Re: BD 501 (formerly Lime and Humus)

2002-08-21 Thread Cheryl Kemp

James,
one of the discussions I had with Hugh Lovel, when he was out here was that
deep rooting tap root type weeds were a sign not only of compaction, but
also plants searching for silica. If there wasnt enough up in the atmosphere
above the earth, then they would have to go below to search out the minerals
in the subsoil.
He felt regular applications of 501, plus the rest of the BD sequence, 500,
Horn Clay and Barrel compost  would soon solve the problem.  Of course this
is what you are doing - so thistles are no longer needed.
Was good to see you at the National BD Workshop, enjoyed our conversations
too.

Cheryl Kemp
Education and Workshop Coordinator
BDFGAA
Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322
Home: 02 6657 5306
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.biodynamics.net.au

- Original Message -
From: "James Hedley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: BD 501 (formerly Lime and Humus)


> Dear Virginia,
> I cannot tell you yet exactly how Silica works in controlling thistles.
When
> I do the list will be first to know.
> My suspicion is that the ability of Silica to unlock mineralisation has
> removed the need for the thistles. At present time I dont have any
thistles
> on the farm to experiment with, those that are there are only small
rosettes
> which are half dead. I suppose that one could test the mineralisation in
the
> plant before spraying with 501, and then at various periods afterwards but
I
> dont have the facilities to do this.
> Have a good day
> James
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Virginia Salares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:55 PM
> Subject: BD 501 (formerly Lime and Humus)
>
>
> > James,
> >
> > Please elaborate on how silica (BD 501)prevents thistles from growing.
> >
> > Virginia
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "James Hedley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: Lime and Humus
> >
> >
> > > Dear Hugh et al,
> > > Silica is the unsung hero of the BD preps. It was not until using BD
501
> > > that we observed the real potential of the BD method.  It even stops
> > > thistles from growing and what are left are being grazed out in the
> > drought
> > > by the local colony of kangaroos, they know good healthy food when
they
> > > taste it.
> > > You have maintained that 501 is an atmospheric prep. From my
> understanding
> > > you think that it develops the formative patterns in the atmosphere.
> That
> > > may very well be true but Silica has the unique ability of repairing
> > > functionally impaired cells by enabling them to throw off inimical
> > > substances.It also has in Clarke's Materia Medica [p. 1175];
> > > "constitutions which suffer from deficient nutrition due to
assimilating
> > > power". Even if they never used any other of the BD preps in
> conventional
> > > farming the use of Silica to dissolve the phosphorus which has become
> > bound
> > > up in silicates should be common practice on all farms. The money in
the
> > > Phosphorus bank if released will save many farms from financial
> ruin.This
> > > has been proved by the CSIRO at Mackay during research work into the
> > control
> > > of Orange Rust in sugar cane. A study of  Materia Medica is important
to
> > get
> > > the feel of what the realm of activity of substances as could be seen
> from
> > > study of Silica.. One of the roles of  501 is to allow the plant to
> > > assimilate nutrients from the soil.
> > > Have a great day.
> > > James
> > >
> > >  - Original Message -
> > > From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:56 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Lime and Humus
> > >
> > >
> > > > James, et. al.,
> > > >
> > > > There's nothing like silica for making lime available. Read pages 30
> > > > through 33 of Steiner's AGRICULTURE (Lecture Two). Many, many low pH
> > soils
> > > > have limestone beneath them. The previous post (below) seems an
> inspired
> > > > method for bringing up the lime. Horn clay should also be able to
play
> a
> > > > role in this. It might be a big help, particularly in sandy soils.
> > > >
> > > > I Florida where most of the soils lack clay there commonly is 60 or
> more
> > > > feet (20 meters or so) of sand at the surface and beneath that are
> > > > limestone and phosphate deposits. This is the result of lime and
> > phosphate
> > > > filtering down through the sand over the eons in this high rainfall
> > > > climate. This happens particularly in winter when minerals have the
> > > > greatest tendency to crystalize and precipitate. In Steiner's words,
> ".
> > .
> > > .
> > > > if we are dealing with a soil that does not carry these influences
> > upward
> > > > during the winter as it should, it is good to furnish the soil with
> some
> > > > clay, the dosage of which I will indicate later."
> > > >
> > > > As many of us know, St

Re: Ferdy for Australia & New Zealand

2002-08-21 Thread Cheryl Kemp

Dear Ferdy,
How exciting, we would love to meet you and maybe organise some workshops
for you to meet and talk with our BD farmers and organise some farm visits
and trips around. Maybe you can contact me direct and we can organise more.
Sincerely,

Cheryl Kemp
Education and Workshop Coordinator
BDFGAA
Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322
Home: 02 6657 5306
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.biodynamics.net.au

- Original Message -
From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 12:13 AM
Subject: Ferdy for Australia & New Zealand


> Dear Allan,
> I will be in Australia and New Zealand from January 13th 2003 until
> February 27th, 2003. Are there any connections you know of where I could
> learn more about BD down'under? All the best Ferdinand
> --
>
>
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Re: Fw: Fw: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Helen McCall

I realise that, but I had assumed that a list would be configured to remove
those sorts of things - seems a bit silly everyone getting that message.   So
that's why I assumed it was a bug.
Helen

Katherine Griebel wrote:

> Hi Helen,
>
>   The "request for acknowledgement" is an option within the program
> "Outlook Express."  It just lets a person know if, in fact, the receiver of
> the e-mail actually did receive it.
>
> Kathy Griebel
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Helen McCall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In
> Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)
>
> This email come to me with a request for an acknowledgement receipt.
> Another
> glitch?
> Helen
>
> Katherine Griebel wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >   I am not receiving any STRIPPED ATTACHMENT  messages.  I am
> > receiving the attachments from Jane.  I use Outlook Express and I live in
> > Canada.
> >
> > Kathy Griebel
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In
> > Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)
> >
> > >In some cases when I forward things from GlobalNews, a photo will be
> > >attached to the file I receive from my GlobalNews mailing and before I
> > >forward those mssg's with attached files, I delete the file first. So
> > >perhaps, that's why the message appears about a stripped attachment.
> > >
> > >Jane
> >
> > I'm assuming that BD Now! people are not receiving ANY of message content.
> >
> > (Ain't language grand?)
> >
> > What is it folks?
> >
> > -Allan




Re: A list of the list

2002-08-21 Thread Gil Robertson

Who suggested New York was part of the civilized world?

Have your heard the speed they talk at!

I have heard the highest land form is the landfill rubbish dump.

Is that civilized?

Gil

Allan Balliett wrote:

> >Allan; If time permits, could you tell us how many subscribers there are to
> >the list and the countries the list goes to, I've often wondered.
> >David C
>
> David -
>
> Anything to remain off topic.
>
> The list is comprised of approximately 300 readers, although some may
> come and some may go...daily.
>
> We are received in all civilized areas of the world except, as far as
> I can tell, New York City.
>
> -Allan




Fw: Fw: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Katherine Griebel

Hi Helen,

  The "request for acknowledgement" is an option within the program
"Outlook Express."  It just lets a person know if, in fact, the receiver of
the e-mail actually did receive it.

