Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with making covalent bonds in phenix by LINK or edits file

2014-04-03 Thread Joel Tyndall
Dear Xiaoming,

I would try using the graphical interface within phenix refine to add in the 
bond length/angle constraints for your link. This seemed to work fine with our 
system without actually needing a link record.

J

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Xiaoming 
Ren
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014 9:17 a.m.
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Problem with making covalent bonds in phenix by LINK or edits 
file

Dear all:

I am encountering a problem. I built a monomer model which is a modified 
nucleotide with Sketcher in ccp4 suite and generated the .cif file of this 
monomer. However, I could not make it bind with other nucleotides in the 
nucleic acid chain. I have tried to write LINK lines into PDB file, and also 
edited .edits file for phenix.refine. In both conditions, phenix.refine works 
except that it wouldn't add covalent bonds between the residues as I expected.

I have used .edits file for covalent binding between residues before, and it 
worked well.

So there must be something wrong with my input files. But I couldn't fighure 
out where the problem is. 

Thanks a lot and best regards!
Xiaoming


Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with making covalent bonds in phenix by LINK or edits file

2014-04-03 Thread Nigel Moriarty
Xiaoming

Can you send me the three residues in question (or the whole model) and the
files you have so I can point you in the right direction.

Cheers

Nigel


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Xiaoming Ren wrote:

> Dear all:
>
> I am encountering a problem. I built a monomer model which is a modified
> nucleotide with Sketcher in ccp4 suite and generated the .cif file of this
> monomer. However, I could not make it bind with other nucleotides in the
> nucleic acid chain. I have tried to write LINK lines into PDB file, and
> also edited .edits file for phenix.refine. In both conditions,
> phenix.refine works except that it wouldn't add covalent bonds between the
> residues as I expected.
>
> I have used .edits file for covalent binding between residues before, and
> it worked well.
>
> So there must be something wrong with my input files. But I couldn't
> fighure out where the problem is.
>
> Thanks a lot and best regards!
> Xiaoming
>



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[ccp4bb] Problem with making covalent bonds in phenix by LINK or edits file

2014-04-03 Thread Xiaoming Ren
Dear all:

I am encountering a problem. I built a monomer model which is a modified 
nucleotide with Sketcher in ccp4 suite and generated the .cif file of this 
monomer. However, I could not make it bind with other nucleotides in the 
nucleic acid chain. I have tried to write LINK lines into PDB file, and also 
edited .edits file for phenix.refine. In both conditions, phenix.refine works 
except that it wouldn't add covalent bonds between the residues as I expected.

I have used .edits file for covalent binding between residues before, and it 
worked well.

So there must be something wrong with my input files. But I couldn't fighure 
out where the problem is. 

Thanks a lot and best regards!
Xiaoming


Re: [ccp4bb] First stucture of FCFV

2014-04-03 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Those who use lysozyme as a model protein should note that fungal spores of
an unknown strain can have a dramatic effect on lysozyme crystal
nucleation, as noticed by my student many years ago (I wasn't completely
happy with the report because we never knew what we were working with!).

Chayen, N. E., Radcliffe, J. W., & Blow, D. M. (1993). Control of
nucleation in the crystallization of lysozyme. *Protein Science*, *2*(1),
113-118.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/pro.5560020112/full


I've often wondered why crystallization experiments at room temp don't
become a sea of bacteria and fungi within a week.  Is it because the high
precipitant concs used stop growth?  After all, medical saline is only 150
mM - much less than the average NaCl conc used for crystallization, which
is about 1.7M.  I guess not many bugs can grow in 20% PEG either.

Patrick




On 3 April 2014 15:25, Reza Khayat  wrote:

> I think fungus dependent crystallization has occurred for some
> labs. A paper that pops into mind is from my graduate
> laboratory (not my work though):
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2225192/
>
> Reza
>
> Reza Khayat, PhD
> Assistant Professor
> The City College of New York
> Department of Chemistry, MR-1135
> 160 Convent Avenue
> New York, NY  10031
> Tel. (212) 650-6070
> www.khayatlab.org
>
>
>  Original message 
> >Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 06:36:37 -0700
> >From: CCP4 bulletin board  (on behalf
> of Chad Brautigam )
> >Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] First stucture of FCFV
> >To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >
> >   I once encountered mold-dependent crystallization of
> >   a protein.  Wouldn't that have made for a lively
> >   Methods section?
> >   Luckily, we determined the structure from crystals
> >   derived from a different, non-moldy condition.
> >   Whew.
> >   Chad
> >   From: Artem Evdokimov 
> >   To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >   Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 7:55 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] First stucture of FCFV
> >   Common molds like aspergillus or penicillium. After
> >   a while you sometimes get sporangia, then you can
> >   tell with more certainty. ..
> >   A.
> >   On Apr 3, 2014 3:50 AM, "Bernhard Rupp"
> >wrote:
> >
> > Several people were asking what this FCFV
> > tentacles actually might be. I think it is some
> > fungus/yeast growing out of nutritious drops. Does
> > resemble fungus/mushroom mycelium. I have also
> > some that look like huge bacteriophages with nice
> > heads on them, probably yeast buds. There is also
> > a yeast lab next to the Xtallization facility :-/
> > *** feel free to speculate.
> >
> > Best, BR
> >
> >
>



