RE: ACL VS Null Route [7:74267]

2003-08-26 Thread Doan Nguyen
P B has a good explanation.  However black hole routing is usually done on
the fly when you have a DoS attack and can't really change ACL on X routers
in your network.  Routing an unwanted network into Null is the quick and
temporary way.  However in the long run it is in good practice to use ACL to
block unwanted networks.


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RE: ACL VS Null Route [7:74267]

2003-08-23 Thread p b
In a straight comparison, doing the NULL route is
handled more efficiently on the router as its just standard
L3 forwarding.  If you do an ACL instead, the router has to
do additional processing on the packet.

If you're running something like a GSR or 7609 and the right
LC where ACLs are handled in ASICs, then is probably doesn't
matter which approach you use.

I don't see configuration complexity being sufficiently
more complicated in either case so thats a push.

Depending on your network requirements and topology, ACLs
might be better as you can check src and dst.  The null routes
will only catch the traffic based on dst.

With Null routing, you can confirm the routing is operating
via a show ip route and few simple pings.  Doing the same sort
of verification when using ACLs to block might be more difficult
(depending on where you put the ACLs).


Irwan Hadi wrote:
 
 I'm curious which one is better to use and why in case I want
 to filter
 some IP addresses that I don't want them to talk with my
 network,
 by using ACL or by null routing them? Say that I have around 50
 to 100
 IP addresses.
 Remember that I just want to filter the IP addresses, so I
 don't care
 about extended access-list.
 
 Thanks
 
 




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RE: ACL VS Null Route [7:74267]

2003-08-22 Thread Dom
Are they in the same address block or are they in separate blocks?

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Subject: ACL VS Null Route [7:74267]


I'm curious which one is better to use and why in case I want to filter
some IP addresses that I don't want them to talk with my network, by
using ACL or by null routing them? Say that I have around 50 to 100 IP
addresses. Remember that I just want to filter the IP addresses, so I
don't care about extended access-list.

Thanks
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RE: ACL VS Null Route [7:74267]

2003-08-22 Thread Kam Chris
I believe that it is best practice to block them via an ACL inbound before
they enter the router.  If you route them to a Null interface the router has
to further process them.


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Re: ACL VS Null Route [7:74267]

2003-08-22 Thread Irwan Hadi
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 11:48:59PM +, Dom wrote:

 Are they in the same address block or are they in separate blocks?

separate blocks.




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