Re: MPLS and VPN Architectures book [7:34792]
The latest JunOS IJNR (Intro to Juniper Networks Routers) material give a better overview of basic MPLS than any of the Ciscopress books. For a really really really good understanding of TE, check out the JunOS Advanced MPLS course stuff. For a strong in-depth discussion of all manners of MPLS VPN's, check out the JunOS Advanced VPN's materials. However, if you want to study this stuff, I would advise you to wait until Juniper updates its training materials. JunOS 5.2 just came out, with a bevy of kickass MPLS features, and you should wait until the courses have been updated to include these features. For example, Martini-draft L2VPN's have just been implemented in JunOS. What is ironic is that IOS can also do Martini VPN's (on the 6500/7600) but there is nary a mention of it anywhere on the Cisco website besides stupid marketing papers. ""Sean Knox"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Heh, that's pretty ironic the book doesn't go into depth about traffic > engineering... um hello? Oh well. Which books out of the Juniper course > material go over MPLS? > > - Sean > > -Original Message- > From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: MPLS and VPN Architectures book [7:34792] > > > The book is all-right, it's not great. It's OK as an intro book to the > subject. Unfortunately many of the more complex topics in later chapters > are written in such garbled way as to be almost unintelligible, particularly > some of the 'carrier of carrier' and 'Internet access' stuff, and those are > precisely the topics that need to be as clear as possible because of their > complexity. I swear, some of the grammar is so convuleted that the only > way to really understand everything in those chapters is to already know it > in the first place, but then if you already know it, why are you reading the > book at all? > > The book is also missing any mention of probably the most important reason > to use MPLS at all: traffic-engineering. Unfortunately there is no really > good Cisco book about this subject (it is covered briefly in IP Quality of > Service, but not in any serious depth). The best stuff I've ever found on > TE is, ahem, Juniper course material. > > But like I said, a decent intro book on the subject. > > > > ""Caplan M"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I'm reading it and so far I'm pleased with it. I haven't got to the VPN > > stuff yet though, but its given me a good grounging in tag switching and > MPLS. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34964&t=34792 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS and VPN Architectures book [7:34792]
Advanced MPLS Design book surprises me with the intro on MPLS. Most of the ideas are exactly worded with slight modification from Davie's book. The author seems to have no personnel opinion at all . TE's good intro is in Davie's book and Eric Gray also throw some light on it. Also consider reading white papers at Juniper and Riverstone websites. For MPLS QoS, consider Zhang's book on QoS. Thanks, Shahid --- Kent Yu wrote: > Advanced MPLS Design and Implementation covers MPLS > QoS pretty well. > > > ""nrf"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > The book is all-right, it's not great. It's OK as > an intro book to the > > subject. Unfortunately many of the more complex > topics in later chapters > > are written in such garbled way as to be almost > unintelligible, > particularly > > some of the 'carrier of carrier' and 'Internet > access' stuff, and those > are > > precisely the topics that need to be as clear as > possible because of their > > complexity. I swear, some of the grammar is so > convuleted that the only > > way to really understand everything in those > chapters is to already know > it > > in the first place, but then if you already know > it, why are you reading > the > > book at all? > > > > The book is also missing any mention of probably > the most important reason > > to use MPLS at all: traffic-engineering. > Unfortunately there is no really > > good Cisco book about this subject (it is covered > briefly in IP Quality of > > Service, but not in any serious depth). The best > stuff I've ever found on > > TE is, ahem, Juniper course material. > > > > But like I said, a decent intro book on the > subject. > > > > > > > > ""Caplan M"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > I'm reading it and so far I'm pleased with it. I > haven't got to the VPN > > > stuff yet though, but its given me a good > grounging in tag switching and > > MPLS. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Shahid Muhammad Shafi "Every man dies; not every man really lives" Please help feed hungry people worldwide http://www.hungersite.com/ A small thing each of us can do to help others less fortunate than ourselves __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34948&t=34792 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS and VPN Architectures book [7:34792]
Advanced MPLS Design and Implementation covers MPLS QoS pretty well. ""nrf"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The book is all-right, it's not great. It's OK as an intro book to the > subject. Unfortunately many of the more complex topics in later chapters > are written in such garbled way as to be almost unintelligible, particularly > some of the 'carrier of carrier' and 'Internet access' stuff, and those are > precisely the topics that need to be as clear as possible because of their > complexity. I swear, some of the grammar is so convuleted that the only > way to really understand everything in those chapters is to already know it > in the first place, but then if you already know it, why are you reading the > book at all? > > The book is also missing any mention of probably the most important reason > to use MPLS at all: traffic-engineering. Unfortunately there is no really > good Cisco book about this subject (it is covered briefly in IP Quality of > Service, but not in any serious depth). The best stuff I've ever found on > TE is, ahem, Juniper course material. > > But like I said, a decent intro book on the subject. > > > > ""Caplan M"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I'm reading it and so far I'm pleased with it. I haven't got to the VPN > > stuff yet though, but its given me a good grounging in tag switching and > MPLS. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34945&t=34792 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MPLS and VPN Architectures book [7:34792]
Heh, that's pretty ironic the book doesn't go into depth about traffic engineering... um hello? Oh well. Which books out of the Juniper course material go over MPLS? - Sean -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MPLS and VPN Architectures book [7:34792] The book is all-right, it's not great. It's OK as an intro book to the subject. Unfortunately many of the more complex topics in later chapters are written in such garbled way as to be almost unintelligible, particularly some of the 'carrier of carrier' and 'Internet access' stuff, and those are precisely the topics that need to be as clear as possible because of their complexity. I swear, some of the grammar is so convuleted that the only way to really understand everything in those chapters is to already know it in the first place, but then if you already know it, why are you reading the book at all? The book is also missing any mention of probably the most important reason to use MPLS at all: traffic-engineering. Unfortunately there is no really good Cisco book about this subject (it is covered briefly in IP Quality of Service, but not in any serious depth). The best stuff I've ever found on TE is, ahem, Juniper course material. But like I said, a decent intro book on the subject. ""Caplan M"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm reading it and so far I'm pleased with it. I haven't got to the VPN > stuff yet though, but its given me a good grounging in tag switching and MPLS. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34944&t=34792 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS and VPN Architectures book [7:34792]
The book is all-right, it's not great. It's OK as an intro book to the subject. Unfortunately many of the more complex topics in later chapters are written in such garbled way as to be almost unintelligible, particularly some of the 'carrier of carrier' and 'Internet access' stuff, and those are precisely the topics that need to be as clear as possible because of their complexity. I swear, some of the grammar is so convuleted that the only way to really understand everything in those chapters is to already know it in the first place, but then if you already know it, why are you reading the book at all? The book is also missing any mention of probably the most important reason to use MPLS at all: traffic-engineering. Unfortunately there is no really good Cisco book about this subject (it is covered briefly in IP Quality of Service, but not in any serious depth). The best stuff I've ever found on TE is, ahem, Juniper course material. But like I said, a decent intro book on the subject. ""Caplan M"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm reading it and so far I'm pleased with it. I haven't got to the VPN > stuff yet though, but its given me a good grounging in tag switching and MPLS. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34940&t=34792 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MPLS and VPN Architectures book [7:34792]
I'm reading it and so far I'm pleased with it. I haven't got to the VPN stuff yet though, but its given me a good grounging in tag switching and MPLS. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34837&t=34792 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