Kathy Griebel

- Original Message -
From: "Helen McCall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In
Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)


This email come to me with a request for an acknowledgement receipt.
Another
glitch?
Helen

Katherine Griebel wrote:

> Hi,
>
>   I am not receiving any STRIPPED ATTACHMENT  messages.  I am
> receiving the attachments from Jane.  I use Outlook Express and I live in
> Canada.
>
> Kathy Griebel
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:45 AM
> Subject: Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In
> Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)
>
> >In some cases when I forward things from GlobalNews, a photo will be
> >attached to the file I receive from my GlobalNews mailing and before I
> >forward those mssg's with attached files, I delete the file first. So
> >perhaps, that's why the message appears about a stripped attachment.
> >
> >Jane
>
> I'm assuming that BD Now! people are not receiving ANY of message content.
>
> (Ain't language grand?)
>
> What is it folks?
>
> -Allan





Re: Not Stripped Attachments

2002-08-21 Thread Gil Robertson

Hi! I have just got an email from Allan and one I sent him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] got
cropped.

I think it may be that I used Note Pad or what ever to copy some material and
it was removed.

Gil

Lloyd Charles wrote:

> > I don't think anyone's complaining about the list set-up, Lloyd,
> > certainly I'm not.  It is frustrating when I go to read a message and
> > there's nothing there but it would not make me quit as a member, and I
> > don't think it would anyone else. I'd just like to find out why this
> > glitch is occurring and there's no harm in that.
> >
> > roger
> >
> Sure Roger
> But its not happening to all of us so does that mean
> that its something outside of the basic listserve setup?? There has got to
> be virus or virus protection setup involved in this I think? Different
> versions of browser software maybe??
> I was'nt meaning to "have a go" at you or anybody else. Maybe if we put
> together a list of those affected and those not and the systems they are
> running it might show something up ??
> Cheers
> Lloyd Charles




Re: A list of the list

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

>Allan; If time permits, could you tell us how many subscribers there are to
>the list and the countries the list goes to, I've often wondered.
>David C

David -

Anything to remain off topic.

The list is comprised of approximately 300 readers, although some may 
come and some may go...daily.

We are received in all civilized areas of the world except, as far as 
I can tell, New York City.


-Allan




Re: ADMIN: Text only posts

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

>But that requires us having emails for this list formatted differently,
>doesn't it?   Not very practical.
>Helen

it requires you setting your email tool to post messages that are in 
a text format rather than an html format. This is a request of a 
simple courtesy for the hundreds of readers of every message you 
send. HTML msgs are bloated and seldom add anything to the meaning of 
the messages.

-Allan




Re: ADMIN: Text only posts

2002-08-21 Thread Helen McCall

But that requires us having emails for this list formatted differently,
doesn't it?   Not very practical.
Helen

Allan Balliett wrote:

> Rex is probably correct here. Can posters set their software to send
> text only messages and NO HTML in the future?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Allan
>
> >
> >IMO... good on the new software! Lets keep the archives and
> >download times lean and mean by switching our emailers to TEXT
> >only. My version of Pegasus emailer does that by default. ;-)
> >
> >HTH... Rex




Re: Fw: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Helen McCall

This email come to me with a request for an acknowledgement receipt.  Another
glitch?
Helen

Katherine Griebel wrote:

> Hi,
>
>   I am not receiving any STRIPPED ATTACHMENT  messages.  I am
> receiving the attachments from Jane.  I use Outlook Express and I live in
> Canada.
>
> Kathy Griebel
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:45 AM
> Subject: Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In
> Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)
>
> >In some cases when I forward things from GlobalNews, a photo will be
> >attached to the file I receive from my GlobalNews mailing and before I
> >forward those mssg's with attached files, I delete the file first. So
> >perhaps, that's why the message appears about a stripped attachment.
> >
> >Jane
>
> I'm assuming that BD Now! people are not receiving ANY of message content.
>
> (Ain't language grand?)
>
> What is it folks?
>
> -Allan




Re: Ferdy for Australia & New Zealand

2002-08-21 Thread Helen McCall

What part of Australia?
Helen

Allan Balliett wrote:

> Dear Allan,
> I will be in Australia and New Zealand from January 13th 2003 until
> February 27th, 2003. Are there any connections you know of where I could
> learn more about BD down'under? All the best Ferdinand
> --
>
> 
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> C-DAR HOUSE: a Centre for the transformation of the voice of the forest
> into an understanding of its soul through the arts. Fax: 604 898-1512
> Phone: 604-898-9101 Web site: http://www.c-dar.com




Re: Ferdy for Australia & New Zealand

2002-08-21 Thread D & S Chamberlain

Ferdy: You're welcome at my house, you won't learn much from me, but I make
a good cuppa. Let us know where you are going and we'll see what can be
arranged.
David C

- Original Message -
From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2002 12:13 AM
Subject: Ferdy for Australia & New Zealand


> Dear Allan,
> I will be in Australia and New Zealand from January 13th 2003 until
> February 27th, 2003. Are there any connections you know of where I could
> learn more about BD down'under? All the best Ferdinand
> --
>
>
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> C-DAR HOUSE: a Centre for the transformation of the voice of the forest
> into an understanding of its soul through the arts. Fax: 604 898-1512
> Phone: 604-898-9101 Web site: http://www.c-dar.com
>
>




A list of the list

2002-08-21 Thread D & S Chamberlain

Allan; If time permits, could you tell us how many subscribers there are to
the list and the countries the list goes to, I've often wondered.
David C




Re: [globalnews] The Book of Nature

2002-08-21 Thread Lloyd Charles

Hi Jane
The traffic on this "stripping" thing is a bit strange . Is this
the message as you sent it. Or has it been changed / re arranged somehow. I
am set up for text only (no html)
and using Outlook Express. Below is how it came to me.

- Original Message -
From: Jane Sherry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: BdNow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:00 PM
Subject: FW: [globalnews] The Book of Nature


>
>
> THE ONE ORIGINAL
>
> The world's the book where the eternal Sense
>   Wrote his own thoughts; the living temple where,
>   Painting his very self, with figures fair
>   He filled the whole immense circumference.
> Here then should each man read, and gazing find
>   Both how to live and govern, and beware
>   Of godlessness; and, seeing God all-where,
>   Be bold to grasp the universal mind.
> But we tied down to books and temples dead,
>   Copied with countless errors from life, -
>   These nobler than that school sublime we call.
> O may our senseless souls at length be led
>   To truth by pain, grief, anguish, trouble, strife,
>   Turn we to read the one original.
>
> TOMMASO CAMPANELLA
>
> --
> Be the change you want to see in the world.
> --Gandhi
>
>
>




Re: Not Stripped Attachments

2002-08-21 Thread Lloyd Charles


> I don't think anyone's complaining about the list set-up, Lloyd,
> certainly I'm not.  It is frustrating when I go to read a message and
> there's nothing there but it would not make me quit as a member, and I
> don't think it would anyone else. I'd just like to find out why this
> glitch is occurring and there's no harm in that.
>
> roger
>
Sure Roger
But its not happening to all of us so does that mean
that its something outside of the basic listserve setup?? There has got to
be virus or virus protection setup involved in this I think? Different
versions of browser software maybe??
I was'nt meaning to "have a go" at you or anybody else. Maybe if we put
together a list of those affected and those not and the systems they are
running it might show something up ??
Cheers
Lloyd Charles




Next Best Time for Sequential Spraying for Rain

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

I'm not able to get to Courtney's advice on the BDA pages tonight.

