Earth at Night

2002-12-24 Thread Merla Barberie
Greetings All,

I find it very appropriate send my BEST CHRISTMAS WISHES to everyone on
this list with the picture you will find on the URL below.

Be sure to scroll back and forth and up and down as far as you can to
see everything.

 




Re: Perfect Orchard -soil test

2002-12-24 Thread Allan Balliett
Perfect Orchard -soil test

What do you need to look for in a soil test, and why ?

"looking for an ag interpretation "

Per Garp/NH


Per - For a literal answer to your question, Go to the EarthWorks 
site I gave you the url for earlier. There you can find both a blank 
soil test form (results ie what's quantified) and, I believe, the 
interpretive commentary.




Perfect Orchard -soil test

2002-12-24 Thread COYOTEHILLFARM
Perfect Orchard -soil test

What do you need to look for in a soil test, and why ?

"looking for an ag interpretation "

Per Garp/NH




perfect orchard -The soil

2002-12-24 Thread COYOTEHILLFARM
Perfect Orchard -The soil

Is it a problem having mix top soil with hardpan sandy soil ?
If it is a problem what do you do to fix it ??

And after adding "calcium" (local farmer recommend 2 ton to the acre)
do we need to add this stuff every year ?

In this perfect orchard what do we do ? with mulch and added green
manure/compost ?
I like to add 2/4 inch of wood chips in a strip 3 foot wide to promote soil
life and to limited weed growing ?

Per Garp?NH

Please bear with me I'm many emails behind.




ALBRECHT LAB was: Re: Perfect Orchard ?? Brookside Lab

2002-12-24 Thread igg
Per -

Check will Joel Simmons of EarthWorks, outside of Easton, PA. He's 
been doing Albrecht consulting for years and has just opened his own 
lab, which I understand is an upgrade over what either Brookside or 
Perry are currently offering. (You'll have to talk to Joel to get the 
details, but it's my understanding that it was disappointment with 
the prevailing Albrecht labs that led Joel to open his own.)

Make sure they know that you are looking for an ag interpretation for 
your samples.

http://www.soilfirst.com/soilfirst_frame.html

EarthWorks
Natural Organic Products
6574 S. Delaware Drive
P.O. Box 278K
Martins Creek, PA 18063
1 800 732-TURF



Re: Perfect Orchard ?? Brookside Lab

2002-12-24 Thread Lloyd Charles
Hi Per

> Brookside Lab, can you please provide contact address/email
I think that you can only access Brookside labs through a consultant, Perry
you can go direct - or thats what I have been told
LCharles




Re: ADMIN: Re: Science article on BD

2002-12-24 Thread Gil Robertson
Happy Christmas, Allan and the List.

With respect, as 2003 dawns, is it time to have a parallel List that
caters for those with the capability to handle graphics and attachments?
I am about to install the replacement for the three year old (to me)
computer, which cost a hundred Oz dollars = half that in Greens and a
third in Stirling. The old computer handles anything that comes over
normal internet lists. I live in a remote part with a slow and doubtful
connection, but do not have difficulties with other lists.

Have a good one folk!

Gil

Allan Balliett wrote: Broke both of the golden rules with one click of
the mouse.




FW: [globalnews] Mysterious Webs Drop From the Texas Skies

2002-12-24 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] Mysterious Webs Drop From the Texas Skies




And a Merry Christmas to all!



>>Truth is Stranger than Fact
>  Mysterious Webs Drop From the Skies

http://www.galvnews.com/report.lasso?wcd=6722

By Michael A. Smith
The Daily News (Galveston)

Published December 21, 2002

Was it part of nature's enigmatic web, or part of a sinister web of
conspiracy in the black-helicopter, secret-mass-experiment vein?

Hard to say, but one thing seems clear: The skies over Galveston County
on Friday were literally filled with floating, shimmering strands and
fuzzy, luminescent wads that looked a lot like spider webs.

