Re: [blackbelly] for sale
Morning Rick, I found the same here for the 4-H. The kids can only show in Showmanship and Breed Classes with Blackbellys or any other breed of sheep. I have seen breeds other then "market" breeds go into the Breed Classes and the judges have no idea what the breed the kids are showing were. The kids don't stand a chance either if they want to be different then the norm. I have spent 3 years trying to change this attitude in 4-H sheep judging to no avail. If it doesn't look like a Suffolk it must not be a sheep!! Sue From: "Rick Krach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To: blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] for sale Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:10:46 -0800 I have decided to sell an American Blackbelly, two year old, BOTTLE FED ewe along with her latest, two month old girl lamb. She is too small for my flock, but would make a great pet for someone. Auburn is half an hour east of Sacramento. Call me or email me and I'll email a family picture. Talk about too small, I heard a curious thing today when a 4-H youngster asked me about raising one of my sheep for Auburn's September county fair. I learned from him that lambs at our fair had to meet the minimum requirement of 80 pounds! No wonder kids can never show Blackbellies! Rick Krach Auburn, California (530) 889-1488 ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] for sale
Would county or state fairs have objections to "exhibits" that were not competeing? I noticed at my county's fair last year that there were no meat goats-- just dairy breeds. All the sheep were woolies. One lady had a Scottish Highland cow and her calf there-- but I believe it was entered as a beef contender. There is one person who brings Irish Dexter's-- and has a stand-up display of them working under yoke. Getting a bunch of rare breeds together under one tent, so to speak, may be a great way to spread the word about other issues-- to more than just agricultural people! And if the animals have been handled so that they are docile (with and without horns)and "socialized" to the experience, then that is all the better for ambassadorship. Terry W --- Rick Krach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I learned from him that lambs at our fair had to > meet the minimum > requirement of 80 pounds! No wonder kids can never > show Blackbellies! > > Rick Krach >Auburn, California > (530) 889-1488 > > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] for sale
I agree that is a great idea Terry! Speaking from my own experience about puting up an exibit like that at a 4-H Fair, I ran into a bunch of "well, we'll have to ask the fair board, or there is no monies for extra exibits, etc." There was so much of that I just quit trying. Not that you all should quit, but after 3 years of it I just decided to quit trying. I even tried to give preimuns to the children who won in "all breed" classes as an incentive to show other breeds of sheep, including Blackbellys and 4-H wouldn't let me. If you could get a lot of people together who have different breeds of anything animal wise then go for it. I still believe there is a place for Blackbellys at the fairs. Sue From: Terry Wereb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:19:56 -0800 (PST) Would county or state fairs have objections to "exhibits" that were not competeing? I noticed at my county's fair last year that there were no meat goats-- just dairy breeds. All the sheep were woolies. One lady had a Scottish Highland cow and her calf there-- but I believe it was entered as a beef contender. There is one person who brings Irish Dexter's-- and has a stand-up display of them working under yoke. Getting a bunch of rare breeds together under one tent, so to speak, may be a great way to spread the word about other issues-- to more than just agricultural people! And if the animals have been handled so that they are docile (with and without horns)and "socialized" to the experience, then that is all the better for ambassadorship. Terry W --- Rick Krach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I learned from him that lambs at our fair had to > meet the minimum > requirement of 80 pounds! No wonder kids can never > show Blackbellies! > > Rick Krach >Auburn, California > (530) 889-1488 > > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] for sale