Can someone tell me the next best date for sequential spraying for 
promoting rain here in Northern Virginia?

thanks

-Allan




Re: ADMIN: Text only posts

2002-08-21 Thread Jane Sherry



> From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:18:27 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ADMIN: Text only posts
> 
> Rex is probably correct here. Can posters set their software to send
> text only messages and NO HTML in the future?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -Allan
> 
I had it set in the new system for plain text and didn't change it to html
until today for a test of something else & have turned it back to plain
text. 

Posts that are sent to GlobalNews are often sent originally as HTML. Perhaps
this is the source of the problem for some people?

Jane.




Compost Tea List

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

What's with the compost tea list?

It seemed like it was going to be the be-all and end-all of 
sustainable organic agriculture. Instead its this very unsatisfying 
hurdy-gurdy. Nothing flows.

Worse, Elaine is virtually totally absent (of course, she's probably 
been lost in OZ recently)

My question to CT list people: do I only feel like I'm only receiving 
half of the messages that must be sent to the list, or is there some 
Gison 'cut up' aspect to it?

Market Farming went through a similar 'conversion' a few years back. 
A couple of weeks of being the best grower's list imaginable and now 
a fairly mundane group of people.

While I'm at it, what in the world has happened to SANET in the last few years?

I'm happy to take this opportunity to thank contributers to BD Now! 
for the many hours that they put in at their keyboards to support BD 
Now!  Thanks to the hundreds of 'lurkers' who continue to give BD 
Now! it's sense of 'presence.'

-Allan


>here is my experience with compost tea list. Which was once
>here and working OK  - I have tried to no avail to get connected since they
>moved - I just wasted another hour and a half this morning - the yahoo site
>is a clutter of commercial rubbish, every time I tried to get on I was told
>someone else was already using my name and login and I should go away and
>think up another one - I finally got in this morning (I thought) then
>couldnt find the archive - the whole thing has been frustrating and if I
>eventually succeed the site is a mess of other stuff and slow to operate as
>well. So hang in there we have got a good thing going with this list
>Cheers all
>Lloyd Charles




Re: Not Stripped Attachments

2002-08-21 Thread Roger Pye

Lloyd Charles wrote:

>Hi Allan  and other list members
>
>This is all working good for me too. I have had no problems with the
>workings of this list at any stage since joining  (fell off a couple of
>times but the archive is open to all so its a simple matter to keep up via
>archive until you are reinstated) and I would like to congratulate Allan for
>setting this up . Its simple, open, free of advertising garbage and other
>assorted internet junk, and best of all it works!
>So for any of you that are maybe a bit cheesed off of late by the
>"strippings" here is my experience with compost tea list. Which was once
>here and working OK  - I have tried to no avail to get connected since they
>moved - I just wasted another hour and a half this morning - the yahoo site
>is a clutter of commercial rubbish, every time I tried to get on I was told
>someone else was already using my name and login and I should go away and
>think up another one - I finally got in this morning (I thought) then
>couldnt find the archive - the whole thing has been frustrating and if I
>eventually succeed the site is a mess of other stuff and slow to operate as
>well. So hang in there we have got a good thing going with this list
>
I don't think anyone's complaining about the list set-up, Lloyd, 
certainly I'm not.  It is frustrating when I go to read a message and 
there's nothing there but it would not make me quit as a member, and I 
don't think it would anyone else. I'd just like to find out why this 
glitch is occurring and there's no harm in that.

roger




Re: FW: [globalnews] The Book of Nature

2002-08-21 Thread Gil Robertson

Allan, this is how they look. This just came in.

Jane Sherry wrote:

> ***> ATTACHMENT AUTOMATICALLY REMOVED! <**




Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Gil Robertson

Hi! Allan,
All I get is the message, no content. Still happening to day.

Gil

Allan Balliett wrote:

> I'm assuming that BD Now! people are not receiving ANY of message content.
>
> (Ain't language grand?)
>
> What is it folks?
>
> -Allan




Re: Not Stripped Attachments

2002-08-21 Thread Lloyd Charles

Allan wrote
> I've been asked to ask the list how many people are receiving their
> mail just fine?
>
> i'm not having problem with either of my accounts.
>
> As you probably know, BD Now! 'originates' remote from me and I
> subscribe just like anyone else.
> -Allan
>
Hi Allan  and other list members

This is all working good for me too. I have had no problems with the
workings of this list at any stage since joining  (fell off a couple of
times but the archive is open to all so its a simple matter to keep up via
archive until you are reinstated) and I would like to congratulate Allan for
setting this up . Its simple, open, free of advertising garbage and other
assorted internet junk, and best of all it works!
So for any of you that are maybe a bit cheesed off of late by the
"strippings" here is my experience with compost tea list. Which was once
here and working OK  - I have tried to no avail to get connected since they
moved - I just wasted another hour and a half this morning - the yahoo site
is a clutter of commercial rubbish, every time I tried to get on I was told
someone else was already using my name and login and I should go away and
think up another one - I finally got in this morning (I thought) then
couldnt find the archive - the whole thing has been frustrating and if I
eventually succeed the site is a mess of other stuff and slow to operate as
well. So hang in there we have got a good thing going with this list
Cheers all
Lloyd Charles




ADMIN: Text only posts

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

Rex is probably correct here. Can posters set their software to send 
text only messages and NO HTML in the future?

Thanks

-Allan

>
>IMO... good on the new software! Lets keep the archives and
>download times lean and mean by switching our emailers to TEXT
>only. My version of Pegasus emailer does that by default. ;-)
>
>HTH... Rex




Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENTS

2002-08-21 Thread Roger Pye

Rex Teague wrote:

>
>IMO... good on the new software! Lets keep the archives and 
>download times lean and mean by switching our emailers to TEXT 
>only. My version of Pegasus emailer does that by default. ;-)
>
There are two possible causes.

First, it may be an anti-virus thing. If you look at the Norton site 
(www.symantec.com) for instance  as I have just done, the latest edition 
- Norton's Anti Virus 2003 - automatically detects and blocks viruses in 
incoming emails. So if an ISP is using Nortons or  equivalent AV 
software with the same features, the emails go through with the viruses 
blocked - ie, unable to do any harm to the enduser system. Similarly if 
the enduser's AV software detects and blocks viruses automatically, the 
same thing will happen. Unfortunately, the virus-blocking also takes the 
rest of the email off the screen so the only way to read it is to look 
at 'Message Source' or equivalent in the main menu.

