Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
Julian, What a great way to use cattle panels I can see them cropping up on my place within the month. Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian Hale Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:09 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing At 07:34 AM 1/9/2006, you wrote: >Mark-- Another advantage of portable housing is this-- >IT IS NOT REAL ESTATE! therefore-- it cannot be taxed >as an "improvement" on the property. > Many of the local Alpaca peole here use the design >for their males or specific breeding groups. It >permits the housing to also be in the pasture that is >being grazed, rather than having top herd the animals >from barn to pasture-- > >Terry Yes, that's why I've renamed my Sheep Shed the Tax Shelter ;) It's made of T-posts, cattle panels, and a tarp(just like this one): http://www.serenityacresllamas.com/shelters.htm It really bugs me that I have to get permission to build on my own land, and then have to keep paying for the privilege after the fact. Just who's property is it??? OK, mini rant over ;) Julian ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
At 07:34 AM 1/9/2006, you wrote: >Mark-- Another advantage of portable housing is this-- >IT IS NOT REAL ESTATE! therefore-- it cannot be taxed >as an "improvement" on the property. > Many of the local Alpaca peole here use the design >for their males or specific breeding groups. It >permits the housing to also be in the pasture that is >being grazed, rather than having top herd the animals >from barn to pasture-- > >Terry Yes, that's why I've renamed my Sheep Shed the Tax Shelter ;) It's made of T-posts, cattle panels, and a tarp(just like this one): http://www.serenityacresllamas.com/shelters.htm It really bugs me that I have to get permission to build on my own land, and then have to keep paying for the privilege after the fact. Just who's property is it??? OK, mini rant over ;) Julian ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
My Tractor can pull it if I put logs or something underneath it to roll on. I do that quite often. That way I don't have wheels on something that someone can take. I use metal roll stock for moving things quite often. You don't need much and its cheaper than wheels. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Wereb Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:51 AM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing That is a pretty heavy container.. can your vehicle handle it? If you put wheels on it-- the local govmimnt would probably want to call it a vehicle. i will se if I can get the basic plans on my intended housing scanned and into some type of transmittable document-- it is a design that is very adaptable- I like it a lot. Also _"Yard Barns" qualify as portable if you do not want to build something yourself. My Brother had one shipped in from SugarCreek, Ohio.. It was transported in high winds, nary a shingle was disturbed. He uses it for storage right now until the barn is finished-- then it's MINE! ihe idea of having "overhead" storage in some building designs, even though I cannot readily utilize that type. Terry ( PS-- I never thought it wise to put the whole flock in one barn, or to even store feed and animals in the same barn. Something happens, everything is put at greater risk.) Terry --- The Wintermutes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds great to me! I have been thinking about > buying those 8'x8'x40' > shipping containers. They are built for salt water, > have a floor and allow > movement as my farm "evolves". I have been quoted > $2000 dollars delivered > to my farm. I wonder if they are tax exempt? > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Terry > Wereb > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:35 AM > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing > > Mark-- Another advantage of portable housing is > this-- > IT IS NOT REAL ESTATE! therefore-- it cannot be > taxed > as an "improvement" on the property. > Many of the local Alpaca peole here use the design > for their males or specific breeding groups. It > permits the housing to also be in the pasture that > is > being grazed, rather than having top herd the > animals > from barn to pasture-- > > Terry > > --- The Wintermutes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hi Terry, > > > > I only bed my sheep down when it is very cold, wet > > or when they have > > newborns. I personally don't like ammonia > build-up > > or moisture of any kind > > inside my barns. I wouldn't worry too much about > > heat loss to the ground > > unless the ground is wet. I feel a solid wind > break > > is needed especially > > for babies. An idea for you, I have found my > sheep > > absolutely love to jump > > up on an old tool bench counter to lie down. > Maybe > > some simple benches > > would keep them dry. I like the idea of > "portable" > > housing. It would be > > nice to be able to hook up a tractor and move the > > barn rather than clean it > > out! > > > > Mark Wintermute > > > > -Original Message- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Terry > > Wereb > > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:21 PM > > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > Subject: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing > > > > I have a decision to make, and I need some > serious > > input-- > > I will be using portable housing for my flock in > > order to best utilize intensive grazing methods. > the > > plans can be made so that the housing is made with > > or > > without a wood floor. either way I go-- the > housing > > will be set on raised "beds" of crushed stone in > > orer > > to keep moisture away from the frame and "skids" > of > > the building. This will also prevent the floor > from > > getting flooded when it does rain. > > If I go no wood floor, the skids will be an issue > > for > > MY footing- I may have difficulty stepping over > the > > skids on some days- I am sure the sheep will have > no > > problem with it. If I use a floor, I will need to > > seal > > it against moisture from the normal animal waste > > process. Either way-- there will be deep bedding > to > > prevent pressure sores. By deep-- I like to see > > horses > > knee deep when straw is just put in, so I figure > > sheep > > can be proportionately as deep, with a layer of > corn > > cob bedding underneath for absorption of liquid > > waste. > > > > Is there an advantage to having a wood floor that > > anyone has noticed? I am looking at considerations > > of > > heat loss ( body to ground) in the winter, > > opportunities for "unfriendly" critters to set up > > housekeeping, and, of course, cost. I can > originally > > build with no floor and add later-- the wall > frames > > on > > the plans go up before the floor is laid down. > > I
Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache?