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Re: [ccp4bb] loggraph not popping up after refmac5 ccp4-6.4

2014-04-03 Thread hari jayaram
Hi all ..
loggraph seems to be broken on Redhat 6.5 . It may be a "blt"  error. Can
someone confirm that they can get loggraph to work on Redhat Enterprise 6.5
with the ccp4 provided binaries.

Sadly Redhat nor Activestate provide "blt" replacements

In all cases the loggraph starts a blank window ready to plot a graph and
then fails with the error

"Error in startup script: syntax error in expression "10 11 12 + 12": extra
tokens at end of expression
while executing
"expr [string trim $ele] + $data(NCOLUMNS) "
(procedure "extract_tables_from_GRAPH" line 44)
invoked from within
"extract_tables_from_$filetype $input $arrayname"
(procedure "extract_tables_from_file" line 31)
invoked from within
"extract_tables_from_file $system(SCRIPT) $system(FORMAT) data"
invoked from within
"if { $system(SCRIPT) != "" } {
  if { ![ElementExists system FORMAT] || $system(FORMAT) == "" } {
 set system(FORMAT) [GetFileFormat $system(SCRI..."
(file
"/home/yong.tang/ccp4_root/ccp4-6.4.0/share/ccp4i/loggraph/loggraph.tcl"
line 2324)
invoked from within
"source [file join $env(CCP4I_TOP) loggraph loggraph.tcl]"
(file
"/home/yong.tang/ccp4_root/ccp4-6.4.0/share/ccp4i/bin/loggraph.tcl" line 83)
"

Sadly We cannot go back to using Ubuntu where this was working.

The CCP4 provided  blt, bltsh and wish binaries seem to work fine ..its
only loggraph that fails .

We are using the current ccp4 installed yesterday.

I also tried using Activestate wish and combining it with ccp4 provided
bltsh ..but in that case I get the error :

package require blt

Thanks

Hari ( and Yong)




On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Yong Tang  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Further to my earlier email..I am running ccp4 6.4 , on 64 bit Redhat
> Linux 6.5
>
> I cannot see loggraphs with View-Files-From-Job - View Log Graphs--
>
> That throws an error in the shell. This is the same error  I see when coot
> finishes refmac5 as well.
> It seems that the loggraph tcl script is broken somehow.
>
> Any ideas on how to fix.
> Thank you for your help
>
>
> Yong
>
>
> Top level CCP4 directory is /home/yong/ccp4_root/ccp4-6.4.0
> Using CCP4 programs from /home/yong/ccp4_root/ccp4-6.4.0/bin
> Error in startup script: syntax error in expression "10 11 12 + 12": extra
> tokens at end of expression
> while executing
> "expr [string trim $ele] + $data(NCOLUMNS) "
> (procedure "extract_tables_from_GRAPH" line 44)
> invoked from within
> "extract_tables_from_$filetype $input $arrayname"
> (procedure "extract_tables_from_file" line 31)
> invoked from within
> "extract_tables_from_file $system(SCRIPT) $system(FORMAT) data"
> invoked from within
> "if { $system(SCRIPT) != "" } {
>   if { ![ElementExists system FORMAT] || $system(FORMAT) == "" } {
>  set system(FORMAT) [GetFileFormat $system(SCRI..."
> (file
> "/home/yong.tang/ccp4_root/ccp4-6.4.0/share/ccp4i/loggraph/loggraph.tcl"
> line 2324)
> invoked from within
> "source [file join $env(CCP4I_TOP) loggraph loggraph.tcl]"
> (file
> "/home/yong.tang/ccp4_root/ccp4-6.4.0/share/ccp4i/bin/loggraph.tcl" line 83)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Yong Tang  wrote:
>
>> Hi ,
>> I have just switched to a new computer with ccp4 6.4 and binary coot
>> installed from Paul Emsleys nightlies.
>>
>> When I run refmac5 inside coot or run refmac5 inside ccp4,  the loggraph
>> does not pop-up at the end of a refmac run. I looked everywhere in settings
>> inside ccp4i or inside coot and could not re-enable loggraph popup.
>>
>> Can someone tell me what setting I need to change to have the old style
>> loggraphs popup ? .
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Yong
>>
>> --
>>  Yong Tang
>>
>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] First stucture of FCFV

