honourable Chairman Arobinda Rajkhowa when Dr. Mamoni Goswami
fell ill. Criticism of a ¡Get well wish¢ cannot be ¡Honest,gentle, civilized¢.
Unfortunately my knowledge of the English language and perhaps my
comprehending capability of the language is deficient. Hence I failed to make
any head or tail of what has been stated above.
But you approving his subterfuge and attacking the ULFA with
vindictive words have been noted in the net.
By the way, are you trying to scare me or what? Earlier you were
going to do a background check on me and now you are noting my words. What do
you mean?
You may not be aware that about ten years ago Prof. Jugal Kalita linking
the ULFA website to the Assam Org site there was an objection raised by one
Supratik Gupta. Following this there was a long debate between Arun Mahanta, a
member of the ULFA¢s Central Publicity Group and Supratik Gupta. In this
debate, Supratik was given detailed replies with unambiguous views the ULFA
holds. Supratik Gupta was not satisfied with it, but, the ULFA was very frank
in giving out replies. He wished to know what his status would be in a
Sovereign Independent Assam to a person of Bangladesh origin. We must say that
Supratik Gupta behaved like a gentleman. On the other hand your good man Nayan
Parasar does not sound at all a gentleman, but a sycophant bent upon keeping
Asom under colonial occupation forever. We are analysing of the reasons why
should you be promoting the sycophancy of Parasar as something very honourable.
I am not aware of what may have transpired ten years ago and has no
relevance here. Nor do I know who Nayan Parasar is. Again, I feel honoured that
the stuff that I type out on the net, (frankly I never think twice about them
while typing them and after pressing the 'send' button, forget about them)
deserve 'analysis'. The importance you seem to be giving to me is rather
embarrassing to me.
If you really want a useful discussion, you are welcome to come
Re: [Assam] Letter of Reply from ULFA to Shantikam Hazarika
For a moment I thought it was a letter of demand of ransom or bully money - common ploy used by bullies and mafia to brow beat a vigilant citizen. Not uncommon in urban Bihar or Mumbai's movie circles either. It doesn't seem to be any different to me. Umesh Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Letter of Reply from ULFA to Shantikam Hazarika X-YMail-OSG: L_aDRggVM1lY1TfXGmsAjJdRJ60mRHmQAlQUN.y1zbdzK07y3N0P3zEIb.fvkZQFoA-- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:38:37 +0100 (BST) From: ulfa_ 1979April7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shantikam here To: Shantikam Hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Chzlrs: 0 Mr Shantikam Hazarika, Your relevant mail has proven that, your real intention is to destroy the National Liberation Struggle of Asom by attacking Ruby Bhuyan of the ULFA like a rabid dog biting people on the street indiscriminately. We thank you for revealing your design. We do not wish to insult you by trying to make you knowledgeable how the modern communications have made the world a small place. However, we are at a loss to make out why are you unaware of the aim of the ULFA¢s past Twenty-Eight years of struggle in Asom? Excepting a yokel, a person like you well versed in advanced technology, should not have to come up with such a view. The debate in question was not put forward in a manner of your requirement of ¡asked them in plain, straight forward English¢. You are trying to throw blows in the air just to sweep this deficiency under the carpet. We would like to remind you that the debate took place as a result of Nayan Parasar criticizing impertinently in the Asom On Line forum ¡the get well wish¢ statement of our Honourable Chairman Arobinda Rajkhowa when Dr. Mamoni Goswami fell ill. Criticism of a ¡Get well wish¢ cannot be ¡Honest,gentle, civilized¢. But you approving his subterfuge and attacking the ULFA with vindictive words have been noted in the net. You may not be aware that about ten years ago Prof. Jugal Kalita linking the ULFA website to the Assam Org site there was an objection raised by one Supratik Gupta. Following this there was a long debate between Arun Mahanta, a member of the ULFA¢s Central Publicity Group and Supratik Gupta. In this debate, Supratik was given detailed replies with unambiguous views the ULFA holds. Supratik Gupta was not satisfied with it, but, the ULFA was very frank in giving out replies. He wished to know what his status would be in a Sovereign Independent Assam to a person of Bangladesh origin. We must say that Supratik Gupta behaved like a gentleman. On the other hand your good man Nayan Parasar does not sound at all a gentleman, but a sycophant bent upon keeping Asom under colonial occupation forever. We are analysing of the reasons why should you be promoting the sycophancy of Parasar as something very honourable. If you really want a useful discussion, you are welcome to come forward in earnest. Do you think only your type are the ones who deserves respect? You do not have to instigate any one to have a debate with us. In this instant what has unfolded