Susan, I am giving her soda water. No, she is not pregnant, so that is not the problem. Thanks to all who have gave me some great ideas. - Original Message - From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > I sure am sorry about your ewes problems. Not that I suggest this is her > problem, but might it be possible she has gas/colic? I give my sheep free > choice soda. They seem to know when they have stomach problems. Just a > thought. Susan > > > > > > > > > >From: "Stephanie Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >To: > >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > >Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:41:46 -0500 > > > >Rhonda, > >It is NOT too late. As, she is still alive and seems to be somewhat > >better. (tongue in cheek). After 5 days of LA200, I waited 2 days and > >have changed to Penicillian (3cc). I generally do not like to give Pen G > >to my sheep as it kills the ruman, But I gotta do something. She is > >eating and picking. But you can 'just tell' that she don't feel good. > >Another thing for thought She stands and stretches her hind feet out > >behind her, both feet on the ground with a long lunge forward. She'll > >stand that way for up to 1 minute. It is almost like she needs a good > >long stretch. Again leading me to think her belly hurts her. I'll > >certainly try the vinegar tonight!! Any other thoughts is appreciated! > > > >Stephanie > >- Original Message - > >From: "RBMuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:37 PM > >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > > > > > > > This may be late but not too late! > > > Try the cider vinegar cure! Dilute cider vinegar in half with water > >and > > > give 20cc / 100lbs. > > > It should set the stomach back to normal. And has been known to > >create > > > miracles! > > > Rhonda > > > > > >___ > >This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > >Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellyshe ep.info > > _ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
That is a pretty heavy container.. can your vehicle handle it? If you put wheels on it-- the local govmimnt would probably want to call it a vehicle. i will se if I can get the basic plans on my intended housing scanned and into some type of transmittable document-- it is a design that is very adaptable- I like it a lot. Also _"Yard Barns" qualify as portable if you do not want to build something yourself. My Brother had one shipped in from SugarCreek, Ohio.. It was transported in high winds, nary a shingle was disturbed. He uses it for storage right now until the barn is finished-- then it's MINE! ihe idea of having "overhead" storage in some building designs, even though I cannot readily utilize that type. Terry ( PS-- I never thought it wise to put the whole flock in one barn, or to even store feed and animals in the same barn. Something happens, everything is put at greater risk.) Terry --- The Wintermutes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds great to me! I have been thinking about > buying those 8'x8'x40' > shipping containers. They are built for salt water, > have a floor and allow > movement as my farm "evolves". I have been quoted > $2000 dollars delivered > to my farm. I wonder if they are tax exempt? > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Terry > Wereb > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:35 AM > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing > > Mark-- Another advantage of portable housing is > this-- > IT IS NOT REAL ESTATE! therefore-- it cannot be > taxed > as an "improvement" on the property. > Many of the local Alpaca peole here use the design > for their males or specific breeding groups. It > permits the housing to also be in the pasture that > is > being grazed, rather than having top herd the > animals > from barn to pasture-- > > Terry > > --- The Wintermutes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hi Terry, > > > > I only bed my sheep down when it is very cold, wet > > or when they have > > newborns. I personally don't like ammonia > build-up > > or moisture of any kind > > inside my barns. I wouldn't worry too much about > > heat loss to the ground > > unless the ground is wet. I feel a solid wind > break > > is needed especially > > for babies. An idea for you, I have found my > sheep > > absolutely love to jump > > up on an old tool bench counter to lie down. > Maybe > > some simple benches > > would keep them dry. I like the idea of > "portable" > > housing. It would be > > nice to be able to hook up a tractor and move the > > barn rather than clean it > > out! > > > > Mark Wintermute > > > > -Original Message- > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Terry > > Wereb > > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:21 PM > > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > Subject: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing > > > > I have a decision to make, and I need some > serious > > input-- > > I will be using portable housing for my flock in > > order to best utilize intensive grazing methods. > the > > plans can be made so that the housing is made with > > or > > without a wood floor. either way I go-- the > housing > > will be set on raised "beds" of crushed stone in > > orer > > to keep moisture away from the frame and "skids" > of > > the building. This will also prevent the floor > from > > getting flooded when it does rain. > > If I go no wood floor, the skids will be an issue > > for > > MY footing- I may have difficulty stepping over > the > > skids on some days- I am sure the sheep will have > no > > problem with it. If I use a floor, I will need to > > seal > > it against moisture from the normal animal waste > > process. Either way-- there will be deep bedding > to > > prevent pressure sores. By deep-- I like to see > > horses > > knee deep when straw is just put in, so I figure > > sheep > > can be proportionately as deep, with a layer of > corn > > cob bedding underneath