Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

[Seekgene]

My Medeiros also were from Pico.  Eventually, dropping Medeiros and  ending 
up with Machado.  Originally settling in Massachusetts and after  WWII 
immigrating to California.
 
 
In a message dated 4/23/2013 4:11:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
p...@dholmes.com writes:

Great point, Gayle.



Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira  Genealogist
916-550-1618
_www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) 




 Original Message 
Subject: Re:  [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
From: Gayle Machado  <_goodwnos@aol.com_ (mailto:goodw...@aol.com) >
Date: Tue, April  23, 2013 4:01 pm
To: "_azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) " 
<_azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) >

Doug, Betty and others,


Excuse me for dropping into the middle of a conversion, but there is  both 
a blessing and a danger in generalizing. Just to offer a cautionary  
counterexample to one of the points listed this previous message: my  
grandmother 
was a Medeiros from Pico whose family settled in Massachusetts  (not 
California) around 1898.  It was only after the end of WWII that  they started 
to 
migrate out to the West Coast. By then, many of them had  changed the spelling 
to Madeiros. 


Gayle

On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:48 PM, <_pico@dholmes.com_ (mailto:p...@dholmes.com) 
>  wrote:




Hi Betty,


Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me  about 
your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell.


If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather,  
Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is  
buried 
in the cemetery in New Bedford, though.


About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my  first 
guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from  Sao 
Miguel.


However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico.
So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the  other 
surnames associated with Medeiros.
You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the  
Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John  
Miranda 
Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably  Bretanha.


You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with  Medeiros. I 
have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction,  and the 
majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with  some in Sao 
Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira.  So that doesn't 
really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a  great many using 
the name Moura.


On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao  
Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to  settle 
in 
New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If  this 
Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were  going where 
their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better  represented in CA 
when looking at percentages.


I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants.  Philip is 
far less common a first name than most and that is in your  favor. Try 
searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe  also NY if the 
first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or  maybe Filipe 
Medeiros).


I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out  of 
Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the  
corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.



That should get you off to a decent start.


Boa sorte (good luck)!



Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira  Genealogist
916-550-1618
_www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) 




 Original Message 
Subject:  [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
From: "Betty" <_bbffrrpp@comcast.net_ (mailto:bbffr...@comcast.net) >
Date: Tue, April 23, 2013  2:13 pm
To: <_azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) >

Hi Doug,

For  several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with  
his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree. (actually his father's cousin)  He 
is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary  (MIRANDA) 
MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children.

The 1900  US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and  
having 6 children with her. The family migrated here in 1889, and  the last 
3 children were born here. It seems Mr. Medeiros died  between 1895-1900, 
as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the  2 youngest, as teens, 
were with her, and I can't locate the older  children.

One side note is that I looked on census pages early  this morning, and 
there 
were 4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in  the same neighborhood, and 
arriving around the same time, including:  J

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

[eric edgar]

Betty,

The 1900 census for Mary Medeiros and children from Cambridge

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004113842_00251&fn=Frank&ln=Medeiros&st=d&ssrc=&pid=6130947

her childrens marriage records all show their father as Felix Medeiros,
mother Mary Miranda

Christina Medeiros

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11620-80072-56?cc=1469062&wc=6961559

Manuel Felix Medeiros
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11694-59441-42?cc=1469062&wc=6961460

Erminia ?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12387-97112-52?cc=1469062&wc=6961556

The 1910 census shows her sister Alice Miranda who arrived 1902

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7884&iid=3_4330077-00572&fn=Frank&ln=Medeiros&st=d&ssrc=&pid=109621835

No island shown. can't find their arrival.

Eric Edgar






On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:16 AM, rondo ranch  wrote:

>  Hi Betty,
>
> I'm very interested in your work on the Portuguese in Lowell.  My
> grandfather's family lived there for a number or years.  He has family
> buried in Catholic Cemetery.  I plan to make a trip there in the future get
> more information.  Please email me outside the group at
> ro...@lightspeed.net
>
> Doreen Caetano
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: p...@dholmes.com
> Sent: Apr 23, 2013 3:48 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
>
> 
> Hi Betty,
>
> Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about
> your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell.
>
> If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather,
> Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is
> buried in the cemetery in New Bedford, though.
>
> About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first
> guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao
> Miguel.
>
> However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico.
> So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other
> surnames associated with Medeiros.
> You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the
> Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John
> Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha.
>
> You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I
> have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the
> majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao
> Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that
> doesn't really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many
> using the name Moura.
>
> On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao
> Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to
> settle in New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If
> this Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were
> going where their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better
> represented in CA when looking at percentages.
>
> I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is
> far less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try
> searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if
> the first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe
> Medeiros).
>
> I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of
> Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the
> corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.
>
> That should get you off to a decent start.
>
> Boa sorte (good luck)!
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
>
>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
> From: "Betty" 
> Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pm
> To: 
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with
> his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree. (actually his father's cousin) He
> is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA)
> MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children.
>
> The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and
> having 6 children with her. The family migrated here in 1889, and the last
> 3 children were born here. It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900,
> as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

[rondo ranch]

Hi Betty,
I'm very interested in your work on the Portuguese in Lowell.  My grandfather's family lived there for a number or years.  He has family buried in Catholic Cemetery.  I plan to make a trip there in the future get more information.  Please email me outside the group at ro...@lightspeed.net 
Doreen Caetano
-Original Message- From: p...@dholmes.com Sent: Apr 23, 2013 3:48 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island 
Hi Betty,

Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell.

If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in the cemetery in New Bedford, though.

About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao Miguel.

However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico.
So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other surnames associated with Medeiros.
You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha.

You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that doesn't really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many using the name Moura.

On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to settle in New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If this Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were going where their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better represented in CA when looking at percentages.

I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is far less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if the first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe Medeiros).

I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.

That should get you off to a decent start.

Boa sorte (good luck)!

Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618
www.dholmes.com


 Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown IslandFrom: "Betty" <bbffr...@comcast.net>Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pmTo: <azores@googlegroups.com>Hi Doug,For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree. (actually his father's cousin) He is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children.The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and having 6 children with her. The family migrated here in 1889, and the last 3 children were born here. It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900, as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens, were with her, and I can't locate the older children.One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there were 4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and arriving around the same time, including: Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857, Victor, b1862. Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859. The problem is that most of them just say born Portugal.I'd like to help the cousin find his ancestry. Doug just mentioned that many MEDEIROS came from Faial and Pico. But, as far as I know, the cousin does not know where his Philip MEDEIROS, b~1855?, came from.Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA)P.S.About a month ago a very helpful researcher offered me information on my husband's ancestors. He said Mrs. Filomena (da ROSA) MOURA came from Horta, Faial, but her parents came from both Faial and Pico. She and Francisco MOURA also married there, and was told their children were born there. But, Francisco was from Ponta Degada, Sao Miguel.By the way, the surviving children were: Manuel, Elzira "Elsie," Ernesto "Frank," Rosa, and Carolina. (in that order) I read that Ernesto and Anna MOURA went back to the Azores during 1950's; is it possible they died there?  
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

[pico]

Great point, Gayle.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
From: Gayle Machado <goodw...@aol.com>
Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 4:01 pm
To: "azores@googlegroups.com" <azores@googlegroups.com>

Doug, Betty and others,Excuse me for dropping into the middle of a conversion, but there is both a blessing and a danger in generalizing. Just to offer a cautionary counterexample to one of the points listed this previous message: my grandmother was a Medeiros from Pico whose family settled in Massachusetts (not California) around 1898.  It was only after the end of WWII that they started to migrate out to the West Coast. By then, many of them had changed the spelling to Madeiros. GayleOn Apr 23, 2013, at 3:48 PM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote:Hi Betty,Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell.If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in the cemetery in New Bedford, though.About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao Miguel.However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico.So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other surnames associated with Medeiros.You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha.You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that doesn't really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many using the name Moura.On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to settle in New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If this Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were going where their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better represented in CA when looking at percentages.I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is far less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if the first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe Medeiros).I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.That should get you off to a decent start.Boa sorte (good luck)!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com    Original Message  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: "Betty" <bbffr...@comcast.net> Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pm To: <azores@googlegroups.com>  Hi Doug,  For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with  his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree. (actually his father's cousin) He  is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA)  MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children.  The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and  having 6 children with her. The family migrated here in 1889, and the last  3 children were born here. It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900,  as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens,  were with her, and I can't locate the older children.  One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there  were 4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and  arriving around the same time, including: Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857,  Victor, b1862. Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859. The problem is  that most of them just say born Portugal.  I'd like to help the cousin find his ancestry. Doug just mentioned that  many MEDEIROS came from Faial and Pico. But, as far as I know, the  cousin does not know where his Philip MEDEIROS, b~1855?, came from.  Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA)  P.S. About a month ago a very helpful researcher offered me information on my  husband's ancestors. He said Mrs. Filomena (da ROSA) MOURA came from  Horta, Faial, but her parents came from both Faial and Pico. She and  Francisco MOURA also married there, and was told their children were bor