Second, it may simply be updated earthlink list software. All the 
attachment messages forwarded from globalnews before 17 Aug have the 
message text in plain english followed by an HTML version. All those 
forwarded after that date (when I suspect earthlink updated its 
software) have  the plain english text followed by a few lines of 
ordinary code then "ATTACHMENT AUTOMATICALLY REMOVED" followed by 
another line of ordinary code.

Roger





Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies

2002-08-21 Thread James Hedley

Dear Markess,
I had put your email away so that I had time to try and digest it and make
sense of the data. I dont understand what you are trying to get at or how I
could use it in the form that you have written it.
For instance what do you mean by this set of potencies,
Harmonics - potencies of 1M to 21M *
> Amplitude - 6X & 7X
> Velocity - 28X & 30X
> Mode - 26X  29X  33X  47X  54X  69X  72X  79X
> Number - 3X
When I understand what you are trying to get at we could discuss the rest of
the potencies that you suggest.
Have a good day
Janmes Hedley

- Original Message -
From: "Moen Creek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies


> Dear Listers,
> inspired by
>
> James Hedley's wonderious post of
>
> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 20:06:39 +1000
>
> I looked to a basic level of remedies & potencies.
> We're are not reductionest. Potencies are not doing the work but help
> balance and organize energy field patterns. To get caught up in a
> "misappropriation of cause" is the point of departure between the Vitalist
> and the rock hard "scientist".
>
> When we add a potencized anything to an energy field there are effects &
> affects on multiple areas/levels or maybe none at all. But it is an
organism
> and it's field that is doing the work.
>
> So what are the aspects these remedies action on fields. Hugh wrote a
> Whitman'esk list at one time of field adjustments and variables. I have
> followed some with the potencies I "see" as influencing this aspect.
>
> A field has,
>
> Hertz
> Harmonics - potencies of 1M to 21M *
> Amplitude - 6X & 7X
> Velocity - 28X & 30X
> Mode - 26X  29X  33X  47X  54X  69X  72X  79X
> Number - 3X
> Periodicity - 200C (rhythmical actions of plants including flowering &
> fruiting)
> Polarization - 1m - 21M *
> Direction - Towards center is 200K - Towards the periphery 1K -100K
>
> *the differences here is in the handedness of the remedy
> Harmonics are adjusted with Left handedness and polarization by Right
> handedness
> (your input is most welcome as whether this means type ie hamering,
shaking
> stiring to potencize or what.
> For me it is a Radionic rate added to creating the potency
> 32.25-51.25 sets it as Left handed
> 51.25-32.25 set it as Right
>
> Fields also have
> Flux
> Defractions
> Reflections
> Interactions
> Absorption
> Synchronicity
> Dimensions
> can be Conditioned
> Activated
> and Templated
>
> What say's you?
>
> In Love & Light
> Markess
> 
>
> Dear list,
> The problems with the work of Lili and Eugen Kolisko is that all the work
> that I have seen never resolved an optimum potency which was common to all
> plant or agricultural work. Potentisation rates of homoeopathic remedies
is
> not an exact science that says that if you use this potency you will get
> this result. even amongst homoeopathic chat lists there is no common
> acceptance that this , or that potency is better than another, it just
that
> this person used this remedy at this potency and achieved this result. As
a
> general rule the greater the similarity to the drug picture the higher
> potency that you will use, the smaller the dose the more beneficial the
> results.
> The potencies for agricultural elimination use will  be far different to
> those potencies used  for enhancing life force. Even potencies are only
> really applicable for that particular time in that particular situation..
> The question is what potency will achieve the result that i am looking for
> with the minimum amount of substance.
> Peter Rheumkoff has removed white ants from a house by broadcasting a
pepper
> at LMM potency.
> (snip)
> When you are using spiritual forces to counteract something, the greatest
> source of knowledge of the effects of your work will come from the
spiritual
> realms. Follow your guidance as to what the optimum potency would be.
> I have tried at other times to get people on the list to discuss what they
> are doing potency wise with their preps. I have used BD preps at potencies
> of up to CM [a dilution of 1/1000 done 100 times] with great results.
> There are three effective methods of checking potencies:
>
> 1.] The use of a radionic analysis instrument such as a Don Mattioda or
> Malcolm Rae instrument, a Bio Photon instrument,  a Bruce Copen or an SE-7
> will all give an automatic reading of potencies.Use of a radionic
instrument
> will give you an exact potency reading. They will give you a reading of
> vitality which you can use to compare the effects of different potencies
or
> treatment options.
> 2.] The use of a refractometer to test the effects of what you are doing.
> This method is promoted by people such as Arden Andersen and Phillip
Wheeler
> 3.] The use of dowsing. As accurate as any radionic instrument.(snip)
>
> In many cases the correct rate, or alternatively potency rate could be the
> subject of intellectual property which someone may not wan

Re: Koliskos

2002-08-21 Thread James Hedley

Dear David,
I missed not seeing you at the AGM. The question of of whether it is
necessary to add physical lime could be easily resolved by the use of
radionic analysis, by testing the vitality of soil samples with physical
lime added. Then testing the vitality of portion of the same soil sample
with radionically potentised lime, and then testing another portion of the
sample with lime and radionically prepared lime together.
I will do this and post the results.
Regards
James

- Original Message -
From: "D & S Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BDNOW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Koliskos


> Chapter 1 Quote.
> "The lime works much more powerfully 9 we use a minute quantity. Whenever
we
> have to introduce lime into the soil we need not dig in a ,'large
> quantity of the solid matter, but spray a certain potency carefully
> on the surface of the soil.
>
> It is an easy, and a very economical way of helping the soil which is
> lacking in lime."
>
> At the wizards workshop it was stressed by some speakers that homeopathic
> applications of lime had to be backed up by actually physically spreading
> lime, in view of the recent discussion on "rich father poor son' effect of
> spreading lime, is the homeopathic application only a short term measure?
> For example will homeopathic lime change the readings of an Albrecht soil
> test. Would I be correct in assuming that homeopathic applications of
other
> elements such as phosphorus and potassium would similar to calcium in
their
> effect. Sorry if sounds confused but I am.
>
> The Kolisko experiment mentions only the sprouting of seeds. No long term
> effects, perhaps it is expanded on further in the book.
> David C
>
>
>




Re: Smallest Entities in Agriculture

2002-08-21 Thread James Hedley

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Re: BD 501 (formerly Lime and Humus)