for absorption of liquid > > waste. > > > > Is there an advantage to having a wood floor that > > anyone has noticed? I am looking at considerations > > of > > heat loss ( body to ground) in the winter, > > opportunities for "unfriendly" critters to set up > > housekeeping, and, of course, cost. I can > originally > > build with no floor and add later-- the wall > frames > > on > > the plans go up before the floor is laid down. > > I am located in NE Ohio- in the snow belt, so to > > speak. I will be building a floored building for > my > > rabbits for the winter, as they won't pasture well > > then, and their building will also hold feed and > > medical supplies for the whole farm. But do I need > > it > > for the sheep? > > > > Terry > > > > ___ > > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > > Visit the list's homepage at > > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > > htt
Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
Sounds great to me! I have been thinking about buying those 8'x8'x40' shipping containers. They are built for salt water, have a floor and allow movement as my farm "evolves". I have been quoted $2000 dollars delivered to my farm. I wonder if they are tax exempt? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Wereb Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:35 AM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing Mark-- Another advantage of portable housing is this-- IT IS NOT REAL ESTATE! therefore-- it cannot be taxed as an "improvement" on the property. Many of the local Alpaca peole here use the design for their males or specific breeding groups. It permits the housing to also be in the pasture that is being grazed, rather than having top herd the animals from barn to pasture-- Terry --- The Wintermutes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Terry, > > I only bed my sheep down when it is very cold, wet > or when they have > newborns. I personally don't like ammonia build-up > or moisture of any kind > inside my barns. I wouldn't worry too much about > heat loss to the ground > unless the ground is wet. I feel a solid wind break > is needed especially > for babies. An idea for you, I have found my sheep > absolutely love to jump > up on an old tool bench counter to lie down. Maybe > some simple benches > would keep them dry. I like the idea of "portable" > housing. It would be > nice to be able to hook up a tractor and move the > barn rather than clean it > out! > > Mark Wintermute > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Terry > Wereb > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:21 PM > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Subject: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing > > I have a decision to make, and I need some serious > input-- > I will be using portable housing for my flock in > order to best utilize intensive grazing methods. the > plans can be made so that the housing is made with > or > without a wood floor. either way I go-- the housing > will be set on raised "beds" of crushed stone in > orer > to keep moisture away from the frame and "skids" of > the building. This will also prevent the floor from > getting flooded when it does rain. > If I go no wood floor, the skids will be an issue > for > MY footing- I may have difficulty stepping over the > skids on some days- I am sure the sheep will have no > problem with it. If I use a floor, I will need to > seal > it against moisture from the normal animal waste > process. Either way-- there will be deep bedding to > prevent pressure sores. By deep-- I like to see > horses > knee deep when straw is just put in, so I figure > sheep > can be proportionately as deep, with a layer of corn > cob bedding underneath for absorption of liquid > waste. > > Is there an advantage to having a wood floor that > anyone has noticed? I am looking at considerations > of > heat loss ( body to ground) in the winter, > opportunities for "unfriendly" critters to set up > housekeeping, and, of course, cost. I can originally > build with no floor and add later-- the wall frames > on > the plans go up before the floor is laid down. > I am located in NE Ohio- in the snow belt, so to > speak. I will be building a floored building for my > rabbits for the winter, as they won't pasture well > then, and their building will also hold feed and > medical supplies for the whole farm. But do I need > it > for the sheep? > > Terry > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in > fo > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
Mark-- Another advantage of portable housing is this-- IT IS NOT REAL ESTATE! therefore-- it cannot be taxed as an "improvement" on the property. Many of the local Alpaca peole here use the design for their males or specific breeding groups. It permits the housing to also be in the pasture that is being grazed, rather than having top herd the animals from barn to pasture-- Terry --- The Wintermutes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Terry, > > I only bed my sheep down when it is very cold, wet > or when they have > newborns. I personally don't like ammonia build-up > or moisture of any kind > inside my barns. I wouldn't worry too much about > heat loss to the ground > unless the ground is wet. I feel a solid wind break > is needed especially > for babies. An idea for you, I have found my sheep > absolutely love to jump > up on an old tool bench counter to lie down. Maybe > some simple benches > would keep them dry. I like the idea of "portable" > housing. It would be > nice to be able to hook up a tractor and move the > barn rather than clean it > out! > > Mark Wintermute > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Terry > Wereb > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:21 PM > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Subject: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing > > I have a decision to make, and I need some serious > input-- > I will be using portable housing