Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?
Squeezemenicely wrote: > Archimago as usual your views and research are a very interesting read. > > Being a listener with relatively good hearing, I have often asked myself > if there really is a difference between a CD flac and 24/96. Often it is > the better remaster that makes the "big" difference. > > Also maybe the placebo effect, still sometimes I prefer the 24/96files. > The difference is slight, but somehow it seems there is more audible > space in the higher frequencies - no idea how to put it - probably > sounds silly anyway. Sometimes the album is mastered differently for the different media. "Hypnotic Eye" - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, was issued with different masters for CD (which is DR 7) and vinyl, hires download, and blu ray (which are DR 13). I can't remember which version went to iTunes. http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=&album=hypnotic+eye BTW my hearing is a mess. I have almost no hearing in my left ear (sudden sensorineural hearing loss). I can't tell which direction sounds come from. When audiophiles talk about soundstage being wider, shallower, voices in the middle, etc. its all lost on me. I can't tell the difference between 24/96 and 16/44, but I can still tell a bad (loudness wars) mastering from a good one. I bought quite a lot of "remastered" rock CDs because I didn't know any better. I loved the way my speakers sounded on acoustic music but not so much on electric music. I then bought the Steven Wilson remix of "The Yes Album", compared it to the previous (loud) CD I had and was blown away. My speakers sounded good on this electric music! For me the difference in in the mastering Homebuilt Votexbox 2.2 (2004 Pentium4, 2.66 GHz, 2.5 GB RAM) running LMS 7.8.0 Home Office: Wi-Fi>Touch>Coax>Peachtree Audio Nova>PSB Imagine Towers Den: Ethernet>Touch>Coax>Onkyo TX-SR806>Polk Speakers (2.1 for music) CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103034 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?
ralphpnj wrote: > My audiophile card was revoked the first time I heard "Jazz at the Pawn > Shop" and promptly declared that it was pure dreck and that I much > prefer to listen to Louie Armstrong's Hot Five and Sevens recordings. WOW! I'm so glad you posted this. I can't get into "Jazz at the Pawn Shop" either. I thought maybe it was over my head! Homebuilt Votexbox 2.2 (2004 Pentium4, 2.66 GHz, 2.5 GB RAM) running LMS 7.8.0 Home Office: Wi-Fi>Touch>Coax>Peachtree Audio Nova>PSB Imagine Towers Den: Ethernet>Touch>Coax>Onkyo TX-SR806>Polk Speakers (2.1 for music) CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103034 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh-oh, the ethernet/USB cable dispute all over again ...
I really have no dog in this hunt. I am not trying to engage in combat, I'm just curious on a couple of points. doctor_big wrote: > We've already established that ABX can't reveal audible differences in > amplifiers. It's of no use here. I'm sorry, but who is the "we" in this statement? doctor_big wrote: > ABX in the context of audio gear tests the subject not the equipment. Maybe, but why use a "subject" who cannot tell the difference? My mother can't tell the difference between my television and hers (there is a big difference, but she is losing her site). I would not base my TV purchases on her assessment of picture quality. Homebuilt Votexbox 2.2 (2004 Pentium4, 2.66 GHz, 2.5 GB RAM) running LMS 7.8.0 Home Office: Wi-Fi>Touch>Coax>Peachtree Audio Nova>PSB Imagine Towers Den: Ethernet>Touch>Coax>Onkyo TX-SR806>Polk Speakers (2.1 for music) CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102632 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Need advice: Good FREE 24-bit music recording?
Archimago wrote: > :-) > > Boring or not, I just want audiophiles to test if they can really tell > the difference between 24-bit and 16-bit. (As many claim they can!) Just curious, do you intend to post a link to this test at the Steve Hoffman Forums? I have taken to visiting that site lately before I buy a CD to see which release is considered to have the best sound quality. I have bought some of their recommendations, which really do sound good. I really like the forum but there are some pretty hefty claims made by some members with regard to their ability to hear differences between Redbook and hi-res music. I can understand people getting confused over this as I did the same. When I bought the 24/96 download of "Band On The Run" I was blown away. I thought the great sound quality was from hi-res, but later realized it was from the different mastering. Well that, and the last time I owned this album was on 8 track! So I was comparing a decades old memory of how this album sounded. Homebuilt Votexbox 2.2 (2004 Pentium4, 2.66 GHz, 2.5 GB RAM) running LMS 7.8.0 Home Office: Wi-Fi>Touch>Coax>Peachtree Audio Nova>PSB Imagine Towers Den: Ethernet>Touch>Coax>Onkyo TX-SR806>Polk Speakers (2.1 for music) CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101201 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?
