Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
On Wednesday 18 Mar 2009, Rick Faircloth wrote: > So, do quad core processors just give you 4 times as much > "room" to put users on a system as a single core? It's not that linear - we fundamentally do not know how to write compilers that can parallelise our code well, so as you add more cores, the benefits of adding 'just one more' drop off. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to administratively evolve killer unique enterprise-class synergies as part of the IT team of the year, '09 and '08 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.co ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320623 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
> So, do quad core processors just give you 4 times as > much "room" to put users on a system as a single > core? (I've started trying to find out what advantage > quad core processors really have over very fast single > core processors. They can run more threads at the same time. "Cores" are essentially just processors, so a multi-core machine is like a multiprocessor machine - it can do more things at the same time. This is really useful for servers like CF, because those typically handle a bunch of requests at the same time. > I would *really* like to assign software to certain cores > and make sure, for instance, that Eclipse, always had > a full core to itself and other, less important software, > could share cores. > > Is that possible? Yes, I believe so. At least, on a multiprocessor Windows machine, you can set processor affinity for individual processes. Generally, though, you probably won't see a performance improvement; you'd do this to avoid specific problems with reentrancy. Just buy a faster workstation. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more informatio ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320615 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
So, do quad core processors just give you 4 times as much "room" to put users on a system as a single core? (I've started trying to find out what advantage quad core processors really have over very fast single core processors. I would *really* like to assign software to certain cores and make sure, for instance, that Eclipse, always had a full core to itself and other, less important software, could share cores. Is that possible? > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:24 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > > > Yeah, like anyone that offers hosting with a P4 server > > is less likely to pack it with users...sure... > > They won't be any more likely to pack it with users, either. In both > cases, they would be inclined to support as many users as the hardware > can handle. That's the logical business decision. That's exactly my > point. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320611 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
> Yeah, like anyone that offers hosting with a P4 server > is less likely to pack it with users...sure... They won't be any more likely to pack it with users, either. In both cases, they would be inclined to support as many users as the hardware can handle. That's the logical business decision. That's exactly my point. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320609 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Yeah, like anyone that offers hosting with a P4 server is less likely to pack it with users...sure... > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:45 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > > > True...but I would tend to think, as a "general" rule, that > > anyone offering quad-core is offering more than > > someone offering P4. > > I would tend to think that anyone offering quad-core will play this up > in their advertising for exactly this reason, regardless of the actual > fact of the matter. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320606 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
> True...but I would tend to think, as a "general" rule, that > anyone offering quad-core is offering more than > someone offering P4. I would tend to think that anyone offering quad-core will play this up in their advertising for exactly this reason, regardless of the actual fact of the matter. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320602 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Dave Watts wrote: >> Yes, a "slice" is not exactly "scientific", but assuming >> the slices are of equal size...P4 or Quad? > > My point is that you have absolutely no reason to assume that. Anybody > allocating virtualized server resources is going to tend toward > maximum allocation of those resources. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ That's the major selling point for Virtuozzo in fact. It's very good at handling server overcrowding because of how it allocates resources to those who "need it at the time". Using Virtuozzo, companies can put more VPS accounts on a single machine then they could with a VPS technology that uses fixed resource limits and doesn't allow resource swapping. There are lots of arguments both for and against this sort of resource swapping technology. Some folks feel that it's better because customers are less likely to feel it when hosting companies oversell their VPS platform machines, while others feel betrayed because they don't really get the resources they think they've purchased. I suppose it depends on what kind of user you are (heavy or light) and whether you trust Virtuozzo to decide what resources to actually allocate to you. Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ Open BlueDragon Steering Committee Adobe Solution Provider ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320586 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