for my flock in > order to best utilize intensive grazing methods. the > plans can be made so that the housing is made with > or > without a wood floor. either way I go-- the housing > will be set on raised "beds" of crushed stone in > orer > to keep moisture away from the frame and "skids" of > the building. This will also prevent the floor from > getting flooded when it does rain. > If I go no wood floor, the skids will be an issue > for > MY footing- I may have difficulty stepping over the > skids on some days- I am sure the sheep will have no > problem with it. If I use a floor, I will need to > seal > it against moisture from the normal animal waste > process. Either way-- there will be deep bedding to > prevent pressure sores. By deep-- I like to see > horses > knee deep when straw is just put in, so I figure > sheep > can be proportionately as deep, with a layer of corn > cob bedding underneath for absorption of liquid > waste. > > Is there an advantage to having a wood floor that > anyone has noticed? I am looking at considerations > of > heat loss ( body to ground) in the winter, > opportunities for "unfriendly" critters to set up > housekeeping, and, of course, cost. I can originally > build with no floor and add later-- the wall frames > on > the plans go up before the floor is laid down. > I am located in NE Ohio- in the snow belt, so to > speak. I will be building a floored building for my > rabbits for the winter, as they won't pasture well > then, and their building will also hold feed and > medical supplies for the whole farm. But do I need > it > for the sheep? > > Terry > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in > fo > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
Hi Terry, My feeling is that your safety should come first. If the skids may be a potential problem for you then the wood floor would be best. If you were to trip over the skids and have problems getting up then that could be a very serious situation. There are so many pluses and minuses to having a wood flooring that its very hard to decide. Some of the points you made have me considering a wood floor in mine, but I also feel the same way Mark does about moving it to new spots. David Kellough Licking Co. Ohio - Original Message - From: "Terry Wereb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:21 AM Subject: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing > I have a decision to make, and I need some serious > input-- > I will be using portable housing for my flock in > order to best utilize intensive grazing methods. the > plans can be made so that the housing is made with or > without a wood floor. either way I go-- the housing > will be set on raised "beds" of crushed stone in orer > to keep moisture away from the frame and "skids" of > the building. This will also prevent the floor from > getting flooded when it does rain. > If I go no wood floor, the skids will be an issue for > MY footing- I may have difficulty stepping over the > skids on some days- I am sure the sheep will have no > problem with it. If I use a floor, I will need to seal > it against moisture from the normal animal waste > process. Either way-- there will be deep bedding to > prevent pressure sores. By deep-- I like to see horses > knee deep when straw is just put in, so I figure sheep > can be proportionately as deep, with a layer of corn > cob bedding underneath for absorption of liquid waste. > > Is there an advantage to having a wood floor that > anyone has noticed? I am looking at considerations of > heat loss ( body to ground) in the winter, > opportunities for "unfriendly" critters to set up > housekeeping, and, of course, cost. I can originally > build with no floor and add later-- the wall frames on > the plans go up before the floor is laid down. > I am located in NE Ohio- in the snow belt, so to > speak. I will be building a floored building for my > rabbits for the winter, as they won't pasture well > then, and their building will also hold feed and > medical supplies for the whole farm. But do I need it > for the sheep? > > Terry > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache?
Is she pregnant / due soon? I had one do that for a couple of weeks before she was due, didn't realize the babies were in the wrong position and she was trying to move them around. Now, when I see one doing that, I put them on their backs and kind of bicycle their back feet and massage their stomachs and roll them from side to side a bit to try and put whatever's out of place in a position to get into the right place. So far, the other 2 that I did that to were fine and the babies were born in correct position. Whether what I did helped, I don't know, but I knew from the first one that I had to try something. Onalee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephanie Jones Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:42 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? Rhonda, It is NOT too late. As, she is still alive and seems to be somewhat better. (tongue in cheek). After 5 days of LA200, I waited 2 days and have changed to Penicillian (3cc). I generally do not like to give Pen G to my sheep as it kills the ruman, But I gotta do something. She is eating and picking. But you can 'just tell' that she don't feel good. Another thing for thought She stands and stretches her hind feet out behind her, both feet on the ground with a long lunge forward. She'll stand that way for up to 1 minute. It is almost like she needs a good long stretch. Again leading me to think her belly hurts her. I'll certainly try the vinegar tonight!! Any other thoughts is appreciated! Stephanie - Original Message - From: "RBMuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > This may be late but not too late! > Try the cider vinegar cure! Dilute cider vinegar in half with water and > give 20cc / 100lbs. > It should set the stomach back to normal. And has been known to create > miracles! > Rhonda ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache?