puts you in the same defiled platform as with Nayan Parasr and Utpal Borpujari. Otherwise we could have a meaningful dignified debate in the meantime. Instead of scornfulness and insulting, a simple request on the query would have an appropriate approach. Now, in trying to prove the mastery of English or lack of it, has pushed aside our willing to be engaged in a meaningful discussion from the original debate. There is saying, ¡Faith is all about belief and destructive criticism shakes such beliefs¢ and a similar response by yourselves has ruined the possibility of productive engagement in this instance. Why are you all trying to damage the Mahanta brothers now? Rubi bhuyan central publicity member,ulfa - Are you a hoarder? Then you'll love Yahoo! Mail with unlimited storage. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org Umesh Sharma Washington D.C. 1-202-215-4328 [Cell] Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info) www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used ) http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ - For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month.___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Letter of Reply from ULFA to Shantikam Hazarika
I have a comment on the genuineness of the ULFA letter. Supposedly the letter is written and signed by Rubi (with an i) Bhuyan. Note how the writer's name is spelt as Ruby (with a y) in the first paragraph of the letter. Are Ruby and Rubi the same person? Rubi, the author of the letter does not how to spell his/her name? Anyway the main point is - how can the netters assume that they are actually in communication with someone from ULFA and debating with the right people, when in reality some impostor is having fun at the expense of the gullible netters. This net has seen such invasion from pseudonames and impostors in the past and one can never be sure these days in the realm of electronic mail. Just a word of caution before the thread becomes two miles long. Dilip Deka umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a moment I thought it was a letter of demand of ransom or bully money - common ploy used by bullies and mafia to brow beat a vigilant citizen. Not uncommon in urban Bihar or Mumbai's movie circles either. It doesn't seem to be any different to me. Umesh Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:X-YMail-OSG: L_aDRggVM1lY1TfXGmsAjJdRJ60mRHmQAlQUN.y1zbdzK07y3N0P3zEIb.fvkZQFoA-- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:38:37 +0100 (BST) From: ulfa_ 1979April7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shantikam here To: Shantikam Hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Chzlrs: 0 Mr Shantikam Hazarika, Your relevant mail has proven that, your real intention is to destroy the National Liberation Struggle of Asom by attacking Ruby Bhuyan of the ULFA like a rabid dog biting people on the street indiscriminately. We thank you for revealing your design. We do not wish to insult you by trying to make you knowledgeable how the modern communications have made the world a small place. However, we are at a loss to make out why are you unaware of the aim of the ULFA¢s past Twenty-Eight years of struggle in Asom? Excepting a yokel, a person like you well versed in advanced technology, should not have to come up with such a view. The debate in question was not put forward in a manner of your requirement of ¡asked them in plain, straight forward English¢. You are trying to throw blows in the air just to sweep this deficiency under the carpet. We would like to remind you that the debate took place as a result of Nayan Parasar criticizing impertinently in the Asom On Line forum ¡the get well wish¢ statement of our Honourable Chairman Arobinda Rajkhowa when Dr. Mamoni Goswami fell ill. Criticism of a ¡Get well wish¢ cannot be ¡Honest,gentle, civilized¢. But you approving his subterfuge and attacking the ULFA with vindictive words have been noted in the net. You may not be aware that about ten years ago Prof. Jugal Kalita linking the ULFA website to the Assam Org site there was an objection raised by one Supratik Gupta. Following this there was a long debate between Arun Mahanta, a member of the ULFA¢s Central Publicity Group and Supratik Gupta. In this debate, Supratik was given detailed replies with unambiguous views the ULFA holds. Supratik Gupta was not satisfied with it, but, the ULFA was very frank in giving out replies. He wished to know what his status would be in a Sovereign Independent Assam to a person of Bangladesh origin. We must say that Supratik Gupta behaved like a gentleman. On the other hand your good man Nayan Parasar does not sound at all a gentleman, but a sycophant bent upon keeping Asom under colonial occupation forever. We are analysing of the reasons why should you be promoting the sycophancy of Parasar as something very honourable. If you really want a useful discussion, you are welcome to come forward in earnest. Do you think only your type are the ones who deserves respect? You do not have to instigate any one to have a debate with us. In this instant what has unfolded