True...but I would tend to think, as a "general" rule, that anyone offering quad-core is offering more than someone offering P4. Again, *general* rule...not absolute. For certainty, details would have to be know about configurations of both. > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:48 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > > > Yes, a "slice" is not exactly "scientific", but assuming > > the slices are of equal size...P4 or Quad? > > My point is that you have absolutely no reason to assume that. Anybody > allocating virtualized server resources is going to tend toward > maximum allocation of those resources. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320585 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Mercy...16 cores in a server. Question...ot..but... If I build a workstation (I'm tired of slow processing on my years-old P4) with a quad core processor, can I assign certain apps to run on only a certain core and restrict other programs from using that core? Or do I have to let Windows (will be Windows 7) use the cores as it will? I'm trying to understand the possibilities and benefits of multiple cores. > > You're better off on multicore systems. If the VMs are set up > properly, you aren't bound to a given core, so there's more chance > that there's a core free for your slice when it's your time. > > As an example, our main VM servers are quad CPU quad core systems > (i.e. 16 cores in each box). ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320583 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
> Yes, a "slice" is not exactly "scientific", but assuming > the slices are of equal size...P4 or Quad? My point is that you have absolutely no reason to assume that. Anybody allocating virtualized server resources is going to tend toward maximum allocation of those resources. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320582 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
You're better off on multicore systems. If the VMs are set up properly, you aren't bound to a given core, so there's more chance that there's a core free for your slice when it's your time. As an example, our main VM servers are quad CPU quad core systems (i.e. 16 cores in each box). mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2009/3/17 Rick Faircloth : > > Yes, a "slice" is not exactly "scientific", but assuming > the slices are of equal size...P4 or Quad? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320575 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Yes, a "slice" is not exactly "scientific", but assuming the slices are of equal size...P4 or Quad? > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:40 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > > > It makes sense to me that a VPS would only be getting > > a part of the processing potential of whatever processor > > it's running on...is the quad-core different? Could I be > > getting an entire "core" to myself of the "quad"? > > > > Or is it not necessarily true that a slice of a quad core > > beats a slice of a Pentium 4? > > A "slice" is not a consistent unit of measurement. Would you rather > have half of an 8" pizza, or an eighth of a 12" pizza? They're both > slices. > > If I were a hosting provider, I'd be able to put more customers on a > bigger machine than a smaller one. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320570 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
> It makes sense to me that a VPS would only be getting > a part of the processing potential of whatever processor > it's running on...is the quad-core different? Could I be > getting an entire "core" to myself of the "quad"? > > Or is it not necessarily true that a slice of a quad core > beats a slice of a Pentium 4? A "slice" is not a consistent unit of measurement. Would you rather have half of an 8" pizza, or an eighth of a 12" pizza? They're both slices. If I were a hosting provider, I'd be able to put more customers on a bigger machine than a smaller one. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320564 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
>>As a KAVPS user looking for other providers (note the looking for other providers part...), I would highly recommend you stay away from them. Dear Anon ymous, If you put ANYTHING of consequence on a VPS for $25-35/mo. you have simply gotten what you paid for. You get what you pay for. Especially with hosting. If you put mission critical apps on an economy VPS or Dedicated provider with out fail over you only have yourself to blame. Your options with engineering: Good Cheap Fast Your options with hosting: Support price features In either case: Pick 2 Sorry... but complaining about support for a super cheap hosting plan is like complaining about water being wet. If you want a VPS or Dedicated server that NEEDS to be five nines? Be prepared to pay for it. In the same breath... I have had my blog, other sites, and staging server on KAVPS with no noticeable down time or emails relating to such (as in none) for nearly a year. I was in the hosting biz for years so I take issue with Annon pot shots. Just saying G! On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Anon ymous -- Gerald Guido http://www.myinternetisbroken.com "To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." -- Thomas A. Edison ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320563 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
I ended up getting a dedicated server from CFDynamics, the $189 a month dedicated package. CF was included in the price as was a shared SQL server. While it isn't a particulary fast machine (not a quad core p4), since I have it all to myself, it runs like a champ. I have had it running for 2 years now without a single issue. It functions as the web server, mail server, and ftp server and since the CF and SQL are included in the price, it was the perfect match for me. While I dont have a VPS with HMS, we do have a couple dedicated VM machines there as well. The setup took longer than we were anticipating but support has been very good when needed. And for these servers, we moved from a CF7/SQL 2000 environment to a CF8/SQL 2005 environment and the performance improvement with that on the new HMS hardware was amazing. Dan ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320561 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Virtually every site I have running on it does image creation/ manipulation. Upload, rename, resize, create multiple sizes, etc. I'm doing all that with cffile and cfimage. Speed seems fine. I haven't done any actual speed tests to compare. Speed for me is not much of an issue, since virtually all of my image handling is done in my clients' site managers, where speed is not as critical as in the user interface. Rick > -Original Message- > From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:cont...@adrianlynch.