2002-08-21 Thread James Hedley

Dear Virginia,
I cannot tell you yet exactly how Silica works in controlling thistles. When
I do the list will be first to know.
My suspicion is that the ability of Silica to unlock mineralisation has
removed the need for the thistles. At present time I dont have any thistles
on the farm to experiment with, those that are there are only small rosettes
which are half dead. I suppose that one could test the mineralisation in the
plant before spraying with 501, and then at various periods afterwards but I
dont have the facilities to do this.
Have a good day
James

- Original Message -
From: "Virginia Salares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: BD 501 (formerly Lime and Humus)


> James,
>
> Please elaborate on how silica (BD 501)prevents thistles from growing.
>
> Virginia
> - Original Message -
> From: "James Hedley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Lime and Humus
>
>
> > Dear Hugh et al,
> > Silica is the unsung hero of the BD preps. It was not until using BD 501
> > that we observed the real potential of the BD method.  It even stops
> > thistles from growing and what are left are being grazed out in the
> drought
> > by the local colony of kangaroos, they know good healthy food when they
> > taste it.
> > You have maintained that 501 is an atmospheric prep. From my
understanding
> > you think that it develops the formative patterns in the atmosphere.
That
> > may very well be true but Silica has the unique ability of repairing
> > functionally impaired cells by enabling them to throw off inimical
> > substances.It also has in Clarke's Materia Medica [p. 1175];
> > "constitutions which suffer from deficient nutrition due to assimilating
> > power". Even if they never used any other of the BD preps in
conventional
> > farming the use of Silica to dissolve the phosphorus which has become
> bound
> > up in silicates should be common practice on all farms. The money in the
> > Phosphorus bank if released will save many farms from financial
ruin.This
> > has been proved by the CSIRO at Mackay during research work into the
> control
> > of Orange Rust in sugar cane. A study of  Materia Medica is important to
> get
> > the feel of what the realm of activity of substances as could be seen
from
> > study of Silica.. One of the roles of  501 is to allow the plant to
> > assimilate nutrients from the soil.
> > Have a great day.
> > James
> >
> >  - Original Message -
> > From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: Lime and Humus
> >
> >
> > > James, et. al.,
> > >
> > > There's nothing like silica for making lime available. Read pages 30
> > > through 33 of Steiner's AGRICULTURE (Lecture Two). Many, many low pH
> soils
> > > have limestone beneath them. The previous post (below) seems an
inspired
> > > method for bringing up the lime. Horn clay should also be able to play
a
> > > role in this. It might be a big help, particularly in sandy soils.
> > >
> > > I Florida where most of the soils lack clay there commonly is 60 or
more
> > > feet (20 meters or so) of sand at the surface and beneath that are
> > > limestone and phosphate deposits. This is the result of lime and
> phosphate
> > > filtering down through the sand over the eons in this high rainfall
> > > climate. This happens particularly in winter when minerals have the
> > > greatest tendency to crystalize and precipitate. In Steiner's words,
".
> .
> > .
> > > if we are dealing with a soil that does not carry these influences
> upward
> > > during the winter as it should, it is good to furnish the soil with
some
> > > clay, the dosage of which I will indicate later."
> > >
> > > As many of us know, Steiner did not later indicate this dosage, nor
any
> > > more than barely hint at how it might be prepared or administered.
There
> > is
> > > a brief mention in Lecture Four, page 74 of using orthoclase or
> feldspar,
> > > which are parent materials for clay, to make the horn silica remedy,
and
> > (I
> > > haven't found it now, it may have been in one of the discussions) he
> also
> > > mentioned capping off the open end of the horn with clay. Presumably
had
> > > Steiner lived longer this would have come out.
> > >
> > > Now, however, we are faced with progressive farmers experimenting with
> > horn
> > > clay while stricter Steiner preservationists cry, "Steiner didn't say
> > > that." and "That's not BD!" Personally I don't care what we call it as
> > long
> > > as we elucidate the scientific principles Steiner tried to open our
eyes
> > to.
> > >
> > > On one very well run Australian farm in New South Wales the farmer was
> > > showing me a stratum of sandy limestone an inch or two thick that was
> > > exposed in a gully and was a meter or a little less below the surface
of
> > > the field. "That didn't used to be there when I 

Fw: No STRIPPED ATTACHMENT

2002-08-21 Thread mroboz

I am receiving many "STRIPPED ATTACHMENT" messages and I also live in
Canada.  Michael
- Original Message -
From: "Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: No STRIPPED ATTACHMENT


>
> - Original Message -
> From: Katherine Griebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:49 AM
> Subject: Fw: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: :
>
> > Hi,
> >   I am not receiving any STRIPPED ATTACHMENT  messages.  I am
> > receiving the attachments from Jane.  I use Outlook Express and I live
in
> > Canada.
> >
> > Kathy Griebel
>
> Hi Allan
>  Mine is working same as Kathy 'cept I live in Australia
>Lloyd Charles
>
> ps (for Jane) I delete anything with an attachment unless I have a prior
> arrangement with the sender
>
>
>
>




Re: No STRIPPED ATTACHMENT

2002-08-21 Thread Lloyd Charles


- Original Message -
From: Katherine Griebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:49 AM
Subject: Fw: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: :

> Hi,
>   I am not receiving any STRIPPED ATTACHMENT  messages.  I am
> receiving the attachments from Jane.  I use Outlook Express and I live in
> Canada.
>
> Kathy Griebel

Hi Allan
 Mine is working same as Kathy 'cept I live in Australia
   Lloyd Charles

ps (for Jane) I delete anything with an attachment unless I have a prior
arrangement with the sender





Re: Not Stripped Attachments

2002-08-21 Thread Rex Teague

On 21 Aug 02, Allan Balliett wrote:

> I've been asked to ask the list how many people are receiving their
> mail just fine?

No problems here, no empty emails in my BDnow email folder.

My suggestion is the new server software is stripping out the HTML 
bloat that the mainstream email software insists on sending and 
reading by default setup. When I inspect the raw message data of the 
posts that have caused conternation with other listees, there is a 
telltale end of line marker that indicates that the text was part of a 
MIME post, the HTML code isn't there.

IMO... good on the new software! Lets keep the archives and 
download times lean and mean by switching our emailers to TEXT 
only. My version of Pegasus emailer does that by default. ;-)

HTH... Rex




Re: Taking another step.

2002-08-21 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD


- Original Message -
From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: Taking another step.




