Re: (ot) A word of hosting caution

2011-05-03 Thread Scott Stewart

I moved my blog out of there a while ago, I found Allurium
http://alurium.com/clients/aff.php?aff=011
I couldn't beat  the price.

As an FYI, they're running Railo, if your code is running anything
specific to ACF then you'll need to make changes.

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Bryan Stevenson
 wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just a notice to possibly help save someone some grief if you host at
> Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com before the merger).
>
> Make sure that they have your account up to date!!
>
> They have a policy where if they find a database who's name is not found
> on anyone's account - they blindly delete it with no notice!!!
>
> This is an odd policy given the number of errors I found in our own
> accountI can only assume other accounts are in similar states and
> this policy could be destructive.
>
> One of our SQL Server DBs on a shared box had a name that WAS the same
> as the datasource setup pointing to it, however it was not the name they
> had on file with our account.
>
> Boomthe DB for the backend of our corporate site was gone!
>
> Thankfully they still had  a backup.
>
> So just a  word of caution to make sure your accounts are up to date and
> accurate or you might just get a nasty surprise ;-)
>
> ...and for the record, this is not sour grapes in any wayjust
> looking out for the community.the issue was resolved to my
> satisfaction.
>
> Cheers
> --
>
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> phone: 250.480.0642
> fax: 250.480.1264
> cell: 250.920.8830
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> web: www.electricedgesystems.com
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Re: (ot) A word of hosting caution

2011-05-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Yes I saw the samejust wasn't going to rant as we are already in the
processing of moving to Viviotech ;-)

+1 on the no shared hosting.in our case it was  a small DB left
behind after we went VPS at HMS.

It's truly sadevery awesome host I've ever dealt with has gone
through a merger that killed all the reasons why I selected them in the
first place

Cheers

On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 09:29 -0700, Sean Corfield wrote:

> To be honest, after HMS became part of Hosting.com, their service went
> so far downhill so fast that I moved everything to other hosting
> companies. HMS used to be awesome when Lou and Neil were in charge but
> after the acquisition I had nothing but problems and once Lou and Neil
> left things really fell apart :(
> 
> And can I just take this opportunity yet again to say that shared
> hosting is not appropriate to run a business on? Anyone on the same
> server can read your entire application scope and get access to any
> information you have cached there - and the uptime of your business is
> dependent on the good behavior of everyone who shares that server.
> 
> I ran my blog on HMS shared hosting for several years but eventually
> had to move it to VPS due to performance problems (I suspect HMS put
> 100's of customers on each server...). Later I had performance
> problems with the HMS VPS as well (again, too many customers sharing a
> server I think). Now I'm on an EWH enterprise cloud server (which I
> believe has a strictly limited number of customers per box?).
> 
> Sean
> 
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Bryan Stevenson
>  wrote:
> > Just a notice to possibly help save someone some grief if you host at
> > Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com before the merger).
> >
> > Make sure that they have your account up to date!!
> >
> > They have a policy where if they find a database who's name is not found
> > on anyone's account - they blindly delete it with no notice!!!
> >
> > This is an odd policy given the number of errors I found in our own
> > accountI can only assume other accounts are in similar states and
> > this policy could be destructive.
> >
> > One of our SQL Server DBs on a shared box had a name that WAS the same
> > as the datasource setup pointing to it, however it was not the name they
> > had on file with our account.
> >
> > Boomthe DB for the backend of our corporate site was gone!
> >
> > Thankfully they still had  a backup.
> >
> > So just a  word of caution to make sure your accounts are up to date and
> > accurate or you might just get a nasty surprise ;-)
> >
> > ...and for the record, this is not sour grapes in any wayjust
> > looking out for the community.the issue was resolved to my
> > satisfaction.
> >
> > Chee
> 
> 

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Re: (ot) A word of hosting caution

2011-05-03 Thread Wil Genovese

Sean,

let me add that I have written code that not only accesses ALL the application 
scopes running on a shared server, but I can also wrote code that can access 
all the session scopes inside each application.  

Shared hosting is not a safe secure option for a business.  



Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

wilg...@trunkful.com
www.trunkful.com

On May 3, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Sean Corfield wrote:

> 
> To be honest, after HMS became part of Hosting.com, their service went
> so far downhill so fast that I moved everything to other hosting
> companies. HMS used to be awesome when Lou and Neil were in charge but
> after the acquisition I had nothing but problems and once Lou and Neil
> left things really fell apart :(
> 
> And can I just take this opportunity yet again to say that shared
> hosting is not appropriate to run a business on? Anyone on the same
> server can read your entire application scope and get access to any
> information you have cached there - and the uptime of your business is
> dependent on the good behavior of everyone who shares that server.
> 
> I ran my blog on HMS shared hosting for several years but eventually
> had to move it to VPS due to performance problems (I suspect HMS put
> 100's of customers on each server...). Later I had performance
> problems with the HMS VPS as well (again, too many customers sharing a
> server I think). Now I'm on an EWH enterprise cloud server (which I
> believe has a strictly limited number of customers per box?).
> 
> Sean
> 
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Bryan Stevenson
>  wrote:
>> Just a notice to possibly help save someone some grief if you host at
>> Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com before the merger).
>> 
>> Make sure that they have your account up to date!!
>> 
>> They have a policy where if they find a database who's name is not found
>> on anyone's account - they blindly delete it with no notice!!!
>> 
>> This is an odd policy given the number of errors I found in our own
>> accountI can only assume other accounts are in similar states and
>> this policy could be destructive.
>> 
>> One of our SQL Server DBs on a shared box had a name that WAS the same
>> as the datasource setup pointing to it, however it was not the name they
>> had on file with our account.
>> 
>> Boomthe DB for the backend of our corporate site was gone!
>> 
>> Thankfully they still had  a backup.
>> 
>> So just a  word of caution to make sure your accounts are up to date and
>> accurate or you might just get a nasty surprise ;-)
>> 
>> ...and for the record, this is not sour grapes in any wayjust
>> looking out for the community.the issue was resolved to my
>> satisfaction.
>> 
>> Chee
> 
> 

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Re: (ot) A word of hosting caution

2011-05-03 Thread Sean Corfield

To be honest, after HMS became part of Hosting.com, their service went
so far downhill so fast that I moved everything to other hosting
companies. HMS used to be awesome when Lou and Neil were in charge but
after the acquisition I had nothing but problems and once Lou and Neil
left things really fell apart :(

And can I just take this opportunity yet again to say that shared
hosting is not appropriate to run a business on? Anyone on the same
server can read your entire application scope and get access to any
information you have cached there - and the uptime of your business is
dependent on the good behavior of everyone who shares that server.

I ran my blog on HMS shared hosting for several years but eventually
had to move it to VPS due to performance problems (I suspect HMS put
100's of customers on each server...). Later I had performance
problems with the HMS VPS as well (again, too many customers sharing a
server I think). Now I'm on an EWH enterprise cloud server (which I
believe has a strictly limited number of customers per box?).

Sean

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Bryan Stevenson
 wrote:
> Just a notice to possibly help save someone some grief if you host at
> Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com before the merger).
>
> Make sure that they have your account up to date!!
>
> They have a policy where if they find a database who's name is not found
> on anyone's account - they blindly delete it with no notice!!!
>
> This is an odd policy given the number of errors I found in our own
> accountI can only assume other accounts are in similar states and
> this policy could be destructive.
>
> One of our SQL Server DBs on a shared box had a name that WAS the same
> as the datasource setup pointing to it, however it was not the name they
> had on file with our account.
>
> Boomthe DB for the backend of our corporate site was gone!
>
> Thankfully they still had  a backup.
>
> So just a  word of caution to make sure your accounts are up to date and
> accurate or you might just get a nasty surprise ;-)
>
> ...and for the record, this is not sour grapes in any wayjust
> looking out for the community.the issue was resolved to my
> satisfaction.
>
> Chee

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(ot) A word of hosting caution

2011-05-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Hi All,

Just a notice to possibly help save someone some grief if you host at
Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com before the merger).

Make sure that they have your account up to date!!

They have a policy where if they find a database who's name is not found
on anyone's account - they blindly delete it with no notice!!!

This is an odd policy given the number of errors I found in our own
accountI can only assume other accounts are in similar states and
this policy could be destructive.

One of our SQL Server DBs on a shared box had a name that WAS the same
as the datasource setup pointing to it, however it was not the name they
had on file with our account.

Boomthe DB for the backend of our corporate site was gone!

Thankfully they still had  a backup.

So just a  word of caution to make sure your accounts are up to date and
accurate or you might just get a nasty surprise ;-)

...and for the record, this is not sour grapes in any wayjust
looking out for the community.the issue was resolved to my
satisfaction.

Cheers
-- 


Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com
web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 
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