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:16 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > > Doing any PDF or image creation/manipulation? If so how are you finding > it > for speed? > > Adrian > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] > > Sent: 16 March 2009 16:04 > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > > > > > I've kinda lost track of who I'm responding to...did you just > > reply to this to get the topic back in the loop, Mike? I didn't > > see any comments by you below. I assume that means you're just > > re-asking the question does anyone have any experience with > > KickAssVPS.com. > > > > If so, I've had about 9 months experience with them now and not a > > single problem at all...not billing issues, no server downtime (that > > wasn't announced...and a good thing is that when a planned upgrade > > didn't go smoothly, instead of continuing to keep the system down > while > > they tried to work out the issue, the downgraded and got the system > > back > > up immediately), no server problems at all. Nice support staff. > > Worked > > with me to get a special configuration of services I wanted included > > and > > some I didn't want taken out of the configuration...and adjust the > > price > > accordingly to make it a good deal. > > > > Check out their offerings and don't hesitate to request changes to > the > > "stock" configurations. Also, they were running a 2GB Mem special > for > > the > > price of one when I got my server, which helps. But I've never had > any > > slow server issues. And except for initial software setup and > > configuration, > > I've never even had to reboot the server! Smooth as silk. > > > > Can't recommend them highly enough! I have no vested interest, just > a > > very > > satisfied customer. I tried at least two other companies before > trying > > KickAssVPS.com and have never looked back. > > > > As far as I remember, with remoting into the server: > > > > - Win 2003 Server > > - Running MySQL 5 > > - ColdFusion 8 > > - Plesk was part of the pack, but I don't allow customer access to > the > > server, > > so I had it uninstalled > > - MSSQL is available, but I don't use it > > > > I can't think of anything else, but I'm completely satisfied. Feel > > free to > > ask > > about more specifics if you need them. > > > > Rick > > > > PS - and from Jochems remarks awhile back, you do just get a "slice" > of > > a > > quad-core > > Pentium, but that beats a "slice" of a Pentium 4! > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320551 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Can you explain, Dave? It makes sense to me that a VPS would only be getting a part of the processing potential of whatever processor it's running on...is the quad-core different? Could I be getting an entire "core" to myself of the "quad"? Or is it not necessarily true that a slice of a quad core beats a slice of a Pentium 4? What part are your referring to? Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:18 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > > > PS - and from Jochems remarks awhile back, you do > > just get a "slice" of a quad-core Pentium, but that beats > > a "slice" of a Pentium 4! > > That is not necessarily true. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320550 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Doing any PDF or image creation/manipulation? If so how are you finding it for speed? Adrian > -Original Message- > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] > Sent: 16 March 2009 16:04 > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > > I've kinda lost track of who I'm responding to...did you just > reply to this to get the topic back in the loop, Mike? I didn't > see any comments by you below. I assume that means you're just > re-asking the question does anyone have any experience with > KickAssVPS.com. > > If so, I've had about 9 months experience with them now and not a > single problem at all...not billing issues, no server downtime (that > wasn't announced...and a good thing is that when a planned upgrade > didn't go smoothly, instead of continuing to keep the system down while > they tried to work out the issue, the downgraded and got the system > back > up immediately), no server problems at all. Nice support staff. > Worked > with me to get a special configuration of services I wanted included > and > some I didn't want taken out of the configuration...and adjust the > price > accordingly to make it a good deal. > > Check out their offerings and don't hesitate to request changes to the > "stock" configurations. Also, they were running a 2GB Mem special for > the > price of one when I got my server, which helps. But I've never had any > slow server issues. And except for initial software setup and > configuration, > I've never even had to reboot the server! Smooth as silk. > > Can't recommend them highly enough! I have no vested interest, just a > very > satisfied customer. I tried at least two other companies before trying > KickAssVPS.com and have never looked back. > > As far as I remember, with remoting into the server: > > - Win 2003 Server > - Running MySQL 5 > - ColdFusion 8 > - Plesk was part of the pack, but I don't allow customer access to the > server, > so I had it uninstalled > - MSSQL is available, but I don't use it > > I can't think of anything else, but I'm completely satisfied. Feel > free to > ask > about more specifics if you need them. > > Rick > > PS - and from Jochems remarks awhile back, you do just get a "slice" of > a > quad-core > Pentium, but that beats a "slice" of a Pentium 4! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320541 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
> PS - and from Jochems remarks awhile back, you do > just get a "slice" of a quad-core Pentium, but that beats > a "slice" of a Pentium 4! That is not necessarily true. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320540 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