> At the Mid-Atlantic BD conference you will receive exposure to
> leading farming ideas that lie just outside of the ring of
> biodynamics, such a Elaine Ingham on the Soil Foodweb and Jerry
> Brunetti on Albrecht and Reams approaches to soil health. Lots of
> other great speakers, also. http://www.gardeningforthefuture.com

 Hi Allan I went to an Elaine Ingham  Soil Food Web seminar on the weekend.
wow 7 hours of fantastic information. it was so interesting that I did not
have time to nod of in the afternoon session.
 What I liked about it , is that it is so simple and easy to use , and is
technologically competetive in this tecno driven world and backed with sound
scientific reasoning.
To me it is a very valuable tool  that can be added to small scale intensive
growing especially Flower growing  and if you couple this with CEC
balancing of the soils , and add to it BD wow what a foundation for some
super crops this is about working smarter not harder.
I am just in the process of setting up a 50 litre brewer and will be using
worm compost and Steve Storch's barrel compost recipe and using the brix
meter to monitor and changes.
I had a brief discussion with Elaine  and she was quite excited about the BD
preps in private. she indicated that the difference preps  indicated
differences between fungal and bacterial activity. She indicated that the
test results will be ready for your conference. Privately I felt that she
was quite excited about this.
Elaine is also very interested in learning more about BD  and maybe looking
at better ways to describe BD to farmers. For example she is trying to work
out how to explain the terms etheric and astral  to red neck farmers.
Allan maybe at this conference you, Glen and Hugh could quietly indoctrinate
her in the BD philosophy she would be  superb ambassador.
Just I thought .
 Cheers Tony Robinson
Land Down Under




Re: Ferdy for Australia & New Zealand

2002-08-21 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD




> Dear Allan,
> I will be in Australia and New Zealand from January 13th 2003 until
> February 27th, 2003. Are there any connections you know of where I could
> learn more about BD down'under? All the best Ferdinand
> --
>
>
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>
Hi Ferdy If you are travelling by road to the South Island  you go right
past my gate . Do call in for a cuppa tea . email address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cheers Tony Robinson
Rambler Flowers
86 The Avenue
levin
New Zealand




Attachements

2002-08-21 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD

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Re: Me Too! Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'SmallestEntities In Agriculture'and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Vere Scott

Thanks Allan,

For your attention to this and for your personal communication with me. 
Much appreciated.

Best regards,

Vere Scott

Allan Balliett wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >Allan, I would say this is an anti-virus program/firewall routine in
> >the list software working overtime.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Roger
> 
> Thanks for investigating Roger. The strange thing remains that myself
> and others are receiving the messages ok, so I've got to think that
> the stripping is occurring somewhere on the path to you who are
> affected and not coming from earthlink.
> 
> I have forwarded your information and the rest to earthlink. Let's
> hope they et back to us soon.
> 
> Thanks and patience!
> 
> -Allan




TOOLS was Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'SmallestEntities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

>I read this to Curtis, Allan & he says right on!

Another difference between a tool and a machine is that a tool 
extends human school and a machine requires humans to adapt to its 
interface, be it a drill press or badly written OS.

But why, did you turn to Curtis for confirmation of this one? ;-)

-Allan




Re: Me Too! Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'SmallestEntities In Agriculture'and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

Again - this doesn't really have anything to do with attacments, does 
it? Isn't it just messages randomly being clipped?

>>Regularly since 17 August. The last attachment I received was 12 August.
>>
>>roger
>>
>Me too, Allan.  Surely it can't be an ISP thing, as we're on so many 
>different ones?
>Is there any way we can opt either to receive attachments or have 
>them stripped, as part of the Subscribe request? 
>Tony N-S.
>
>
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Re: Taking another step.

2002-08-21 Thread Patti Berg

Thanks for the suggestions, Gil.  I have subscribed to Acres USA.  I'm finally
organizing a plan of attack here. As soon as I arrange my compass I'll "fire
off".  Appreciate it much.

Patti.


Gil Robertson wrote:

> Hi! Patti,
> Could I suggest you subscribe to Acres USA. Over time it will cover every
> subject you can think about. Go to  and you will find the
> offer of a free copy and how to subscribe. Ask for a book catalogue and you
> will find a treasure house of information.
>
> For starters, I suggest two books by Hugh Lovel on this list. His "A
> Biodynamic Farm" is available from Acres USA and for the other,
> "Agricultural Renewal", contact Hugh, possibly through his Web Site.
>
> I wish you well and if there are some non site specific questions, feel free
> to fire them at me off line.
>
> Gil
> Port Lincoln, Australia
>




Re: Taking Another Step

2002-08-21 Thread Patti Berg

Merla,

Thanks for the suggestions.  I have a lot of studying to do and this will
help.

Patti.

Merla Barberie wrote:

> Hi Patty,
>
> I was too much of a neophyte too when I first came on BD Now.  What I
> did was save all the emails to categories on disks and when I learned
> what they were talking about, I reread my disks and understood a lot
> more.
>
> I'm doing this now with Compost Teas list/serve.  Many of the people are
> professional.  They design compost tea makers or they have a business
> with golf courses and large acreages.  The compost tea makers are huge
> and expensive and mechanical designers really need to share technical
> data.
>
> I wanted to share my little knowledge of making compost tea in our "Why
> Organic?" fairbooth this coming week and was not succeeding in borrowing
> a small professional teamaker because of logistics.  Finally after my
> umpteenth email, the Webmaster, Jeff, sent me a link for beginners that
> told how to rig a simple aerator on a 5 gallon bucket.  I could do this!
>
> The terra cotta pots and wet peat moss are for storing little tiny
> ziplocks of Bio-Dynamic preparations.  It is most important to keep the
> organisms in the prep alive.  I have a big pot with moss in it, but
> SStorch's message just informed me for the first time that I should have
> wet the moss.  I've probably killed everything because it's really arid
> here in August even in my root cellar.
>
> Just hang in and enjoy all these people from all over the world.
>
> Best,
>
> Merla
>




Re: FW: [globalnews] How Farmers Stopped Mexico's New InternationalAirport From Being Built

2002-08-21 Thread Patti Berg

I got another auto remove.
Patti.

Jane Sherry wrote:

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Fw: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Katherine Griebel

Hi,

  I am not receiving any STRIPPED ATTACHMENT  messages.  I am
receiving the attachments from Jane.  I use Outlook Express and I live in
Canada.

Kathy Griebel

- Original Message -
From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In
Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)


>In some cases when I forward things from GlobalNews, a photo will be
>attached to the file I receive from my GlobalNews mailing and before I
>forward those mssg's with attached files, I delete the file first. So
>perhaps, that's why the message appears about a stripped attachment.
>
>Jane

I'm assuming that BD Now! people are not receiving ANY of message content.

(Ain't language grand?)

What is it folks?

-Allan





Re: Me Too! Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities InAgriculture'and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Tony Nelson-Smith


>Regularly since 17 August. The last attachment I received was 12 August.
>
>roger
>
Me too, Allan.  Surely it can't be an ISP thing, as we're on so many 
different ones?
Is there any way we can opt either to receive attachments or have them 
stripped, as part of the Subscribe request?  Tony N-S.


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Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Jane Sherry

I read this to Curtis, Allan & he says right on!


> From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 09:11:18 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In
> Agriculture'  and  The Calcium   Process in Nature (long 6 pages)
> 
> nah, nah, Jane.
> 
> A Mac is a tool and an IBM is a machine.
> 
> Machines are Ahrimanic and tools, well, my friend, tools are Divine.
> 
> -Allan
> 




Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Patti Berg

I wasn't receiving message content on a few messages but now everything
appears back to normal.