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

[Gayle Machado]

Doug, Betty and others,

Excuse me for dropping into the middle of a conversion, but there is both a 
blessing and a danger in generalizing. Just to offer a cautionary 
counterexample to one of the points listed this previous message: my 
grandmother was a Medeiros from Pico whose family settled in Massachusetts (not 
California) around 1898.  It was only after the end of WWII that they started 
to migrate out to the West Coast. By then, many of them had changed the 
spelling to Madeiros. 

Gayle

On Apr 23, 2013, at 3:48 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Betty,
> 
> Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about 
> your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell.
> 
> If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel 
> Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in 
> the cemetery in New Bedford, though.
> 
> About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first 
> guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao 
> Miguel.
> 
> However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico.
> So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other 
> surnames associated with Medeiros.
> You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena 
> area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda 
> Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha.
> 
> You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I 
> have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the 
> majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao 
> Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that doesn't 
> really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many using the 
> name Moura.
> 
> On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao Miguel. 
> And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to settle in New 
> England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If this Medeiros 
> family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were going where their 
> families had settled and Faial or Pico are better represented in CA when 
> looking at percentages.
> 
> I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is far 
> less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try searching 
> passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if the first two 
> don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe Medeiros).
> 
> I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of 
> Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the 
> corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.
> 
> That should get you off to a decent start.
> 
> Boa sorte (good luck)!
> 
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
> From: "Betty" 
> Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pm
> To: 
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with 
> his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree. (actually his father's cousin) He 
> is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) 
> MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children.
> 
> The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and 
> having 6 children with her.   The family migrated here in 1889, and the last 
> 3 children were born here.It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900, 
> as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens, 
> were with her, and I can't locate the older children.
> 
> One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there 
> were 4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and 
> arriving around the same time, including: Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857, 
> Victor, b1862. Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859. The problem is 
> that most of them just say born Portugal.
> 
> I'd like to help the cousin find his ancestry. Doug just mentioned that 
> many MEDEIROS came from Faial and Pico. But, as far as I know, the 
> cousin does not know where his Philip MEDEIROS, b~1855?, came from.
> 
> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA)
> 
> P.S.
> About a month ago a very helpful researcher offered me information on my 
> husband's ancestors. He said Mrs. Filomena (da ROSA) MOURA came from 
> Horta, Faial, but her parents came from both Faial and Pico. She and 
> Francisco MOURA also married there, and was told their children were born 
> there. But, Francisco was from Ponta Degada, Sao Miguel.
> 
> By the way, the surviving children were: Manuel, Elzira "Elsie," Ernesto 
> "Frank," Rosa, and Carolina. (in that order) I read that Ernesto and 
> Anna MOURA went back to the Azores during 1950's;   is it possible they d

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

[pico]

Hi Betty,Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell.If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in the cemetery in New Bedford, though.About Medeiros, Hermano is probably right. That has always been my first guess when I run across anyone named Medeiros - that they came from Sao Miguel.However, I mentioned a lot of them in Faial and Pico.So the way I would approach this question is first to look at the other surnames associated with Medeiros.You mentioned Miranda and there are a lot of Miranda in Pico, in the Madalena area. But of course, we have our illustrious list member, John Miranda Raposo, whose Miranda is also from Sao Miguel, probably Bretanha.You also mention Moura, but it doesn't seem in connection with Medeiros. I have 49 named Moura in my genealogy program, a tiny fraction, and the majority seem to be from either the continent or Madeira, with some in Sao Miguel and some in Faial, one in Pico, and a few in Terceira. So that doesn't really tell me much, but I think Sao Miguel might have a great many using the name Moura.On the whole, I would say your friend's Medeiros is most likely Sao Miguel. And since it's also more common for people from Sao Miguel to settle in New England, that's another thing leading to this conclusion. If this Medeiros family had moved to CA, then it might also mean they were going where their families had settled and Faial or Pico are better represented in CA when looking at percentages.I would place a heavy importance on finding them as immigrants. Philip is far less common a first name than most and that is in your favor. Try searching passengers arriving in Boston, New Bedford and maybe also NY if the first two don't work. But look for Filipe de Medeiros (or maybe Filipe Medeiros).I believe his arrival would be before the gap in passport records out of Ponta Deldada, Sao Miguel. So if you can find his arrival, look for the corresponding departure from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.That should get you off to a decent start.Boa sorte (good luck)!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


 Original Message 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
From: "Betty" 
Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:13 pm
To: 

Hi Doug,

For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with 
his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree.(actually his father's cousin)He 
is more interested in finding descendants of  ..  Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) 
MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children.