Lorenzo DeLacerta saw them about noon when he delivered building material
to a site a mile east of the San Louis Pass Bridge.

"It blew my mind," DeLacerta said. "I have never seen anything like it
before." Others on the site saw them, too, he said, but their minds were
not blown. They were like ‘Yeah?' They didn't seem to think much about
it."

Lorenzo called his sister, Gloria, who saw the same thing in the sky over
La Marque. She called The Daily News where a half dozen skeptical news
people were forced to admit that there was, indeed, under way a slow,
steady parade of slender web-like strands, some near the ground, some way
up where the airliners ply.

The webs were visible in the air for five hours, and poles were left
wrapped with the sticky strands and fuzzy wads. So what were they?
Official sky-web sources seem scarce. A spokesman at the National Weather
Service Office in League City said the service had received no reports of
flying webs, and that flying webs weren't really their thing.
The phenomenon has occurred in at least two other places. The Associated
Press reported Oct. 8 that "long, floating spider webs" were "bobbing
through the skies of Santa Cruz, Calif., … confusing some community
members concerned about biological weapons, UFOs and other phenomena."

And the Wallowa Chieftain in Oregon reported on Dec. 22, 2000, the
sightings of "web-like material … falling from the sky" that some locals
thought came "from three military jets that had been flying back and
forth in an east-west flight pattern at high altitude."
A University of Wyoming microbiology professor quoted in the AP story
attributed the Santa Cruz webs to a seasonal migration of hatchling
spiders leaving their nests. The professor, who did not return messages
left at his home and office, said it was not uncommon to see "dozens" of
webs floating across the plains of Wyoming.

But observers here were not reporting dozens of webs, but hundreds of
thousands. One explanation, of sorts, can be found on the World Wide Web,
where scores of people are convinced that the webs are man-made and may
be part of a sinister conspiracy. Like a lot of web-based topics, exactly
what is the man-made material and the conspiracy's goal is a little murky.

Some posts say the webs appear on days when strange condensation trails,
like those from jet airplanes, also occur. Was Galveston County visited
by a mundane migration of arachnids or something else?

Lorenzo DeLacerta, who spent Friday contemplating the webs, does not know
what they were, but he says he's sure of one thing. "I have never seen
anything like this before. I have seen spiders floating on webs before,
but I have never seen this."

*
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Re: Perfect Orchard ?? Brookside Lab

2002-12-24 Thread COYOTEHILLFARM
Brookside Lab, can you please provide contact address/email

Thanks
Per Garp/ NH ( sorry i'm running 500+ email late)
- Original Message -
From: "Peter Michael Bacchus" 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 04:49 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard ??


> Dear Per
>   Now that you have given your location and soil description
it
> is easier to make a suggestion.
>   Have your soil chemistry analyzed by Brookside Lab. or
similar
> then work on balancing your cation exchange to suit grape vines.
> Drain as mentioned and form up windrows to plant on. grape roots like to
be
> warm. I would be a bit cautious about sheep and goat manure as they tend
to
> make the ground harder, or at least that is my experience. Horse manure
has
> the most soil loosening effect, followed by cow. This is of course to be
> composted and prepped. Then be generous with the Horn manure and barrel
> compost. You need to get the soil life going which means you may need to
> drain to avoid waterlogging at any time.
>  If you really do need to loosen the subsoil mechanically I
> suggest that you look at gelignite, I have seen it used to good effect
under
> trees that were stunted by hard pan. In this way the topsoil would remain
on
> top.
>Go and have a look at what Steven Storch is doing and
perhaps
> get some advice from him.
> Best of luck,
> Peter.
> - Original Message -
> From: "COYOTEHILLFARM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard ??
>
>
> > I appreciate this comments,
> >
> > We are here permanently, Hardpan is very common in the Eastern US, in NH
> > winery's are Uncommon.
> >
> > Gypsum has been suggested in the past but only a hand full of it in for
> each
> > grape planting.
> >
> > Hardpan in the NH is a sand like product with a bunch of stones large to
> > small, it act much like quicksand when water soaked, water have a hard
> time
> > penetrate it and that's way I need to drain my fields as grapes do not
> like
> > wet feet's.
> > We do not have any clay, as far as what I have seen.
> >
> > On top of the Hard pan we have 1 to 2 feet's of good top soil Some time
> more
> > some time less pending on location and past cow manure deposit.
> >
> > We have consider ripping the hardpan whit a 2-3 foot "Hardpan buster"
type
> > of equipment but have fund that it is harder to do a good job of that
type
> > of equipment, a 3x3 dug ditch seems more functional. ( But more costly)
> and
> > then the gypsum can do it's job !?
> >
> > I plan to cover the rows with wood chips, (and add goat and sheep
> manure)as
> > a soil help and to prevent grass and competition. (I like to see
chickens
> > and Guinea fouls in the fields)
> >
> > Please describe the full BD cycle.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Per Garp/NH
> >
> >
>