I've kinda lost track of who I'm responding to...did you just reply to this to get the topic back in the loop, Mike? I didn't see any comments by you below. I assume that means you're just re-asking the question does anyone have any experience with KickAssVPS.com. If so, I've had about 9 months experience with them now and not a single problem at all...not billing issues, no server downtime (that wasn't announced...and a good thing is that when a planned upgrade didn't go smoothly, instead of continuing to keep the system down while they tried to work out the issue, the downgraded and got the system back up immediately), no server problems at all. Nice support staff. Worked with me to get a special configuration of services I wanted included and some I didn't want taken out of the configuration...and adjust the price accordingly to make it a good deal. Check out their offerings and don't hesitate to request changes to the "stock" configurations. Also, they were running a 2GB Mem special for the price of one when I got my server, which helps. But I've never had any slow server issues. And except for initial software setup and configuration, I've never even had to reboot the server! Smooth as silk. Can't recommend them highly enough! I have no vested interest, just a very satisfied customer. I tried at least two other companies before trying KickAssVPS.com and have never looked back. As far as I remember, with remoting into the server: - Win 2003 Server - Running MySQL 5 - ColdFusion 8 - Plesk was part of the pack, but I don't allow customer access to the server, so I had it uninstalled - MSSQL is available, but I don't use it I can't think of anything else, but I'm completely satisfied. Feel free to ask about more specifics if you need them. Rick PS - and from Jochems remarks awhile back, you do just get a "slice" of a quad-core Pentium, but that beats a "slice" of a Pentium 4! > -Original Message- > From: Mike Aushana [mailto:mi...@madwebdesigns.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:43 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > > >Rick Faircloth wrote: > >> Hmmm... let me look at ServerPronto's site... > >> > >> - Intel Pentium 4, 3 GHz (as opposed to a Quad Core Pentium) > > > >You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad > core > >pentium. > > > > > >> - Only 6 email support tickets per month ($15 each for extra!) > >> - 6 reboots ($29 each for extra!) > > > >If either of those isn't enough, you shouldn't be running a server in > >the first place. > > > > > >> - Windows 2003 Server - $26 per month (incl with KAVPS) > > > >You never mentioned Windows was a requirement :) > > > > > >> - MSSQL 2005 Standard - $99 per month (incl with KAVPS) > > > >You have sufficient diskspace and RAM to install MSSQL 2005 Express on > >your own server. And I think the 1 GB space allotment isn't much with > KAVPS. > > > > > >> - Plesk for 100 Domains - $40 per month (incl with KAVPS) > > > >Why would you need this? You have the root password. > > > > > >> Am I looking at this correctly? > > > >I find both options a bit fuzzy on the details of backup and restore. > > > >All our SLA's for dedicated hosting include a provision that the > client > >can ask us once every X months to proof that our backup procedures are > >correct by performing a restore within the response time from the SLA. > >Doing that is a great way to make sure your procedures are correct. > With > >whatever plan you choose you should probably factor in the time and > cost > >of a trial run of restoring just a database and the entire server. > > > >Jochem > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320539 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
>Rick Faircloth wrote: >> Hmmm... let me look at ServerPronto's site... >> >> - Intel Pentium 4, 3 GHz (as opposed to a Quad Core Pentium) > >You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad core >pentium. > > >> - Only 6 email support tickets per month ($15 each for extra!) >> - 6 reboots ($29 each for extra!) > >If either of those isn't enough, you shouldn't be running a server in >the first place. > > >> - Windows 2003 Server - $26 per month (incl with KAVPS) > >You never mentioned Windows was a requirement :) > > >> - MSSQL 2005 Standard - $99 per month (incl with KAVPS) > >You have sufficient diskspace and RAM to install MSSQL 2005 Express on >your own server. And I think the 1 GB space allotment isn't much with KAVPS. > > >> - Plesk for 100 Domains - $40 per month (incl with KAVPS) > >Why would you need this? You have the root password. > > >> Am I looking at this correctly? > >I find both options a bit fuzzy on the details of backup and restore. > >All our SLA's for dedicated hosting include a provision that the client >can ask us once every X months to proof that our backup procedures are >correct by performing a restore within the response time from the SLA. >Doing that is a great way to make sure your procedures are correct. With >whatever plan you choose you should probably factor in the time and cost >of a trial run of restoring just a database and the entire server. > >Jochem ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320538 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
As a KAVPS user looking for other providers (note the looking for other providers part...), I would highly recommend you stay away from them. As far as I can tell there is exactly one person running this business, which would be fine if there weren't so many problems he needed to tend to. * I have had numerous billing problems with their ModernBill system overcharging me, and I have to create a new support ticket every month for them to fix it. * I couldn't access my VPS while I was at work one day (I host my e-mail on it which I check often), so I assumed that the connection was being blocked by some kind of filter. Not so... when I got home I couldn't access anything on the VPS either, so I created a support ticket and 12 hours later I was finally told that the host machine was down. * Look at some of the e-mail I've received since signing up 4 months ago: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Data Center Outage - 8/8/08 Date: August 8, 2008 7:04:19 PM CDT Dear Customer, On Friday at approximately 5:50pm CST, the KickAssVPS.com data center facility lost connectivity with it's primary bandwidth provider XO Communications, causing all services to become inaccessible. Services have been restored %100 as of 6:55pm CST. We are still working to determine the root cause of the connectivity issue. A follow up communication will be sent once we know for sure.We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Thank You, KickAssVPS.com Generated by KickAssVPS.com Billing System == From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SQL