puts you in the same defiled platform as with Nayan Parasr and Utpal Borpujari. Otherwise we could have a meaningful dignified debate in the meantime. Instead of scornfulness and insulting, a simple request on the query would have an appropriate approach. Now, in trying to prove the mastery of English or lack of it, has pushed aside our willing to be engaged in a meaningful discussion from the original debate. There is saying, ¡Faith is all about belief and destructive criticism shakes such beliefs¢ and a similar response by yourselves has ruined the possibility of productive engagement in this instance. Why are you all trying to damage the Mahanta brothers now?Rubi bhuyan central publicity member,ulfa - Are you a hoarder? Then you'll love Yahoo! Mail with unlimited storage. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Letter of Reply from ULFA to Shantikam Hazarika
umesh sharma jaipurschool at yahoo.com wrote: For a moment I thought it was a letter of demand of ransom or bully money - common ploy used by bullies and mafia to brow beat a vigilant citizen. Not uncommon in urban Bihar or Mumbai's movie circles either. It doesn't seem to be any different to me. Umesh UMESH: I am sending my reply to the mail addressed to me, which reminded you of .below Quote: For Rubi Bhuyan: I am happy to receive a direct mail addressed to me. I shall directly get to the points raised and would not raise any extraneous issues, though I must say the provocation is there. Your relevant mail has proven that, your real intention is to destroy the National Liberation Struggle of Asom by attacking Ruby Bhuyan of the ULFA like a rabid dog biting people on the street indiscriminately. We thank you for revealing your design. No response called for. We do not wish to insult you by trying to make you knowledgeable how the modern communications have made the world a small place. However, we are at a loss to make out why are you unaware of the aim of the ULFA¢s past Twenty-Eight years of struggle in Asom? Excepting a yokel, a person like you well versed in advanced technology, should not have to come up with such a view. I am fully aware of what the proclaimed aim of ULFA is. I am only at a loss as to what to make out of the aim. Also, I am not sure what the real aim of the ULFA is. Thee deeds do not match the aims. The debate in question was not put forward in a manner of your requirement of ¡asked them in plain, straight forward English¢. You are trying to throw blows in the air just to sweep this deficiency under the carpet. We would like to remind you that the debate took place as a result of Nayan Parasar criticizing impertinently in the Asom On Line forum ¡the get well wish¢ statement of our Honourable Chairman Arobinda Rajkhowa when Dr. Mamoni Goswami fell ill. Criticism of a ¡Get well wish¢ cannot be ¡Honest,gentle, civilized¢. Unfortunately my knowledge of the English language and perhaps my comprehending capability of the language is deficient. Hence I failed to make any head or tail of what has been stated above. But you approving his subterfuge and attacking the ULFA with vindictive words have been noted in the net. By the way, are you trying to scare me or what? Earlier you were going to do a background check on me and now you are noting my words. What do you mean? You may not be aware that about ten years ago Prof. Jugal Kalita linking the ULFA website to the Assam Org site there was an objection raised by one Supratik Gupta. Following this there was a long debate between Arun Mahanta, a member of the ULFA¢s Central Publicity Group and Supratik Gupta. In this debate, Supratik was given detailed replies with unambiguous views the ULFA holds. Supratik Gupta was not satisfied with it, but, the ULFA was very frank in giving out replies. He wished to know what his status would be in a Sovereign Independent Assam to a person of Bangladesh origin. We must say that Supratik Gupta behaved like a gentleman. On the other hand your good man Nayan Parasar does not sound at all a gentleman, but a sycophant bent upon keeping Asom under colonial occupation forever. We are analysing of the reasons why should you be promoting the sycophancy of Parasar as something very honourable. I am not aware of what may have transpired ten years ago and has no relevance here. Nor do I know who Nayan Parasar is. Again, I feel honoured that the stuff that I type out on the net, (frankly I never think twice about them while typing them and after pressing the 'send' button, forget about them) deserve 'analysis'. The importance you seem to be giving to me is rather embarrassing to me. If you really want a useful discussion, you are welcome to come forward in earnest. Do you think only your type are the ones who deserves respect? You do not have to instigate any one to have a debate with us. In this instant what has unfolded puts you in the same defiled platform as with Nayan Parasr and Utpal Borpujari. Otherwise we could have a meaningful dignified debate in the meantime. Instead of scornfulness and insulting, a simple request on the query would have an appropriate approach. Now, in trying to prove the mastery of English or lack of it, has pushed aside our willing to be engaged in a meaningful discussion from the original debate. There is saying, ¡Faith is all about belief and destructive criticism shakes such beliefs¢ and a similar response by yourselves has ruined the possibility of productive engagement in this instance. I am always looking for an opportunity to debate with the ULFA people. In fact that is why when you responded, even though obliquely, I welcomed the chance. I do not want your respect, because then I shall lose the respect of many people, which I