I sure am sorry about your ewes problems. Not that I suggest this is her problem, but might it be possible she has gas/colic? I give my sheep free choice soda. They seem to know when they have stomach problems. Just a thought. Susan >From: "Stephanie Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info >To: >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? >Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:41:46 -0500 > >Rhonda, >It is NOT too late. As, she is still alive and seems to be somewhat >better. (tongue in cheek). After 5 days of LA200, I waited 2 days and >have changed to Penicillian (3cc). I generally do not like to give Pen G >to my sheep as it kills the ruman, But I gotta do something. She is >eating and picking. But you can 'just tell' that she don't feel good. >Another thing for thought She stands and stretches her hind feet out >behind her, both feet on the ground with a long lunge forward. She'll >stand that way for up to 1 minute. It is almost like she needs a good >long stretch. Again leading me to think her belly hurts her. I'll >certainly try the vinegar tonight!! Any other thoughts is appreciated! > >Stephanie >- Original Message - >From: "RBMuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:37 PM >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > > > > This may be late but not too late! > > Try the cider vinegar cure! Dilute cider vinegar in half with water >and > > give 20cc / 100lbs. > > It should set the stomach back to normal. And has been known to >create > > miracles! > > Rhonda > > >___ >This message is from the blackbelly mailing list >Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info >http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache?
Rhonda, It is NOT too late. As, she is still alive and seems to be somewhat better. (tongue in cheek). After 5 days of LA200, I waited 2 days and have changed to Penicillian (3cc). I generally do not like to give Pen G to my sheep as it kills the ruman, But I gotta do something. She is eating and picking. But you can 'just tell' that she don't feel good. Another thing for thought She stands and stretches her hind feet out behind her, both feet on the ground with a long lunge forward. She'll stand that way for up to 1 minute. It is almost like she needs a good long stretch. Again leading me to think her belly hurts her. I'll certainly try the vinegar tonight!! Any other thoughts is appreciated! Stephanie - Original Message - From: "RBMuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] tummy ache? > This may be late but not too late! > Try the cider vinegar cure! Dilute cider vinegar in half with water and > give 20cc / 100lbs. > It should set the stomach back to normal. And has been known to create > miracles! > Rhonda ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
Hi Terry, I only bed my sheep down when it is very cold, wet or when they have newborns. I personally don't like ammonia build-up or moisture of any kind inside my barns. I wouldn't worry too much about heat loss to the ground unless the ground is wet. I feel a solid wind break is needed especially for babies. An idea for you, I have found my sheep absolutely love to jump up on an old tool bench counter to lie down. Maybe some simple benches would keep them dry. I like the idea of "portable" housing. It would be nice to be able to hook up a tractor and move the barn rather than clean it out! Mark Wintermute -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Wereb Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:21 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing I have a decision to make, and I need some serious input-- I will be using portable housing for my flock in order to best utilize intensive grazing methods. the plans can be made so that the housing is made with or without a wood floor. either way I go-- the housing will be set on raised "beds" of crushed stone in orer to keep moisture away from the frame and "skids" of the building. This will also prevent the floor from getting flooded when it does rain. If I go no wood floor, the skids will be an issue for MY footing- I may have difficulty stepping over the skids on some days- I am sure the sheep will have no problem with it. If I use a floor, I will need to seal it against moisture from the normal animal waste process. Either way-- there will be deep bedding to prevent pressure sores. By deep-- I like to see horses knee deep when straw is just put in, so I figure sheep can be proportionately as deep, with a layer of corn cob bedding underneath for absorption of liquid waste. Is there an advantage to having a wood floor that anyone has noticed? I am looking at considerations of heat loss ( body to ground) in the winter, opportunities for "unfriendly" critters to set up housekeeping, and, of course, cost. I can originally build with no floor and add later-- the wall frames on the plans go up before the floor is laid down. I am located in NE Ohio- in the snow belt, so to speak. I will be building a floored building for my rabbits for the winter, as they won't pasture well then, and their building will also hold feed and medical supplies for the whole farm. But do I need it for the sheep? Terry ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