The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and 
having 6 children with her.   The family migrated here in 1889, and the last 
3 children were born here.It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900, 
as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens, 
were with her, and I can't locate the older children.

One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there 
were  4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and 
arriving around the same time, including:   Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857, 
Victor, b1862.Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859.The problem is 
that most of them just say born Portugal.

I'd like to help the cousin find his ancestry.Doug just mentioned that 
many MEDEIROS came from Faial and Pico. But, as far as I know, the 
cousin does not know where his Philip MEDEIROS, b~1855?,  came from.

Betty  (near Lowell, MA, USA)

P.S.
About a month ago a very helpful researcher offered me information on my 
husband's ancestors.He said Mrs. Filomena (da ROSA) MOURA came from 
Horta, Faial, but her parents came from both Faial and Pico.She and 
Francisco MOURA also married there, and was told their children were born 
there.But, Francisco was from Ponta Degada, Sao Miguel.

By the way, the surviving children were:   Manuel, Elzira "Elsie," Ernesto 
"Frank," Rosa, and Carolina.   (in that order) I read that Ernesto and 
Anna MOURA went back to the Azores during 1950's;   is it possible they died 
there?
 







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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

[pico]

But Hermano, where's the fun if we don't ruffle some feathers?!It's the spice of life.:-)Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
From: "Hermano C. Pires" <lagoe...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 2:28 pm
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   Hi I just have to pipe in here and add my two cents worthIn Saudades da Terra it states that with some of the first settlers in the Azores, the Medeiros clan settled in the area of Alagoa (Lagoa), S. Miguel.There is a multitude of Medeiros in S. Miguel since that time.I hope this doesn' ruffle anybody's feathers :))Hermano  





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

[Hermano C. Pires]

Hi I just have to pipe in here and add my two cents worthIn Saudades da Terra 
it states that with some of the first settlers in the Azores, the Medeiros clan 
settled in the area of Alagoa (Lagoa), S. Miguel.There is a multitude of 
Medeiros in S. Miguel since that time.I hope this doesn' ruffle anybody's 
feathers :))Hermano
 > From: bbffr...@comcast.net
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:13:08 -0400
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with 
> his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree.(actually his father's cousin)He 
> is more interested in finding descendants of  ..  Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) 
> MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children.
> 
> The 1900 US census for Cambridge, MA, has Mrs. Medeiros as a widow, and 
> having 6 children with her.   The family migrated here in 1889, and the last 
> 3 children were born here.It seems Mr. Medeiros died between 1895-1900, 
> as he fathered a child in 1895. In 1910, only the 2 youngest, as teens, 
> were with her, and I can't locate the older children.
> 
> One side note is that I looked on census pages early this morning, and there 
> were  4 other MEDEIROS families, almost in the same neighborhood, and 
> arriving around the same time, including:   Joseph, b1869, Frank, b1857, 
> Victor, b1862.Mrs. Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS was b1859.The problem is 
> that most of them just say born Portugal.
> 
> I'd like to help the cousin find his ancestry.Doug just mentioned that 
> many MEDEIROS came from Faial and Pico. But, as far as I know, the 
> cousin does not know where his Philip MEDEIROS, b~1855?,  came from.
> 
> Betty  (near Lowell, MA, USA)
> 
> P.S.
> About a month ago a very helpful researcher offered me information on my 
> husband's ancestors.He said Mrs. Filomena (da ROSA) MOURA came from 
> Horta, Faial, but her parents came from both Faial and Pico.She and 
> Francisco MOURA also married there, and was told their children were born 
> there.But, Francisco was from Ponta Degada, Sao Miguel.
> 
> By the way, the surviving children were:   Manuel, Elzira "Elsie," Ernesto 
> "Frank," Rosa, and Carolina.   (in that order) I read that Ernesto and 
> Anna MOURA went back to the Azores during 1950's;   is it possible they died 
> there?
> 
> 
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