bhaagensen wrote: > Ralph you're amazingly persistent;) "Eppur si muove" Galileo Galilei, 1633. CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96407 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch DAC
I am very happy with my Touch feeding a Peachtree Audio Nova. -- CharlieG CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection
jhonsber...@msn.com;671506 Wrote: > Just kidding . Steely Dan's recordings are some of the best quality > ever. So, you were just seeing if anyone was awake :-) -- CharlieG CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection
jhonsber...@msn.com;671141 Wrote: > Steely Dan's Gaucho. I read this and thought "wow, all of my Steely Dan albums have really good sound quality". So I am listening to Gaucho now...sounds great :-) Do you really think Gaucho has the poorest sound quality in your entire collection? -- CharlieG CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] speaker advancements over 15 years?
esbrewer;638869 Wrote: > Considering the Paradigm Studio 10, PSB Imagine Mini, KEF Q100 and > Dynaudio X12. The Studio 10s have the additional advantage of being > front ported. > > Thoughts? I see you mentioned PSB Imagines. I have a pair of Imagine Towers in a small room (11 X 14 with 9 foot ceiling). I am really impressed with these speakers, especially for the price. Here is a link to a review in Stereophile. http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/psb_imagine_t_loudspeaker/index.html These speakers are beautiful to look at. My wife even likes the way they look. On page 2 of this review K.R. says they work better for pop, jazz, and classical. I will agree with this assessment but add this; harder rock does not sound bad (the Imagines sound better than the Polks I have in another system), its just that anything acoustic really sounds great. Im listening to B.B. King right now and the blues sound good too. -- CharlieG CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88582 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyway for Transporter to support 24/192?
Mnyb;634004 Wrote: > It seems that way, but it is actually that track info thats is wrong, it > is properly transcoded to 24/96 or 88.2 . > > It's one audiophile every week that gets Cardiac dysrhythmia over this > (this observation pops up every week for the last 5 years, no one uses > the forum search), if some developer please could have the wits to > change that text to "transcoded" or similar , some of the devs must > secretly have a lot of fun with this ;) I haven't seen that particular note for a while now (I'm using 7.5.4). For example, I am looking at the info on a 24/96 track, "Hey Nineteen". It simply states, "bitrate: 2969kbps VBR". There is no longer any note about converted to xxx. I'm viewing this on my Touch. -- CharlieG CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87939 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sound quality between wav and flac
Variables have not been talked about in recent posts about testing. A) Which stereo equipment will be used? Cant you hear it now, of course you didnt hear a difference Charlie, your gear isnt revealing enough. B) Do you need a stock or modified Touch to be able to hear the differences? How many and what type modifications be allowed/required, if you choose to allow a modified Touch in the test? C) Because there is an option for there is no difference some would be biased toward this position before the test began and this could influence the test results. The results would be cleaner if one went into the test expecting a diffence and were proven right or wrong, than if one went into the test expecting to hear no difference and heard none. D) My ears are fifty-something years old. I have a significant loss of hearing and tinnitus in my left ear. Obviously I would be a bad candidate for this type of testing. I'll admit I am an extreme example, but no ones hearing is exactly the same as the next person. There would always be room to say this influenced the results. -- CharlieG CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71321 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
jbc;565008 Wrote: > Oh, forgot the second system in the kitchen/dining room > > SB3 digital output (S/PDIF) to a Peachtree nova, and a pair of B&W > bookshelf speakers. It actually sounds quite good. > > JBC I've got a Touch connected to a Peachtree Nova via coax, and a pair of PSB Imagine towers. Sounds really good for such a simple system. -- CharlieG CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