Emergency Maintenence Complete Date: July 28, 2008 9:38:32 PM CDT Dear Customer, The SQL database server maintenence is complete. Rather than replacing the faulty hardware in the old server, we took the opportunity to move all data to new, updated hardware. The new SQL configuration has faster disk drives, twice the processing power, and 6x the RAM. Please report any issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for your continued business! KickAssVPS.com Generated by KickAssVPS.com Billing System == From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Emergency Maintenence Notice - Shared DB Server Date: July 28, 2008 6:54:25 PM CDT To: REMOVED Dear Customer, The shared database server hosting external customer databases is currently experiencing RAID Disk Array issues resulting in data integrity problems. We will be replacing the faulty hardware starting at 8:00pm CST. Approximate downtime is 45 minutes. This issue only affects customers using the shared database services. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Thank You KickAssVPS.com Staff Generated by KickAssVPS.com Billing System == From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Notification of Emergency Network Maintenance Date: May 12, 2008 9:53:38 PM CDT To: REMOVED Dear Customer, Data center engineers have been working to troubleshoot an issue we saw on the network earlier today. They are going to proactively change one of the protocols within the data center network to prevent the issue we encountered from happening again in the future. This will require an emergency network maintenance to take effect tonight at 10pm. The engineers will bring down the backbone network for approximately 10 seconds while the update takes effect. This outage will only affect all network connectivity. Emergency Maintenance Window: Monday, May 12th, 2008, 10:00 PM central time Affected Systems: All networked equipment, and connectivity. Internet connection will be down for approximately 10 seconds We sincerely apologize for the short notice of this maintenance. As always, please contact out helpdesk with any questions you may have. Thank You, KickAssVPS.com Generated by KickAssVPS.com Billing System == From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Notification of Data Center Maintenance - Sunday April 13, 2008 - 12:01 am - 4:00 am Date: April 10, 2008 7:35:08 AM CDT Dear Valued Customer, On Sunday, April 13 starting at 12:01am CST, data center engineers will be conducting maintenance on our backbone network. This maintenance will begin on Sunday, April 13th at 12:01am and will last until 4:00am. During this maintenance window, engineers will be upgrading the distribution switch layer of the network at the Edina Data Center, in preparation for an additional redundant data center location in Minneapolis, MN. While the maintenance is occurring, there will be an interruption of Internet services while the switch network is upgraded. Engineers will be onsite during the maintenance to monitor the event. Maintenance Window: Sunday, April 13 â 12:01a.m. â 4:00 a.m. Affected Systems: ALL Server and VPS services will be interrupted. Thank you, KickAssVPS.com Generated by KickAssVPS.com Billing System ~| Adobe® ColdFus
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
No, not at this point. I haven't dug around to try to find out, but I can ask. Perhaps it's only 4 and I get an entire "core" to myself! :o) Rick > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:35 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > > > You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad > > > core pentium. > > > > True, but a slice off a quad core is better than a slice off a P4... > > If it's a dedicated server, you get the whole thing, not a slice. You have > no idea how many VMs are sharing that quad core, do you? > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
> > You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad > > core pentium. > > True, but a slice off a quad core is better than a slice off a P4... If it's a dedicated server, you get the whole thing, not a slice. You have no idea how many VMs are sharing that quad core, do you? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309236 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Mary Jo, >> again though, that's Railo, I know this is a bit of a thread hijack... Sorry about that, But I am super curious how things have been working out using Railo in a production Environment.. What has been your experience been like using Railo? Did you run it as a stand alone server or in conjunction with Apache or IIS or Tomcat? Have you used it with hosting automation software like Plesk, Helm etc? Thanx ~G~ > > This is one of the major reasons we went with KAVPS...they don't skimp on > the RAM. I personally just get a little leery about running CF, MySQL *and* > a mail server on 512MB of RAM. My customer's site which is a really > low-traffic site is typically using about 450MB (again though, that's Railo, > not sure how the usage with CF would compare). Granted, that amount is just > dedicated RAM and it can burst higher, but it's something to really > seriously look at, particularly if you have a high-traffic site. > > > --- Mary Jo > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309235 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
I was concerned about the 512MB RAM I've been using, too. I haven't put my more demanding CF 8 sites into full operation on the VPS I've been using, but I'll be a *lot* more comfortable with 2GB's! MSSQL on KAVPS: The feature list just mentions MSSQL 2005. Don't know whether it's Express or Standard. $10 for 1Gig per month. For my deal, I got the MSSQL and MySQL for free. The MSSQL really wasn't an issue for me, since I use MySQL 5 excusively. http://www.kickassvps.com/services/windows_vps/plans.php Rick > > Rick, in your spec list for the deal KA gave you, it doesn't mention SQL > Server. Is this included? If so, is it Standard or Express? > > Cheers. > > Adrian ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
> > - Intel Pentium 4, 3 GHz (as opposed to a Quad Core Pentium) > > You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad core > pentium. True, but a slice off a quad core is better than a slice off a P4... > > - Only 6 email support tickets per month ($15 each for extra!) > > - 6 reboots ($29 each for extra!) > > If either of those isn't enough, you shouldn't be running a server in > the first place. I'm assuming that the problems I would be addressing are on their end, not mine. If their hardware or installed software is misbehaving, then that shouldn't be on my dime, unless I caused the problem. > > - Windows 2003 Server - $26 per month (incl with KAVPS) > > You never mentioned Windows was a requirement :) Yes, I'm a "Windows Only" guy... > > - MSSQL 2005 Standard - $99 per month (incl with KAVPS) > > You have sufficient diskspace and RAM to install MSSQL 2005 Express on > your own server. And I think the 1 GB space allotment isn't much with KAVPS. I don't use MSSQL anyway...I use MySQL 5. So the $99 wouldn't apply in my situation, but for other considering the difference who use MSSQL, I felt it was worth noting. > > - Plesk for 100 Domains - $40 per month (incl with KAVPS) > > Why would you need this? You have the root password. Never needed it, but just trying to compare what I get with both for the price. Leave out the cost in the comparison and that's would seem to be an unfair strike again KAVPS, as they include it for free. > I find both options a bit fuzzy on the details of backup and restore. I didn't address backup and restore in the comparison, but here are the details: KAVPS: Backup and Restore Self-administered incremental and scheduled backup capability comes as a part of the feature set. Backups enable quick restoration of each VE without support intervention. VE Backup/Restore Backup and restore the VE from the backup including all system and user files ServerPronto: System Restore: $39 I backup my own data and files daily, anyway. I don't backup the VPS, but with either vendor, I'm sure they'd be able to get it back up quickly. Then, if necessary, I'd be able to put the data and files back on immediately. VPS's, as opposed to dedicated servers, supply everything I need currently, with a better price point, by far. In the future, dedicated servers may be the way to go for my needs. Thanks for the points you made, Jochem, and for furthering the discussion and understanding. Rick > -Original Message- > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:34 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > Rick Faircloth wrote: > > Hmmm... let me look at ServerPronto's site... > > > > - Intel Pentium 4, 3 GHz (as opposed to a Quad Core Pentium) > > You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad core > pentium. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Yes! 512MB! With 512GB of RAM, who would need hard drive space! :o) Rick > -Original Message- > From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:38 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > >It's quite a jump, but I've got to have a reliable server and service. > >HostMySite.com and KickAssVPS.com are in the running right now. > > > >HostMySite.com - $129 / month for 10GB drive space and 512GB RAM > >KickAssVPS.com - $155 / month for 20GB drive space and 2GB RAM > > > I assume you mean HMS is 512MB, not GB. ;-) > > This is one of the major reasons we went with KAVPS...they don't skimp on the > RAM. I personally just get > a little leery about running CF, MySQL *and* a mail server on 512MB of RAM. > My customer's site which is > a really low-traffic site is typically using about 450MB (again though, > that's Railo, not sure how the > usage with CF would compare). Granted, that amount is just dedicated RAM and > it can burst higher, but > it's something to really seriously look at, particularly if you have a > high-traffic site. > > > --- Mary Jo > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309218 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
>> - Plesk for 100 Domains - $40 per month (incl with KAVPS) >> Why would you need this? You have the root password. So the phone doesn't ring every time someone needs a new email account or forgets their password . That gets old real fast. ~G~ -- "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" -- Mario Andretti ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Thanks for the info, Mary Jo! Rick > -Original Message- > From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:27 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > >I'm considering moving to a new VPS provider and found KickAssVPS.com on > >Google. > >I haven't heard of them before or seen them mentioned on the list, so I > >thought > >I'd ask about experience. Offerings and price looks good, including CF 8. > > Rick, I've been using KickAss for a few months now with a client of mine and > we've been very happy with > them. They know ColdFusion (always a plus, when you've had to deal with > places like GoDaddy, ha!) and > I've always gotten fast support when needed. I'm running Railo on our server > and have really had only > one instance where we had some downtime, which was pretty insignificant. I > did a fair amount of research > before using them and found all stellar reviews, but they appear to be fairly > new, so it's a fairly > small sample size. I've since only seen one bad less-than-happy review of > them, but with our experience > so far, I don't hesitate to recommend them. > > > --- Mary Jo > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Mary Jo said: "This is one of the major reasons we went with KAVPS...they don't skimp on the RAM. I personally just get a little leery about running CF, MySQL *and* a mail server on 512MB of RAM. My customer's site which is a really low-traffic site is typically using about 450MB (again though, that's Railo, not sure how the usage with CF would compare). Granted, that amount is just dedicated RAM and it can burst higher, but it's something to really seriously look at, particularly if you have a high-traffic site. " I'm on the 512MB plan with HMS and you're right, it isn't enough when you start to do things like image resizing and PDF generation. The memory is always maxing out. I also get a *lot* of errors stating "The custom tag top.cfm can't be found" which I put down to this lack of memory (It can't be my code!). I was hoping a thread like this would come up as I'm looking to move to another VPS with 1GB minimum. But, as Will said, the live support is awesome. I've only once not been able to talk to someone. But, it hasn't always been great. I've had problems with the