Okay-- when I get my sheep-ses- I will see what I can do for sheep! I am also considering rare breed rabbits. Maybe I can go through the ALBC membership directory, and "Borrow" a few other breeds/species for "display purposes only" for my local fairs-- there are four on four consecutive weekends here-- and one of them is THE GREAT GEAUGA COUNTY FAIR!!! ( Last fair of the year in Ohio. Always well attended-- AND the one of the two local ones that the AMISH attend. And I already know that those communities are looking for something to help with their farm economics- a few are already raising goats for the ethnic markets, but have few resources to get them there! And I can help with that! Terry --- Susan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree that is a great idea Terry! Speaking from > my own experience about > puting up an exibit like that at a 4-H Fair, I ran > into a bunch of "well, > we'll have to ask the fair board, or there is no > monies for extra exibits, > etc." There was so much of that I just quit trying. > Not that you all > should quit, but after 3 years of it I just decided > to quit trying. I even > tried to give preimuns to the children who won in > "all breed" classes as an > incentive to show other breeds of sheep, including > Blackbellys and > 4-H wouldn't let me. If you could get a lot of > people together who have > different breeds of anything animal wise then go for > it. I still believe > there is a place for Blackbellys at the fairs. Sue > > > > > > >From: Terry Wereb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale > >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:19:56 -0800 (PST) > > > >Would county or state fairs have objections to > >"exhibits" that were not competeing? I noticed at > my > >county's fair last year that there were no meat > >goats-- just dairy breeds. All the sheep were > woolies. > >One lady had a Scottish Highland cow and her calf > >there-- but I believe it was entered as a beef > >contender. There is one person who brings Irish > >Dexter's-- and has a stand-up display of them > working > >under yoke. > > Getting a bunch of rare breeds together under > one > >tent, so to speak, may be a great way to spread the > >word about other issues-- to more than just > >agricultural people! And if the animals have been > >handled so that they are docile (with and without > >horns)and "socialized" to the experience, then that > is > >all the better for ambassadorship. > > > >Terry W > > > >--- Rick Krach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I learned from him that lambs at our fair had to > > > meet the minimum > > > requirement of 80 pounds! No wonder kids can > never > > > show Blackbellies! > > > > > > Rick Krach > > >Auburn, California > > > (530) 889-1488 > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > > > Visit the list's homepage at > > > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > > > >http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > > > > > > >___ > >This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > >Visit the list's homepage at > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > > _ > Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN > Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] for sale
Terry, County Fairs and State Fairs from my understanding do the exotic/different breeds exhibits. I wish you luck with 4-H. Sue From: Terry Wereb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:56:29 -0800 (PST) Okay-- when I get my sheep-ses- I will see what I can do for sheep! I am also considering rare breed rabbits. Maybe I can go through the ALBC membership directory, and "Borrow" a few other breeds/species for "display purposes only" for my local fairs-- there are four on four consecutive weekends here-- and one of them is THE GREAT GEAUGA COUNTY FAIR!!! ( Last fair of the year in Ohio. Always well attended-- AND the one of the two local ones that the AMISH attend. And I already know that those communities are looking for something to help with their farm economics- a few are already raising goats for the ethnic markets, but have few resources to get them there! And I can help with that! Terry --- Susan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree that is a great idea Terry! Speaking from > my own experience about > puting up an exibit like that at a 4-H Fair, I ran > into a bunch of "well, > we'll have to ask the fair board, or there is no > monies for extra exibits, > etc." There was so much of that I just quit trying. > Not that you all > should quit, but after 3 years of it I just decided > to quit trying. I even > tried to give preimuns to the children who won in > "all breed" classes as an > incentive to show other breeds of sheep, including > Blackbellys and > 4-H wouldn't let me. If you could get a lot of > people together who have > different breeds of anything animal wise then go for > it. I still believe > there is a place for Blackbellys at the fairs. Sue > > > > > > >From: Terry Wereb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale > >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:19:56 -0800 (PST) > > > >Would county or state fairs have objections to > >"exhibits" that were not competeing? I noticed at > my > >county's fair last year that there were no meat > >goats-- just dairy breeds. All the sheep were > woolies. > >One lady had a Scottish Highland cow and her calf > >there-- but I believe it was entered as a beef > >contender. There is one person who brings Irish > >Dexter's-- and has a stand-up display of them > working > >under yoke. > > Getting a bunch of rare breeds together under > one > >tent, so to speak, may be a great way to spread the > >word about other issues-- to more than just > >agricultural people! And if the animals have been > >handled so that they are docile (with and without > >horns)and "socialized" to the experience, then that > is > >all the better for ambassadorship. > > > >Terry W > > > >--- Rick Krach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I learned from him that lambs at our fair had to > > > meet the minimum > > > requirement of 80 pounds! No wonder kids can > never > > > show Blackbellies! > > > > > > Rick Krach > > >Auburn, California > > > (530) 889-1488 > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > > > Visit the list's homepage at > > > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > > > >http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > > > > > > >___ > >This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > >Visit the list's homepage at > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > > _ > Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN > Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at > blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] for sale
I figure "do what the alpaca people did" In other words-- create a demand!!! But not on the Alpaca scale--Quite frankly, I like Alpaca. llamas, etc-- but I am NOT going to pay the equivalent of what, for me, is two years of income for one animal! I will visit my extension office tomorrow and see if maybe I can get a foot into the 4-H door. There is not a lot of real animal agriculture going on in this county-- but the two neighboring counties are pretty much nothing but rural. A friend passed on to me, via e-mail, an article on how the mini-cows can actually be used to produce more beef per acre than a full-sized cow, and I am thinking that would be a great way to "sell" the smaller hair sheep to the "bigger is better" mentality. Sheep are a bit smaller boned, proportionately, and they reproduce a lot faster!!! Terry --- Susan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Terry, County Fairs and State Fairs from my > understanding do the > exotic/different breeds exhibits. > I wish you luck with 4-H. Sue > > > > > >From: Terry Wereb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale > >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:56:29 -0800 (PST) > > > >Okay-- when I get my sheep-ses- I will see what I > can > >do for sheep! I am also considering rare breed > >rabbits. Maybe I can go through the ALBC membership > >directory, and "Borrow" a few other breeds/species > for > >"display purposes only" for my local fairs-- there > are > >four on four consecutive weekends here-- and one of > >them is THE GREAT GEAUGA COUNTY FAIR!!! ( Last fair > of > >the year in Ohio. Always well attended-- AND the > one > >of the two local ones that the AMISH attend. And I > >already know that those communities are looking for > >something to help with their farm economics- a few > are > >already raising goats for the ethnic markets, but > have > >few resources to get them there! And I can help > with > >that! > > > >Terry > > > >--- Susan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I agree that is a great idea Terry! Speaking > from > > > my own experience about > > > puting up an exibit like that at a 4-H Fair, I > ran > > > into a bunch of "well, > > > we'll have to ask the fair board, or there is no > > > monies for extra exibits, > > > etc." There was so much of that I just quit > trying. > > > Not that you all > > > should quit, but after 3 years of it I just > decided > > > to quit trying. I even > > > tried to give preimuns to the children who won > in > > > "all breed" classes as an > > > incentive to show other breeds of sheep, > including > > > Blackbellys and > > > 4-H wouldn't let me. If you could get a lot of > > > people together who have > > > different breeds of anything animal wise then go > for > > > it. I still believe > > > there is a place for Blackbellys at the fairs. > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Terry Wereb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > > >To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > > >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale > > > >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:19:56 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > >Would county or state fairs have objections to > > > >"exhibits" that were not competeing? I noticed > at > > > my > > > >county's fair last year that there were no meat > > > >goats-- just dairy breeds. All the sheep were > > > woolies. > > > >One lady had a Scottish Highland cow and her > calf > > > >there-- but I believe it was entered as a beef > > > >contender. There is one person who brings Irish > > > >Dexter's-- and has a stand-up display of them > > > working > > > >under yoke. > > > > Getting a bunch of rare breeds together > under > > > one > > > >tent, so to speak, may be a great way to spread > the > > > >word about other issues-- to more than just > > > >agricultural people! And if the animals have > been > > > >handled so that they are docile (with and > without > > > >horns)and "socialized" to the experience, then > that > > > is > > > >all the better
Re: [blackbelly] for sale
