Re: Move package management to LFS

2006-01-24 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/24/06, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As recently discussed on the lfs-dev list and in the related bug
> (http://bugs.linuxfromscratch.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1676), LFS would like
> to acquire the package management info that BLFS has.  I've attached a
> patch (`svn diff` format) that removes the information from BLFS, on the
> assumption that you guys won't object to the approach we'd like to take.
>   Obviously, if you do have any concerns, then shout and I'll stop dead
> in my tracks.
>

One addition. It would be nice to link to specific hints related to
package management (similar to how we do it for the more_control_.)

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Re: Move package management to LFS

2006-01-24 Thread Matthew Burgess

Tushar Teredesai wrote:

On 1/24/06, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


As recently discussed on the lfs-dev list and in the related bug
(http://bugs.linuxfromscratch.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1676), LFS would like
to acquire the package management info that BLFS has.


One addition. It would be nice to link to specific hints related to
package management (similar to how we do it for the more_control_.)


With or without a brief synopsis of each?  From looking at the hints 
project (which is already linked to on the Package Management page) I 
can see:


http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/fakeroot.txt
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/more_control_and_pkg_man.txt
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/alfs_paco.txt (not 
sure this is applicable, as it assumes the use of nALFS)

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/rpm.txt
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/paco.txt
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/lpm.txt
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/pm_with_git.txt

If we link to some or all of these, I worry that we will have to 
continually monitor the status of the hints, i.e. to see if they still 
apply to the current version of LFS and that they haven't fallen into 
the "Unmaintained" bucket.


Regards,

Matt.
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Re: Move package management to LFS

2006-01-24 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/24/06, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> If we link to some or all of these, I worry that we will have to
> continually monitor the status of the hints, i.e. to see if they still
> apply to the current version of LFS and that they haven't fallen into
> the "Unmaintained" bucket.
>

You are right. But the link to more_control should remain since it is unique:-)

Well, the *real* reason that I mentioned the hints is coz I wanted a
link to my fakeroot hint ;-)

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Re: Move package management to LFS

2006-01-24 Thread Matthew Burgess

Tushar Teredesai wrote:

On 1/24/06, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If we link to some or all of these, I worry that we will have to
continually monitor the status of the hints, i.e. to see if they still
apply to the current version of LFS and that they haven't fallen into
the "Unmaintained" bucket.


You are right. But the link to more_control should remain since it is unique:-)

Well, the *real* reason that I mentioned the hints is coz I wanted a
link to my fakeroot hint ;-)


Well, I believe that particular hint is a good example of the "Creating 
Package Archives" technique, right?  If so, I certainly don't mind 
creating a link to the fakeroot hint in that section.


Regards,

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Re: Move package management to LFS

2006-01-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote:
> Hi folks.
> 
> As recently discussed on the lfs-dev list and in the related bug
> (http://bugs.linuxfromscratch.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1676), LFS would like
> to acquire the package management info that BLFS has.  I've attached a
> patch (`svn diff` format) that removes the information from BLFS, on the
> assumption that you guys won't object to the approach we'd like to take.
>  Obviously, if you do have any concerns, then shout and I'll stop dead
> in my tracks.

Matt,
  I'm going to hold off deleting the section completely until after I
see what is put into LFS.  We *may* want to supplement that is there or
reference it in the BLFS package management section.

  Go ahead and put into LFS whatever you think is appropriate and we'll
"do the right thing" afterward.

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Re: Move package management to LFS

2006-01-25 Thread Matthew Burgess

Bruce Dubbs wrote:

Matthew Burgess wrote:


Bruce Dubbs wrote:



Go ahead and put into LFS whatever you think is appropriate and we'll
"do the right thing" afterward.



OK, this is now in LFS as of r7301.



I think you need to review the text:


I already did...honest :-)


"Package Management is an often requested addition to the LFS Book."

You just added that.

"Some reasons why no package manager is mentioned in LFS or BLFS include:"


OK, it'd probably be more accurate as "Some reasons why no single 
package manager is recommended in LFS include:"



" Note

As no particular package management technique is mentioned in LFS, the
commands in the remainder of this book must be performed while logged in
as user root and no longer as user lfs. Also, double check that $LFS is
set."

You now mention several.


Well, they were mentioned before!  Again, changing "mentioned" to 
"recommended".


Thanks for your comments Bruce,

Matt.
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