ADMIN: Re: Science article on BD

2002-12-24 Thread Allan Balliett



Good job.

Broke both of the golden rules with one click of the mouse.

Folks: TRIM YOUR RESPONSES. We're not Morons, everyone knows how to 
read a thead, it doesn't need to be forwarded each time.

Also, never post graphics or other attachments to this list.

Thanks

-Allan



Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-24 Thread Allan Balliett
Is it only oil that the US is after or  is it power over all decisions made
by anyone in all facets of life? It will be really amazing to see what
happens world wide when the bombs start dropping. To me the only honourable
outcome for this war is George. W. Bush and Saddam Hussein to have a pistol
duel in prime news time, with the winner to have a regime change in the
others country. It would make a great New Years Day spectacular on CNN.
Have a great Christmas and dont let the great American spin doctors stuff up
your Christmas.


Look up your own pipe, James. Without enthusiastic allies like 
Australia and the UK, even Geo W. would be a little more cautious 
about making the world safe for multi-nationals, eh? -Allan



Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium

2002-12-24 Thread James Hedley
Dear Roger,
   You state, "500, 501 and the other preparations are miracles-in-being
whose
> greatness, despite the passage of time, has in no way been fully
> realised. Similarly we have hardly explored the energies available to us
> naturally (and I don't mean fossil fuels). The opportunity to do so -
> indeed, I feel I should say 'necessity'  - is upon us. From now until
> the bombs start falling, and never mind that the time of year or month
> is 'incorrect', make preparations for the future. After the last
> desperate empirical doomed-to-failure grasp of the 'western' nations at
> world supremacy is over, we will all be too busy chopping wood and
> carrying water!"

I think that you have hit the nail right on the head. As long as there is
cheap fossil fuel, and most of the American people are prepared to sell
their birthright and also the birthright of every person on the planet, for
access to sharing the dream, of GW, Cheney and Rumsfeld and company, of
total world domination there is not much chance for anyone who does not
share that dream with them. There is not a single facet of life over the
whole planet that the US does not try to influence or control in one way or
another. For a country that started off with such high ideals and freedoms
to set out to take the freedom of billions of people from them is for me
incomprehensible.
Is it only oil that the US is after or  is it power over all decisions made
by anyone in all facets of life? It will be really amazing to see what
happens world wide when the bombs start dropping. To me the only honourable
outcome for this war is George. W. Bush and Saddam Hussein to have a pistol
duel in prime news time, with the winner to have a regime change in the
others country. It would make a great New Years Day spectacular on CNN.
Have a great Christmas and dont let the great American spin doctors stuff up
your Christmas.
James Hedley





seasons greetings

2002-12-24 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus



wishing Alan, family and all subscribers to B.D.Now 

a
 MERRY CHRISTMAS
and a 
HAPPY PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.
 
Peter Bacchus.