Re: [Assam] Letter of Reply from ULFA to Shantikam Hazarika
It doesn't seem to be any different to me. You are consistent . At 10:29 AM -0700 10/11/07, umesh sharma wrote: For a moment I thought it was a letter of demand of ransom or bully money - common ploy used by bullies and mafia to brow beat a vigilant citizen. Not uncommon in urban Bihar or Mumbai's movie circles either. It doesn't seem to be any different to me. Umesh Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Letter of Reply from ULFA to Shantikam Hazarika X-YMail-OSG: L_aDRggVM1lY1TfXGmsAjJdRJ60mRHmQAlQUN.y1zbdzK07y3N0P3zEIb.fvkZQFoA-- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:38:37 +0100 (BST) From: ulfa_ 1979April7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shantikam here To: Shantikam Hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Chzlrs: 0 Mr Shantikam Hazarika, Your relevant mail has proven that, your real intention is to destroy the National Liberation Struggle of Asom by attacking Ruby Bhuyan of the ULFA like a rabid dog biting people on the street indiscriminately. We thank you for revealing your design. We do not wish to insult you by trying to make you knowledgeable how the modern communications have made the world a small place. However, we are at a loss to make out why are you unaware of the aim of the ULFA¢s past Twenty-Eight years of struggle in Asom? Excepting a yokel, a person like you well versed in advanced technology, should not have to come up with such a view. The debate in question was not put forward in a manner of your requirement of ¡asked them in plain, straight forward English¢. You are trying to throw blows in the air just to sweep this deficiency under the carpet. We would like to remind you that the debate took place as a result of Nayan Parasar criticizing impertinently in the Asom On Line forum ¡the get well wish¢ statement of our Honourable Chairman Arobinda Rajkhowa when Dr. Mamoni Goswami fell ill. Criticism of a ¡Get well wish¢ cannot be ¡Honest,gentle, civilized¢. But you approving his subterfuge and attacking the ULFA with vindictive words have been noted in the net. You may not be aware that about ten years ago Prof. Jugal Kalita linking the ULFA website to the Assam Org site there was an objection raised by one Supratik Gupta. Following this there was a long debate between Arun Mahanta, a member of the ULFA¢s Central Publicity Group and Supratik Gupta. In this debate, Supratik was given detailed replies with unambiguous views the ULFA holds. Supratik Gupta was not satisfied with it, but, the ULFA was very frank in giving out replies. He wished to know what his status would be in a Sovereign Independent Assam to a person of Bangladesh origin. We must say that Supratik Gupta behaved like a gentleman. On the other hand your good man Nayan Parasar does not sound at all a gentleman, but a sycophant bent upon keeping Asom under colonial occupation forever. We are analysing of the reasons why should you be promoting the sycophancy of Parasar as something very honourable. If you really want a useful discussion, you are welcome to come forward in earnest. Do you think only your type are the ones who deserves respect? You do not have to instigate any one to have a debate with us. In this instant what has unfolded puts you in the same defiled platform as with Nayan Parasr and Utpal Borpujari. Otherwise we could have a meaningful dignified debate in the meantime. Instead of scornfulness and insulting, a simple request on the query would have an appropriate approach. Now, in trying to prove the mastery of English or lack of it, has pushed aside our willing to be engaged in a meaningful discussion from the original debate. There is saying, ¡Faith is all about belief and destructive criticism shakes such beliefs¢ and a similar response by yourselves has ruined the possibility of productive engagement in this instance. Why are you all trying to damage the Mahanta brothers now? Rubi bhuyan central publicity member,ulfa Are you a hoarder? Then you'll love http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mailuk/taglines/hotmail/hoarder/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48524/*http://uk.mail.yahoo.comYahoo! Mail with unlimited storage. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org Umesh Sharma Washington D.C. 1-202-215-4328 [Cell] Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info) www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used ) http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.htmlYahoo! For Good this month. ___
