Re: [asterisk-users] [EUQR] Re: North American voice BRI - Informal survey
Dave Donovan wrote: On 7/10/07, *Stephen Bosch* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Aarons (US) wrote: Since many CLECs (Competitve Local Exchange Carriers in NA) offer fractional PRI, combined with Internet/Data, I haven't seen any demand for ISDN BRIs for voice or data since early 90s. I don't know what it's like in your area, but here, fractional PRI is just not cost competitive if you need fewer than 10 channels. -Stephen- That's because, as Jason says, it's often offered with internet in the US. In Canada we see those offered as two discrete services. It adds a bit more money to the pot in terms of the economics of displacing analog. In which case, my question would be -- is the Internet service provided over fractional PRI cost competitive with DSL? Say I take a full T1 for data here. The economics are definitely arguable. I'm looking at five or six hundred clams for 1.5 Mbps. Even though it's symmetrical, I'm not sure the extra 300 over DSL is defensible. Whether you run voice or data over them, the cost per channel -- at least here -- is the same. Let's take 10 channels at an average of 40 dollars per channel (about typical on a fractional PRI without a contract). We'll be generous and say we are using 5 channels for voice. Our voice lines are competitive, but the data? 5 x 64 = 320 kbps 5 x 40 = $200 Hmn. Would I take 2.5 Mbps with static IP at $120/month, or 5 B for 320 kbps at $200 a month? If it's for servers, I can just as easily put them in a half cabinet colocation for the same price. I get Internet with power, SLA, security and fire protection thrown in. -Stephen- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [EUQR] Re: North American voice BRI - Informal survey
Since many CLECs (Competitve Local Exchange Carriers in NA) offer fractional PRI, combined with Internet/Data, I haven't seen any demand for ISDN BRIs for voice or data since early 90s. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Bosch Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:22 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [EUQR] Re: [asterisk-users] North American voice BRI - Informal survey Jeff Davis wrote: Jon Pounder wrote: If someone already has a customer relationship with them, ask straight out does it work in US/Canada with the BRI available here with asterisk. I just got off the phone with my sales rep. It appears I'm the third person today to ask about this. (I wonder why?) Your rep at Sangoma? Or your reseller? The answer is no it will not work in NA. Their reasoning being that with limited resources they went after the biggest market. I get the impression that there are no plans to write a North American driver as the demand seems to be very low. This is a real chicken-and-egg problem. More people would get BRI if there were affordable hardware for it. I would like to see them write a NAm driver for it. To get them to take the chance, there have to be enough people willing to purchase the card to make them consider it seriously. The other option is a bounty or community support to get it done. The hardware already exists. The more people make noise about this, the better the chances of that happening. -Stephen- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users - Disclaimer: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information and is for use by the designated addressee(s) named above only. If you are not the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any use or reproduction of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [EUQR] Re: North American voice BRI - Informal survey
Jason Aarons (US) wrote: Since many CLECs (Competitve Local Exchange Carriers in NA) offer fractional PRI, combined with Internet/Data, I haven't seen any demand for ISDN BRIs for voice or data since early 90s. I don't know what it's like in your area, but here, fractional PRI is just not cost competitive if you need fewer than 10 channels. -Stephen- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [EUQR] Re: North American voice BRI - Informal survey
On 7/10/07, Stephen Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Aarons (US) wrote: Since many CLECs (Competitve Local Exchange Carriers in NA) offer fractional PRI, combined with Internet/Data, I haven't seen any demand for ISDN BRIs for voice or data since early 90s. I don't know what it's like in your area, but here, fractional PRI is just not cost competitive if you need fewer than 10 channels. -Stephen- That's because, as Jason says, it's often offered with internet in the US. In Canada we see those offered as two discrete services. It adds a bit more money to the pot in terms of the economics of displacing analog. Dave ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