Patti.

Allan Balliett wrote:

> >In some cases when I forward things from GlobalNews, a photo will be
> >attached to the file I receive from my GlobalNews mailing and before I
> >forward those mssg's with attached files, I delete the file first. So
> >perhaps, that's why the message appears about a stripped attachment.
> >
> >Jane
>
> I'm assuming that BD Now! people are not receiving ANY of message content.
>
> (Ain't language grand?)
>
> What is it folks?
>
> -Allan




Re: Ferdy for Australia & New Zealand

2002-08-21 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus

Hi Ferdy,
  There are several of us on the list. I'm in the Tauranga area.
Call me a bit closser to the time so something can be organised.
Cheers,
Peter.
- Original Message -
From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 2:13 AM
Subject: Ferdy for Australia & New Zealand


> Dear Allan,
> I will be in Australia and New Zealand from January 13th 2003 until
> February 27th, 2003. Are there any connections you know of where I could
> learn more about BD down'under? All the best Ferdinand
> --
>
>
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RE: Not Stripped Attachments

2002-08-21 Thread Trem, Chris

Allan, I have not had any stripped attachments. 
All emails are coming through with no problems.
-Chris

-Original Message-
From: Allan Balliett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Not Stripped Attachments


I've been asked to ask the list how many people are receiving their 
mail just fine?

i'm not having problem with either of my accounts.

As you probably know, BD Now! 'originates' remote from me and I 
subscribe just like anyone else.


-Allan




Ferdy for Australia & New Zealand

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

Dear Allan,
I will be in Australia and New Zealand from January 13th 2003 until
February 27th, 2003. Are there any connections you know of where I could
learn more about BD down'under? All the best Ferdinand
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Not Stripped Attachments

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

I've been asked to ask the list how many people are receiving their 
mail just fine?

i'm not having problem with either of my accounts.

As you probably know, BD Now! 'originates' remote from me and I 
subscribe just like anyone else.


-Allan




Re: Me Too! Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture'and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Bonnie York


On Wednesday, August 21, 2002, at 03:37 AM, Allan Balliett wrote:

>>
>>
>> Allan, I would say this is an anti-virus program/firewall routine in 
>> the list software working overtime.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Roger
>
> Thanks for investigating Roger. The strange thing remains that myself 
> and others are receiving the messages ok, so I've got to think that the 
> stripping is occurring somewhere on the path to you who are affected 
> and not coming from earthlink.

My husband is the computer geek in the family and I asked him if he had 
any ideas.

If earthlink  has changed or updated their anti-virus or firewall 
software they may have reverted to the default settings which may be 
more secure.

Still receiving messages with attachment  removed message.

Bonnie




Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

nah, nah, Jane.

A Mac is a tool and an IBM is a machine.

Machines are Ahrimanic and tools, well, my friend, tools are Divine.

-Allan




FW: [globalnews] The Book of Nature

2002-08-21 Thread Jane Sherry

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Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Jane Sherry


All of the messages others are having problems with are coming in fine on my
computer which leads me to think there may be some kind of a virus going
around the list. I just switched computer platforms back to mac from pc's
and I used to get a lot () of viruses coming thru this list. One of them
(I think Lloyd mentioned having this & I hope he deleted it and didn't open
it) is the Snow White ha ha ha virus.

I can't really think of too many more reasons to switch platforms despite
the advertising Mr. Jobs is blasting us with lately. Sorry, Allan, I think
both platforms are equally Ahrimanic. I'm with Storch on this one: get thee
to do my bidding Mr. Ahriman...


Jane

> 
> I'm assuming that BD Now! people are not receiving ANY of message content.
> 
> (Ain't language grand?)
> 
> What is it folks?
> 
> -Allan
> 




Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

>In some cases when I forward things from GlobalNews, a photo will be
>attached to the file I receive from my GlobalNews mailing and before I
>forward those mssg's with attached files, I delete the file first. So
>perhaps, that's why the message appears about a stripped attachment.
>
>Jane

I'm assuming that BD Now! people are not receiving ANY of message content.

(Ain't language grand?)

What is it folks?

-Allan




Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities InAgriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Jane Sherry


> PS I have just found a attachment to Janes post on "World Healing day"
> saying that an attachment had been stripped. Is there a virus at work?

In some cases when I forward things from GlobalNews, a photo will be
attached to the file I receive from my GlobalNews mailing and before I
forward those mssg's with attached files, I delete the file first. So
perhaps, that's why the message appears about a stripped attachment.

Jane

 




Re: Me Too! Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on 'SmallestEntities In Agriculture'and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

>
>
>Allan, I would say this is an anti-virus program/firewall routine in 
>the list software working overtime.
>
>Cheers
>
>Roger

Thanks for investigating Roger. The strange thing remains that myself 
and others are receiving the messages ok, so I've got to think that 
the stripping is occurring somewhere on the path to you who are 
affected and not coming from earthlink.

I have forwarded your information and the rest to earthlink. Let's 
hope they et back to us soon.

Thanks and patience!

-Allan




SALATIN was Re: Taking another step.

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

>Now this sounds great.  I've been doing some research on Joel Salatin and
>Polyface Farm.  I like his concepts.  Thanks for the tip Allan.
>
>Patti.
>p.s. below is an excerpt from an interview done with Joel Salatin that I
>found particularly interesting.

Yes, Joel is astounding. His ideas are so straight forward and 
practial and INEXPENSIVE, and yet they've been overlooked by most of 
us. LAYERING of enterprise allows him to extract several times the 
typical local annual income per acre and all the while he is building 
better pastures and soils through his practices.

Better than that, Joel wants to see every farmer working like this 
and every household eating fresh, clean, locally grown meats and 
eggs, so he is willing to share EVERYTHING about his operation.

A rare one: an evangelist who has developed a very effective 
demonstration plot of his own before he hit the road telling other 
people what they should do! ;-)

Come on out, folks. It's free and Joel is setting aside a lot of time 
for questions and answers. PLUS, there's a free feed that will 
include not only Joel's fine meat and eggs but also Chile Man's 
famous sauces and salsas.