Good Luck Terry and please keep in touch with your results!! Sue From: Terry Wereb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:35:32 -0800 (PST) I figure "do what the alpaca people did" In other words-- create a demand!!! But not on the Alpaca scale--Quite frankly, I like Alpaca. llamas, etc-- but I am NOT going to pay the equivalent of what, for me, is two years of income for one animal! I will visit my extension office tomorrow and see if maybe I can get a foot into the 4-H door. There is not a lot of real animal agriculture going on in this county-- but the two neighboring counties are pretty much nothing but rural. A friend passed on to me, via e-mail, an article on how the mini-cows can actually be used to produce more beef per acre than a full-sized cow, and I am thinking that would be a great way to "sell" the smaller hair sheep to the "bigger is better" mentality. Sheep are a bit smaller boned, proportionately, and they reproduce a lot faster!!! Terry --- Susan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Terry, County Fairs and State Fairs from my > understanding do the > exotic/different breeds exhibits. > I wish you luck with 4-H. Sue > > > > > >From: Terry Wereb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale > >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:56:29 -0800 (PST) > > > >Okay-- when I get my sheep-ses- I will see what I > can > >do for sheep! I am also considering rare breed > >rabbits. Maybe I can go through the ALBC membership > >directory, and "Borrow" a few other breeds/species > for > >"display purposes only" for my local fairs-- there > are > >four on four consecutive weekends here-- and one of > >them is THE GREAT GEAUGA COUNTY FAIR!!! ( Last fair > of > >the year in Ohio. Always well attended-- AND the > one > >of the two local ones that the AMISH attend. And I > >already know that those communities are looking for > >something to help with their farm economics- a few > are > >already raising goats for the ethnic markets, but > have > >few resources to get them there! And I can help > with > >that! > > > >Terry > > > >--- Susan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I agree that is a great idea Terry! Speaking > from > > > my own experience about > > > puting up an exibit like that at a 4-H Fair, I > ran > > > into a bunch of "well, > > > we'll have to ask the fair board, or there is no > > > monies for extra exibits, > > > etc." There was so much of that I just quit > trying. > > > Not that you all > > > should quit, but after 3 years of it I just > decided > > > to quit trying. I even > > > tried to give preimuns to the children who won > in > > > "all breed" classes as an > > > incentive to show other breeds of sheep, > including > > > Blackbellys and > > > 4-H wouldn't let me. If you could get a lot of > > > people together who have > > > different breeds of anything animal wise then go > for > > > it. I still believe > > > there is a place for Blackbellys at the fairs. > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Terry Wereb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > > >To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > > >Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale > > > >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:19:56 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > >Would county or state fairs have objections to > > > >"exhibits" that were not competeing? I noticed > at > > > my > > > >county's fair last year that there were no meat > > > >goats-- just dairy breeds. All the sheep were > > > woolies. > > > >One lady had a Scottish Highland cow and her > calf > > > >there-- but I believe it was entered as a beef > > > >contender. There is one person who brings Irish > > > >Dexter's-- and has a stand-up display of them > > > working > > > >under yoke. > > > > Getting a bunch of rare breeds together > under > > > one > > > >tent, so to speak, may be a great way to spread > the > > > >word about other issues-- to more than
Re: [blackbelly] For Sale--Purebred Polled Barbados Blackbelly Ram Lamb
Carol What do you have to do to get the genotype test. I asked the vet that I use here in OK and he had no info. I would probably have to haul to prague or chandler. Thanks OJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:25 AM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] For Sale--Purebred Polled Barbados Blackbelly Ram Lamb Folks, I have one remaining ram lamb for sale that I can now make available to the public. This ram's sire is genotyped RR for scrapie at codon 171. (Just received these results from the lab a couple weeks ago.) Therefore, the lamb is guaranteed to have at least one R alele, which will help you work toward a genetically scrapie-resistant flock. Price: $175 His photo is at http://www.critterhaven.biz/sale/livestock.htm Ron Keener is scheduling his next April/May run, so if you want to transport this ram, please contact Ron soon. His fee will be around $400. I will hold the ram for 30 days upon receipt of a 50% deposit. Please contact me as soon as possible if you wish to purchase this ram. Unfortunately, I do not have any ewe lambs to go with him, but hopefully will have some later this fall. Carol Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
