Re: Subscriber exodus
Hi! Doug, Jane & Allan, Sorry, but I am with Doug, although not necessarily of the same political outlook. (I do not know what his interests are!) I have been ill for a few days and went to the farm to get away from things and was thus computer free. I came back to the normal stack of emails and have gone through and dealt with all the non BD Now ones. With ninety six to go, I am faced with the situation:- do I just dump the whole lot or do I take the time to discard the many "Jane" posts, to see if any one is still posting any thing related to BD or if it is just spam. Jane, much of what you post I agree with and have already read from other sources. I know your Government is less than desirable. Much of what you post is rewritten from rewritten material from old sources. Those who follow world events have had this stuff in the source material ages ago. Allan, I really like information on BD and related subjects. I really respect many of the regular contributors to BD Now. Some posts are vital for the purpose of getting information on BD to those interested in BD. Over time I have passed the details of the list on to many others who are also interested in BD, but as far as I know, none are still on the list, largely because of the volume of unrelated material. Allan, as SYSOP, I believe you must make the decision about the nature of the list. Is it about BD and related subjects or is it not? I would see related subjects including areas like soil science, homoeopathy, radionics, dowsing, organics, marketing propagation, seed collection, alternatives to chemicals, GM issues, water quality, machinery, climate etc. This is in addition to BD and the broader Stiener area. I believe your current policy is limiting access to the information on this list, as many people are not prepared to wade through the non-BD material to find the core material. With the greatest respect. Gil Doug & Jay Stewart wrote > Greg Willis is so right in his observation that it is the very > proponents of BD who do the most to prevent its general acceptance. > snip > Well, I am sorry to see BDNow die. I will miss the periodic gems I > find here. Hopefully someone else will start a new BD email list.
Re: Subscriber exodus
Somehow the threat of war, the responses here, the reactions, can perhaps be seen in a 'bio-dynamic' way. As if the 'farm' has 'enjoyed' the invasion of something undesired. If indeed the farm is to be viewed as a single organism, and it's health viewed as a single issue, then the divergence here, the irritating stuff (for each to decide) is a normal progression, a normal event(s). If a fungal eruption occurs or a flock of crows picks the corn, or whatever, do we merely stand in the field and shake our fist at heaven or do we appreciate what is happening and respond positively. I believe that what we are seeing here on this list is an excellent opportunity to learn the depth and value of bio-dynamics, and I await, the ever involved student. Thank you everyone for your input, love and care. We can turn our backs but we can never move away. John Buckley Mountains W North Carolina - Original Message - From: Peter Michael Bacchus To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:38 AM Subject: Re: Subscriber exodus its got me streached too!!Peter.- Original Message -From: "Rambler Flowers LTD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:40 AMSubject: Re: Subscriber exodus>> - Original Message -> From: "Garuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:38 AM> Subject: Re: Subscriber exodus>>> > I wish to support this being a BD agriculture list and not a political> > hotbed ( to which I have added from time to time)> > GA>> ME Too It is still our busy season here down under and there are too many> off subjects . I am close to leaving this list myself.> Regards Tony R>
Re: Subscriber exodus
its got me streached too!! Peter. - Original Message - From: "Rambler Flowers LTD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Subscriber exodus > > - Original Message - > From: "Garuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:38 AM > Subject: Re: Subscriber exodus > > > > I wish to support this being a BD agriculture list and not a political > > hotbed ( to which I have added from time to time) > > GA > > ME Too It is still our busy season here down under and there are too many > off subjects . I am close to leaving this list myself. >Regards Tony R >
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- Original Message - From: "Garuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Subscriber exodus > I wish to support this being a BD agriculture list and not a political > hotbed ( to which I have added from time to time) > GA ME Too It is still our busy season here down under and there are too many off subjects . I am close to leaving this list myself. Regards Tony R
Re: Subscriber exodus
I wish to support this being a BD agriculture list and not a political hotbed ( to which I have added from time to time) GA - Original Message - From: "Doug & Jay Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: Subscriber exodus > > > >From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Thanks again, Jane. We lost several members of BD Now! >last week due to > >your persistent efforts to support the >illusion of 'conspiracies.' (They > >unsubscribed) > > >Seeing a beautiful portraite of President Bush on the >cover of today's > >Washington Post makes me feel that >perhaps it is I who is deluded, though. > >-Allan > > Allan, > Some of us have seen this (political) delusion on your part for some time. > And I do not say this with any animosity intended. As an example, Noam > Chomsky is a very clever and skilled writer which makes his pieces look and > seem very good. However, when one looks deeper at his "facts," the > deception becomes apparent. > > Subscriber exodus: > > What I feared and expressed in an email appeal to Jane (and Allan) several > weeks ago to separate political posts from BD is gradually coming to pass. > People who joined BDNow for info and inspiration on biodynamics are quitting > in disgust. > > Greg Willis is so right in his observation that it is the very proponents of > BD who do the most to prevent its general acceptance. > > Those of us who have a different view of world events find that on this list > there is ONE CORRECT POLITICAL VIEW ONLY! It is that espoused by Jane (and > seemingly seconded by Allan)! She is so attached to this view that she is > blind to the fact that it is destroying BDNow! > > I could post volumes to counter Jane's posts, but have chosen not to since > my, apparently mistaken, assumption was that this list is for BD ag related > info. > > Well, I am sorry to see BDNow die. I will miss the periodic gems I find > here. Hopefully someone else will start a new BD email list. > > Peace, > Doug > > > > > > > > > > _ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >
Subscriber exodus
From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks again, Jane. We lost several members of BD Now! >last week due to your persistent efforts to support the >illusion of 'conspiracies.' (They unsubscribed) Seeing a beautiful portraite of President Bush on the >cover of today's Washington Post makes me feel that >perhaps it is I who is deluded, though. -Allan Allan, Some of us have seen this (political) delusion on your part for some time. And I do not say this with any animosity intended. As an example, Noam Chomsky is a very clever and skilled writer which makes his pieces look and seem very good. However, when one looks deeper at his "facts," the deception becomes apparent. Subscriber exodus: What I feared and expressed in an email appeal to Jane (and Allan) several weeks ago to separate political posts from BD is gradually coming to pass. People who joined BDNow for info and inspiration on biodynamics are quitting in disgust. Greg Willis is so right in his observation that it is the very proponents of BD who do the most to prevent its general acceptance. Those of us who have a different view of world events find that on this list there is ONE CORRECT POLITICAL VIEW ONLY! It is that espoused by Jane (and seemingly seconded by Allan)! She is so attached to this view that she is blind to the fact that it is destroying BDNow! I could post volumes to counter Jane's posts, but have chosen not to since my, apparently mistaken, assumption was that this list is for BD ag related info. Well, I am sorry to see BDNow die. I will miss the periodic gems I find here. Hopefully someone else will start a new BD email list. Peace, Doug _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail