Re: helper or html tag ?
interesting.. I didnt think wrote: > You can use - I am pretty > sure this is standard behaviour, at least I have not run into any > troubles with it. > > My designer generally does the mock ups and then I place the actual > php code in the mocks. I find that this works best for the way I > work, and most designers get a little consfused when you say "just > loop over it" and stuff like that that us developers just know. > > Geoff > --http://lemoncake.wordpress.com > > On Oct 1, 11:28 am, Adwin Wijaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > my designer knows very well about css, but we still use table and css > > (mixing) because, sometimes it would be harder to do design with css. > > if i use htmlhelper, it would be easier .. but for my designer, he > > might not understand about php code at all. and if he asking me to > > change the code or order of the code , it would takes my time as > > well ... > > > btw, is cakephp 1.2 or later, will use templating like in rails ? (or > > is it already there ? ) > > I hate to see echo everywhere on my templates, it looks terrible > > i would love to see like link(.) ?> or like in the > > smarty {$html->link()} > > > thx you > > adwin > > > On Sep 29, 12:20 pm, FallenJehova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > If your designer knows css, I would recommend using the htmlhelper. > > > It's is very simple and fast to use for you, and as all elements are > > > styleable, he'll would have no problem working with them. > > > > I am one of those who thinks that php is already a template language > > > and smarty's features does not compensate the loss of simplicity and > > > the processing overhead it produces. > > > > proce > > > On 28 sep, 23:38, Adwin Wijaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > for you, who are playing with cakephp for quite long, are you using > > > > htmlhelper or just use plain html code or smarty ? > > > > > i myself, get used with smarty for about 3 years and my web designer > > > > is get used with it (he just know how to do html and css, no idea > > > > about scripting). > > > > > can you give me the advantages using cakephp helper object over using > > > > smarty ? > > > > especially for the easy of use --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: helper or html tag ?
You can use - I am pretty sure this is standard behaviour, at least I have not run into any troubles with it. My designer generally does the mock ups and then I place the actual php code in the mocks. I find that this works best for the way I work, and most designers get a little consfused when you say "just loop over it" and stuff like that that us developers just know. Geoff -- http://lemoncake.wordpress.com On Oct 1, 11:28 am, Adwin Wijaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my designer knows very well about css, but we still use table and css > (mixing) because, sometimes it would be harder to do design with css. > if i use htmlhelper, it would be easier .. but for my designer, he > might not understand about php code at all. and if he asking me to > change the code or order of the code , it would takes my time as > well ... > > btw, is cakephp 1.2 or later, will use templating like in rails ? (or > is it already there ? ) > I hate to see echo everywhere on my templates, it looks terrible > i would love to see like link(.) ?> or like in the > smarty {$html->link()} > > thx you > adwin > > On Sep 29, 12:20 pm, FallenJehova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > If your designer knows css, I would recommend using the htmlhelper. > > It's is very simple and fast to use for you, and as all elements are > > styleable, he'll would have no problem working with them. > > > I am one of those who thinks that php is already a template language > > and smarty's features does not compensate the loss of simplicity and > > the processing overhead it produces. > > > proce > > On 28 sep, 23:38, Adwin Wijaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > for you, who are playing with cakephp for quite long, are you using > > > htmlhelper or just use plain html code or smarty ? > > > > i myself, get used with smarty for about 3 years and my web designer > > > is get used with it (he just know how to do html and css, no idea > > > about scripting). > > > > can you give me the advantages using cakephp helper object over using > > > smarty ? > > > especially for the easy of use --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: helper or html tag ?
my designer knows very well about css, but we still use table and css (mixing) because, sometimes it would be harder to do design with css. if i use htmlhelper, it would be easier .. but for my designer, he might not understand about php code at all. and if he asking me to change the code or order of the code , it would takes my time as well ... btw, is cakephp 1.2 or later, will use templating like in rails ? (or is it already there ? ) I hate to see echo everywhere on my templates, it looks terrible i would love to see like link(.) ?> or like in the smarty {$html->link()} thx you adwin On Sep 29, 12:20 pm, FallenJehova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > If your designer knows css, I would recommend using the htmlhelper. > It's is very simple and fast to use for you, and as all elements are > styleable, he'll would have no problem working with them. > > I am one of those who thinks that php is already a template language > and smarty's features does not compensate the loss of simplicity and > the processing overhead it produces. > > proce > On 28 sep, 23:38, Adwin Wijaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > for you, who are playing with cakephp for quite long, are you using > > htmlhelper or just use plain html code or smarty ? > > > i myself, get used with smarty for about 3 years and my web designer > > is get used with it (he just know how to do html and css, no idea > > about scripting). > > > can you give me the advantages using cakephp helper object over using > > smarty ? > > especially for the easy of use --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: helper or html tag ?
Hi, If your designer knows css, I would recommend using the htmlhelper. It's is very simple and fast to use for you, and as all elements are styleable, he'll would have no problem working with them. I am one of those who thinks that php is already a template language and smarty's features does not compensate the loss of simplicity and the processing overhead it produces. proce On 28 sep, 23:38, Adwin Wijaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > for you, who are playing with cakephp for quite long, are you using > htmlhelper or just use plain html code or smarty ? > > i myself, get used with smarty for about 3 years and my web designer > is get used with it (he just know how to do html and css, no idea > about scripting). > > can you give me the advantages using cakephp helper object over using > smarty ? > especially for the easy of use --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: helper or html tag ?
Oh so you *do* have a brain :) Sorry, this is the Pinot Noir talking -MI --- Remember, smart coders answer ten questions for every question they ask. So be smart, be cool, and share your knowledge. BAKE ON! blog: http://www.MarianoIglesias.com.ar -Mensaje original- De: cake-php@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Chris Hartjes Enviado el: Sábado, 29 de Septiembre de 2007 12:22 a.m. Para: cake-php@googlegroups.com Asunto: Re: helper or html tag ? I use HTML helper all I can because I like have a programmatic way to do complicated HTML tags instead of figuring it all out by hand. Just the way my brain is wired I guess. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: helper or html tag ?
On 9/28/07, Adwin Wijaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > for you, who are playing with cakephp for quite long, are you using > htmlhelper or just use plain html code or smarty ? > > i myself, get used with smarty for about 3 years and my web designer > is get used with it (he just know how to do html and css, no idea > about scripting). > > can you give me the advantages using cakephp helper object over using > smarty ? > especially for the easy of use I use HTML helper all I can because I like have a programmatic way to do complicated HTML tags instead of figuring it all out by hand. Just the way my brain is wired I guess. -- Chris Hartjes Senior Developer Cake Development Corporation http://www.cakedevelopment.com My motto for 2007: "Just build it, damnit!" @TheKeyboard - http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
helper or html tag ?
Hi, for you, who are playing with cakephp for quite long, are you using htmlhelper or just use plain html code or smarty ? i myself, get used with smarty for about 3 years and my web designer is get used with it (he just know how to do html and css, no idea about scripting). can you give me the advantages using cakephp helper object over using smarty ? especially for the easy of use --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---