What more do we need to offer you? ;-)

-Allan




Re: Me Too! Re: STRIPPED ATTACHMENT Re: : Koliskos on'SmallestEntities In Agriculture'and The Calcium Process in Nature(long 6 pages)

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

>Allan,
>
>I'd say it started about one week ago, less than two weeks.  I got
>concerned enough to contact you last Friday or Saturday.  Certainly it was
>on a minority of bdnow posts and I neglected to notice if it was happening
>to a certain type of post.  I think whoever said it was on the subject of
>Koliskos.
>
>Vere
>
>Allan Balliett wrote:
>>
>>  >Me too!  Regularly.
>>  >
>>  >Vere Scott
>>
>>  Regularly since when? -Allan

Just for the record, since it's come up a couple of times, Vere, I 
responded to your message on Saturday with the (rather useless) 
following:

At 1:55 PM -0400 8/17/02, Allan Balliett wrote:
>Vere - I have no idea. It's something at your ISP. no attachments 
>s.b. sent to BD Now!, of course, so I don't know what's happening on 
>your end. -Allan
>
>>I'm receiving quite a few of these "ATTACHMENT AUTOMATICALLY REMOVED!"
>>messages.  I don't understand.  What does it, mean?  Who removed it?  Why?
>>
>>Moen Creek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
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>>
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>Vere Scott
>




RESEND: FW: [globalnews] How Farmers Stopped Mexico's NewInternational Airport From Being Built

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett



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August 20, 2002

Narco News '02

How the Victory at

Atenco Was Won

The Death of the Texcoco Airport

...and the Struggle Goes On and On

By Maria Botey Pascual

Special to the Narco News Bulletin



With Historic Photos of Insurgent Mexico

By Tina Modotti

Part I of a series

On August 1, the Mexican people won a new victory against the corrupt and
authoritarian system that still rules this country, a victory of
international proportions against the advance of neoliberal looting of the
most humble for the economic enrichment of the greedy.

With the precedents of the struggles that halted the golf club in Tepoztlán,
Morelos, or that stopped the hydroelectric project in Alto Balsas, Guerrero,
among others, and above all the light that was turned on by the Zapatista
uprising beginning in 1994 in Chiapas, the people of the former lake of
Texcoco, with those of San Salvador Atenco as the spear, had the courage to
say it anew: "Enough Already!"

They took another step to stop the abuses by those who govern, in a process
that unmasked the political simulation by three levels of government (that
hide, of course, behind the supposed "rule of law"), awakened consciences
and gave root to a new force in the fight for a more just world, where there
ought to be a balanced distribution of wealth and governmental authorities
must allow a role for the true representatives of society.

On October 21, 2001, in the morning's first hour, the church bells rang
throughout the affected towns to announce the terrible news: A large part of
their lands had passed into government hands through an eminent domain
decree that had, as its goal, the construction of a new International
Airport in Mexico.

With an investment, in its first phase, of $2.8 billion dollars, they tried
to build a giant infrastructure for an airport on 5,400 hectares straddling
three towns: Atenco, Texcoco and Chimalhuacán, the first was the most
affected in terms of the percent of land expropriated (70-percent), where
some of its inhabitants would lose almost all of their crops as well as many
of their houses.

Tearful, but also enraged and indignant because they had not been consulted
on the matter - in violation of Chapter V of Mexico's Article 115 governing
municipal governments and land use - hundreds of townspeople blocked the
road between Lechería and Texcoco for various hours on that same morning.
They were armed with sticks, stones and machetes, the rural tool used by the
multitudes in these latitudes that became the symbol of this struggle. The
slogan during nine months of conflict was: "We will not give up our land,
even if it means giving up our lives."

Anyone who investigates the causes of this spontaneous and generalized
attitude against the construction of this airport project will hear many
reasons that converged in a word - Dignity! - a word that emerged from each
mouth, youth, adult or elder. Behind it, the famous phrase of Emiliano
Zapata: "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees," and
the histories of the struggle by Pancho Villa and he, of the communiqués of
the 1970s guerrilla movement articulated by Lucio Cabañas and Genero
Vásquez, and of the words of Subcommandante Marcos and the indigenous of
Chiapas, the most recent Mexicans to turn the world downside-up again.

The most basic is "The land is life, because it feeds us." In spite of being
one of the most forgotten regions in the Valley of México, the inhabitants
of the land that once held, before the conquest, the great green lake of
Texcoco, they have survived by farming, raising domestic animals,
cultivating corn, beans, lima beans, string beans, alfalfa, barley, wheat,
carrots, squash, onion, tomato, lettuce, and also wild plants like
verdolagas, quelites, quintoniles, hollyhock and rosemary, and medicinal
plants that above all are utilized and understood by the women, and they
have produced all this at a level more or less equal to their level of
consumption.



They spent more than eighty years recuperating this former lake bottom
yard-by-yard - using ashes and dung (and without government aid) - the salty
lands were delivered at the end of the Revolution, with its history of blood
spilt for "Land and Liberty" (beforehand the zone belonged to just five
gigantic haciendas), lands that were passed on from ancestors to
grandparents who, bequeathing their parcels, said, "Never ever sell it, the
land is worth more than gold."

Faced with the seizure of their lands, the farmer men and women asked
themselves: "We're already poor. If they take away the land, how will we
eat? Where are they going to send us to live? Will there be water in those
lands? If they send us to other lands will be able to take those lands from
us, too? Will they rob other farmers for the lands where they put us? If
they send us to the city, how will we live, when all we know how to do is
farm the land? Will we be able 

RESEND: Koliskos: The Calcium Process in Nature

2002-08-21 Thread Allan Balliett

BdNow'ers,

<<<  In reply to L. Charles's past message about Chapter X. >>>

I'm re-sending this post because it is possible that the last time it 
got <> from the thread.  This time I'm sending the 'smallest 
entity' format.


Chapter X THE CALCIUM PROCESS IN NATURE

I  like the concept of going back in earth's geohistories for gaining 
a deeper understanding of minerals and how they interact with life 
organisms.

Kolisko plunges all the way back to the "archaic" ; a geological term 
where old layers are void of any fossils.  His statement that the 
whole of earthly matter was living substance, reminds me of the Gaia 
hypothesis; that earth is a living organism.  The slight difference 
being that back then it was in a liquid state.

We can go even further back into time!  Anthroposophy teaches us that 
in ancient times the sun, earth, and the moon were united into one 
single cosmic body.  The moon being inside the earth, and earth being 
inside the sun.  At the time earth's atmosphere contained prussic 
acid and carbonic acid.  What's also interesting is that humans lived 
there, not corporeally, rather as spirits.  When the earth separated 
from the sun we received nitrogen from prussic acid, and oxygen from 
carbonic acid.   This is way nitrogen is a sun element, and oxygen 
belongs to the moon.  As for the origin of carbon, it also comes from 
the sun and moon.  She left us coal inside the soil (formed from 
carbonic acid) and carbon in the exterior, and he left us small 
quantities of carbon that lives in plants.  Calcium was excreted from 
the sun and gave us lime.

Kolisko also mentions that:  "... If we want to understand calcium as 
a substance,then we must observe, for instance, how it slowly 
crystallizes out of the water...".   My feeling is that we should 
perhaps try this experiment in January and February, when earth's 
crystallization forces are in full effect.

I agree with the statement that: "... We must grasp the whole 
process: the silica-process, the calcium-process, the 
sulphur-process, the nitrogen-process, etc.; a "process" embraces 
much more than substance alone.".  For me, this is the essence of 
Anthroposophy, BD farming, and gaining spiritual knowledge.

Your turn,

Robin




Re: Koliskos: The Calcium Process in Nature

2002-08-21 Thread Gil Robertson

Here is yet another

Gil

Robin Duchesneau wrote:

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