firewall and felt like I've had to go over old ground with the person I'd currently be talking to. I've also had them change my password without telling me. Still amazed they did that! Rick, in your spec list for the deal KA gave you, it doesn't mention SQL Server. Is this included? If so, is it Standard or Express? Cheers. Adrian ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Rick Faircloth wrote: > Hmmm... let me look at ServerPronto's site... > > - Intel Pentium 4, 3 GHz (as opposed to a Quad Core Pentium) You don't get a quad core pentium, you get a time-slice off a quad core pentium. > - Only 6 email support tickets per month ($15 each for extra!) > - 6 reboots ($29 each for extra!) If either of those isn't enough, you shouldn't be running a server in the first place. > - Windows 2003 Server - $26 per month (incl with KAVPS) You never mentioned Windows was a requirement :) > - MSSQL 2005 Standard - $99 per month (incl with KAVPS) You have sufficient diskspace and RAM to install MSSQL 2005 Express on your own server. And I think the 1 GB space allotment isn't much with KAVPS. > - Plesk for 100 Domains - $40 per month (incl with KAVPS) Why would you need this? You have the root password. > Am I looking at this correctly? I find both options a bit fuzzy on the details of backup and restore. All our SLA's for dedicated hosting include a provision that the client can ask us once every X months to proof that our backup procedures are correct by performing a restore within the response time from the SLA. Doing that is a great way to make sure your procedures are correct. With whatever plan you choose you should probably factor in the time and cost of a trial run of restoring just a database and the entire server. Jochem ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
>It's quite a jump, but I've got to have a reliable server and service. >HostMySite.com and KickAssVPS.com are in the running right now. > >HostMySite.com - $129 / month for 10GB drive space and 512GB RAM >KickAssVPS.com - $155 / month for 20GB drive space and 2GB RAM I assume you mean HMS is 512MB, not GB. ;-) This is one of the major reasons we went with KAVPS...they don't skimp on the RAM. I personally just get a little leery about running CF, MySQL *and* a mail server on 512MB of RAM. My customer's site which is a really low-traffic site is typically using about 450MB (again though, that's Railo, not sure how the usage with CF would compare). Granted, that amount is just dedicated RAM and it can burst higher, but it's something to really seriously look at, particularly if you have a high-traffic site. --- Mary Jo ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
>I'm considering moving to a new VPS provider and found KickAssVPS.com on >Google. >I haven't heard of them before or seen them mentioned on the list, so I thought >I'd ask about experience. Offerings and price looks good, including CF 8. Rick, I've been using KickAss for a few months now with a client of mine and we've been very happy with them. They know ColdFusion (always a plus, when you've had to deal with places like GoDaddy, ha!) and I've always gotten fast support when needed. I'm running Railo on our server and have really had only one instance where we had some downtime, which was pretty insignificant. I did a fair amount of research before using them and found all stellar reviews, but they appear to be fairly new, so it's a fairly small sample size. I've since only seen one bad less-than-happy review of them, but with our experience so far, I don't hesitate to recommend them. --- Mary Jo ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm... let me look at ServerPronto's site... > > - Intel Pentium 4, 3 GHz (as opposed to a Quad Core Pentium) > - 1 GB RAM (Half as much) > - 160 GB HDD (as opposed to 30 GB data space) > - 800 GB Traffic Bandwidth (only 200 GB with KAVPS, but still enough) > - Only 6 email support tickets per month ($15 each for extra!) > - 6 reboots ($29 each for extra!) > - IP's - 4 (1 with KAVPS, but enough) > - Setup ($99) ($0 with KAVPS) > - Windows 2003 Server - $26 per month (incl with KAVPS) > - MSSQL 2005 Standard - $99 per month (incl with KAVPS) > - Plesk for 100 Domains - $40 per month (incl with KAVPS) > > So, basically, it looks like Server Pronto would cost me > $266 per month with only 6 email support tickets included, > + $1300 for CF 8 (let's say about $55 per month before upgrading in 2 > years), > so... > > - $321 per month for a dedicated server with Server Pronto > - $100 per month for VPS with KAVPS with unlimited support (phone and > email) > > Even with the extras, as long as a VPS suffices (which it should), it seems > the better route would be KAVPS, for me. > > Am I looking at this correctly? > Probably. I run Debian, and no MSSQL server or control panel. So that evens it up with more pipeline, etc. We needed more pipeline, (peaking at 1.3 TB a month), so just moved from running our own box at colo4dallas to a managed box at serverbeach. They have both been good. We used serverpronto for about 2 years, (back in the day), and they were pretty solid as well. (For anyone who is interested). Cool. Thanks for the serious reply, (and no flames :) ). speeves ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Hmmm... let me look at ServerPronto's site... - Intel Pentium 4, 3 GHz (as opposed to a Quad Core Pentium) - 1 GB RAM (Half as much) - 160 GB HDD (as opposed to 30 GB data space) - 800 GB Traffic Bandwidth (only 200 GB with KAVPS, but still enough) - Only 6 email support tickets per month ($15 each for extra!) - 6 reboots ($29 each for extra!) - IP's - 4 (1 with KAVPS, but enough) - Setup ($99) ($0 with KAVPS) - Windows 2003 Server - $26 per month (incl with KAVPS) - MSSQL 2005 Standard - $99 per month (incl with KAVPS) - Plesk for 100 Domains - $40 per month (incl with KAVPS) So, basically, it looks like Server Pronto would cost me $266 per month with only 6 email support tickets included, + $1300 for CF 8 (let's say about $55 per month before upgrading in 2 years), so... - $321 per month for a dedicated server with Server Pronto - $100 per month for VPS with KAVPS with unlimited support (phone and email) Even with the extras, as long as a VPS suffices (which it should), it seems the better route would be KAVPS, for me. Am I looking at this correctly? Rick > -Original Message- > From: Shannon