Re: Trouble Brewing: Science, Compost Teas and Organic Certification
On 25 May 02, Lloyd Charles wrote: ---8<--- > Dig deep (if you're brave enough) and you will find connections > from these researchers back to the multinational chemical > companies. Watch out for "Viral Marketing" too. George Monibot in his recent "The Fake Persuaders" article wrote: "An article on its [Bivings Group] website, entitled "Viral Marketing: How to Infect the World" warns that "there are some campaigns where it would be undesirable or even disastrous to let the audience know that your organization is directly involved ... it simply is not an intelligent PR move. In cases such as this, it is important to first "listen" to what is being said online ... Once you are plugged into this world, it is possible to make postings to these outlets that present your position as an uninvolved third party. ... Perhaps the greatest advantage of viral marketing is that your message is placed into a context where it is more likely to be considered seriously." A senior executive from Monsanto is quoted on the Bivings site, thanking the PR firm for its "outstanding work"." Full story: http://www.monbiot.com/dsp_article.cfm?article_id=511 Cheers... Rex
Re: Trouble Brewing: Science, Compost Teas and Organic Certification
- Original Message - From: Frank Teuton Subject: Trouble Brewing: Science, Compost Teas and Organic Certification > Dear Frank and other "brewers" When I attended Elaine Ingham's workshop two seasons ago I wondered how long it would take the chemical industry to react to what she was doing. Looking from a conventional (chemical using) farmers position the use of compost is very limited in application particularly in broadacre operations. But here was this lady telling us how to take a ton (or less) of good quality compost add water and some cheap basic feedstock (sugar / molasses) and turn it into a product we could use to replace thousands of dollars of fungicide and insecticide and in the long run probably cut herbicide by at least half - she had common sense, logic, and a stack of hard scientific evidence to back every claim! While ever these type of advances are seen to be limited to the organic or alternative agriculture cummunity there is no problem but when it looks like moving into the mainstream and seriously affecting sales (which the widespread use of compost teas would do) then the big guns swing into actoion. Dig deep (if you're brave enough) and you will find connections from these researchers back to the multinational chemical companies > I have been informed in the last few days that the process of making > amplified aerobic microbial cultures starting with high quality compost, > aerated water and nutrients to create a high bacteria and fungal count > product useful in horticultural and agriculture has come under doubt, and > has been slated to be placed under 120 day restrictions similar to those for > raw manure. > > The reason proposed for this is supposedly that, under certain conditions, a > nutrient solution will support growth of 'enteric pathogenic bacterial > organisms' such as E.coli and Salmonella spp. > > I would very much like to see the specific details of the experiments which > underly the judgment reached by the National Organic Standards Board Compost > Task Force when it issued the following: >
Re: Trouble Brewing: Science, Compost Teas and Organic Certification
Dear NOSB members: Please provide me with citations to the literature on which you are relying in the proposed regulation to treat compost tea like raw manure for purposes of organic certification. My practical anecdotal evidence is that there is no danger of human pathogens in using compost tea. The literature I am familiar with is clear that properly brewed tea with properly made compost does not pose any health risk. In fact using compost tea made aerobically has the potential to drastically improve health conditions by reducing the use of harmful pesticides. Yours truly, Dorothy A. O'Brien 1776 Deer Creek Road Clinton, IA. 52732 __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com
Re: Trouble Brewing: Science, Compost Teas and Organic Certification
Com;ost tea must be good stuff if they want to restrict its use! SStorch