2014-04-03 Thread Reza Khayat
I think fungus dependent crystallization has occurred for some 
labs. A paper that pops into mind is from my graduate 
laboratory (not my work though):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2225192/

Reza

Reza Khayat, PhD
Assistant Professor
The City College of New York
Department of Chemistry, MR-1135
160 Convent Avenue
New York, NY  10031
Tel. (212) 650-6070
www.khayatlab.org


 Original message 
>Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 06:36:37 -0700
>From: CCP4 bulletin board  (on behalf 
of Chad Brautigam )
>Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] First stucture of FCFV  
>To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
>   I once encountered mold-dependent crystallization of
>   a protein.  Wouldn't that have made for a lively
>   Methods section?
>   Luckily, we determined the structure from crystals
>   derived from a different, non-moldy condition.
>   Whew.
>   Chad
>   From: Artem Evdokimov 
>   To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>   Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 7:55 AM
>   Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] First stucture of FCFV
>   Common molds like aspergillus or penicillium. After
>   a while you sometimes get sporangia, then you can
>   tell with more certainty. ..
>   A.
>   On Apr 3, 2014 3:50 AM, "Bernhard Rupp"
>wrote:
>
> Several people were asking what this FCFV
> tentacles actually might be. I think it is some
> fungus/yeast growing out of nutritious drops. Does
> resemble fungus/mushroom mycelium. I have also
> some that look like huge bacteriophages with nice
> heads on them, probably yeast buds. There is also
> a yeast lab next to the Xtallization facility :-/
> *** feel free to speculate.
>
> Best, BR
>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] First stucture of FCFV

2014-04-03 Thread Chad Brautigam
I once encountered mold-dependent crystallization of a protein.  Wouldn't that 
have made for a lively Methods section?

Luckily, we determined the structure from crystals derived from a different, 
non-moldy condition.  Whew.

Chad
 


 From: Artem Evdokimov 
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] First stucture of FCFV
  


Common molds like aspergillus or penicillium. After a while you sometimes get 
sporangia, then you can tell with more certainty. .. 
A. 
On Apr 3, 2014 3:50 AM, "Bernhard Rupp"  wrote:

Several people were asking what this FCFV tentacles actually might be. I think 
it is some fungus/yeast growing out of nutritious drops. Does resemble 
fungus/mushroom mycelium. I have also some that look like huge bacteriophages 
with nice heads on them, probably yeast buds. There is also a yeast lab next to 
the Xtallization facility :-/ … feel free to speculate. 
> 
>Best, BR 
> 
>  

Re: [ccp4bb] First stucture of FCFV

2014-04-03 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Common molds like aspergillus or penicillium. After a while you sometimes
get sporangia, then you can tell with more certainty. ..

A.
On Apr 3, 2014 3:50 AM, "Bernhard Rupp"  wrote:

> Several people were asking what this FCFV tentacles actually might be. I
> think it is some fungus/yeast growing out of nutritious drops. Does
> resemble fungus/mushroom mycelium. I have also some that look like huge
> bacteriophages with nice heads on them, probably yeast buds. There is also
> a yeast lab next to the Xtallization facility :-/ ... feel free to speculate.
>
>
>
> Best, BR
>
>
>
>
>


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2014-04-03 Thread Hans-Petter Hersleth
Dear all,
 
A 4-year PhD position in Structural Biology starting August 2014 is available 
at University of Oslo, Department of Biosciences, Section for Biochemistry and 
Molecular Biology. The position is funded by the Research Council of Norway and 
the University of Oslo.
 
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--
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Section for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
P.O.Box 1066 Blindern, NO-0316 Oslo, Norway
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Re: [ccp4bb] First stucture of FCFV

2014-04-03 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Several people were asking what this FCFV tentacles actually might be. I
think it is some fungus/yeast growing out of nutritious drops. Does resemble
fungus/mushroom mycelium. I have also some that look like huge
bacteriophages with nice heads on them, probably yeast buds. There is also a
yeast lab next to the Xtallization facility :-/ . feel free to speculate.

 

Best, BR