Peevey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:19 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Just to let you know... > > > > KickAssVPS.com cut me a deal for $100 per month > > on a VPS with these specs: (Normally $130) > > > > At these prices, wouldn't purchasing a Coldfusion license from Adobe, and > renting a dedicated server from someplace like > http://www.serverpronto.com/pay for itself? > > (serious question), > speeves > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309177 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to let you know... > > KickAssVPS.com cut me a deal for $100 per month > on a VPS with these specs: (Normally $130) > At these prices, wouldn't purchasing a Coldfusion license from Adobe, and renting a dedicated server from someplace like http://www.serverpronto.com/pay for itself? (serious question), speeves ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309176 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Just to let you know... KickAssVPS.com cut me a deal for $100 per month on a VPS with these specs: (Normally $130) Setup Fee ($0) 30 GB Disk Space 1280 RAM 200 GB Data Transfer 1 IP Windows 2003 Virtuozzo for Windows Quad_CPU Redundant Servers CF 8 MySQL 5 (1 GB Datasources) SmarterMail Pro (5 domains, 250 Users) SmarterStats Pro (50 Sites) SmarterTrack Pro (2 Agents) Remote Desktop Full Admin Access Plesk Control Panel for 100 Domains Daily Backups RAID Servers I've got a promise of good support from them with a direct phone number to the guy I was dealing with, so we'll see... Rick > -Original Message- > From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:43 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > >It's quite a jump, but I've got to have a reliable server and service. > >HostMySite.com and KickAssVPS.com are in the running right now. > > > >HostMySite.com - $129 / month for 10GB drive space and 512GB RAM > >KickAssVPS.com - $155 / month for 20GB drive space and 2GB RAM > > Rick, just don't make a major mistake by comparing price only. HMS's > service/support is ridiculous. I > can tell you story after story about how they've blown me away with their > response/help. Their knowledge > of CF is awesome. They could easily field questions on this list all day long > - *almost* like Watts!! :) > > And now, they have a dedicated VPS support team! It's even better. > > Will > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309175 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
>It's quite a jump, but I've got to have a reliable server and service. >HostMySite.com and KickAssVPS.com are in the running right now. > >HostMySite.com - $129 / month for 10GB drive space and 512GB RAM >KickAssVPS.com - $155 / month for 20GB drive space and 2GB RAM Rick, just don't make a major mistake by comparing price only. HMS's service/support is ridiculous. I can tell you story after story about how they've blown me away with their response/help. Their knowledge of CF is awesome. They could easily field questions on this list all day long - *almost* like Watts!! :) And now, they have a dedicated VPS support team! It's even better. Will ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309169 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
Thanks for the tip, Will. I'm looking them over. I think the $129 would be enough, at least for now. The only difference I see is I get 10GB instead of 22GB for files and 512MB memory instead of 1GB. Be nice to have the extra drive space and memory, but for $60 extra dollars...I've only been paying $70 a month up to this point with 20GB of drive space and 512MB for RAM. It's quite a jump, but I've got to have a reliable server and service. HostMySite.com and KickAssVPS.com are in the running right now. HostMySite.com - $129 / month for 10GB drive space and 512GB RAM KickAssVPS.com - $155 / month for 20GB drive space and 2GB RAM Rick > -Original Message- > From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:45 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? > > >I need to make a move from my current VPS provider. I've had problems > >accessing the server via Remote Desktop for a month and while I've been > >promised support and even a new server, I can't even get an answer on status > >for a priority email. I can't even set up a datasource for a client. > > Rick, if you can afford $189/month, HostMySite's CF VPS (1GB RAM) definitely > kicks ass. > > And the support is unbelievable. These guys know CF. I've had a blast workin' > with HMS. Thanks to the > disruptor for talkin' me into it (GAG GAG). > > http://www.hostmysite.com/vps/windows/coldfusion/ > > hth, > Will ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309165 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
You can always try SoftLayer.com - Original Message From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:44:56 PM Subject: Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com? >I need to make a move from my current VPS provider. I've had problems >accessing the server via Remote Desktop for a month and while I've been >promised support and even a new server, I can't even get an answer on status >for a priority email. I can't even set up a datasource for a client. Rick, if you can afford $189/month, HostMySite's CF VPS (1GB RAM) definitely kicks ass. And the support is unbelievable. These guys know CF. I've had a blast workin' with HMS. Thanks to the disruptor for talkin' me into it (GAG GAG). http://www.hostmysite.com/vps/windows/coldfusion/ hth, Will ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309164 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Anybody have exerience with KickAssVPS.com?
>I need to make a move from my current VPS provider. I've had problems >accessing the server via Remote Desktop for a month and while I've been >promised support and even a new server, I can't even get an answer on status >for a priority email. I can't even set up a datasource for a client. Rick, if you can afford $189/month, HostMySite's CF VPS (1GB RAM) definitely kicks ass. And the support is unbelievable. These guys know CF. I've had a blast workin' with HMS. Thanks to the disruptor for talkin' me into it (GAG GAG). http://www.hostmysite.com/vps/windows/coldfusion/ hth, Will ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309162 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
