Re: Recent CID takers pls comment
At 05:11 PM 2/7/01, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > >they were boring because the questions asked had > >little or "nitwit" relevance to what the companies > >wanted to do. > >in my opinion a ccda exam shd have had better and > >interesting scenarios. > >regards > >mongol > >That's a valid observation. > > >There's a whole art to responding to bad specifications with systems >that inflict minimal pain. Mind you, I don't think the design cert >exams are this subtle, but a good CID class will get into how you >manage customer expectations and respond to poor specifications. Hmm. That could explain the question from a couple days ago where we were supposed to "summarize the following networks," only the right answer made us not summarize one of the following, because presumably the addressing had been designed to not support summarization. Another thread that should get the Kevorkian treatment, probably! &;-) Priscilla > > > >--- "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >Hi > >> >I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 > >> questions in 120 mins !! > >> >I was told a month back that it was 100 questions. > >> >Pls clarify. > >> >(Hope those boring scenarios are not there.) > >> >regards > >> > >> > >> Why are scenarios boring? Aren't those the > >> principal things you will > >> deal with as a real-world designer? > >> > >> _ > >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent CID takers pls comment
>they were boring because the questions asked had >little or "nitwit" relevance to what the companies >wanted to do. >in my opinion a ccda exam shd have had better and >interesting scenarios. >regards >mongol That's a valid observation. Let me offer a bit of perspective on nitwit-ism in the real world. When I taught the design/technical track of Cisco University (a program for resellers), all three tracks (design, sales, and operations) met as a group, then split up. We usually left the design track in the original room. I'd often start out by asking, "Anyone here from sales?" And someone would raise their hand. I'd respond. "Thank you. I'll speak slowly." Especially in a reseller context, you will often have to respond to scenarios in which you can only moan to the sales rep, "you sold them WHAAAT? And you want WHO to make it work?" There's a whole art to responding to bad specifications with systems that inflict minimal pain. Mind you, I don't think the design cert exams are this subtle, but a good CID class will get into how you manage customer expectations and respond to poor specifications. > >--- "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Hi >> >I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 >> questions in 120 mins !! >> >I was told a month back that it was 100 questions. >> >Pls clarify. >> >(Hope those boring scenarios are not there.) >> >regards >> >> >> Why are scenarios boring? Aren't those the >> principal things you will >> deal with as a real-world designer? >> >> _ >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent CID takers pls comment
they were boring because the questions asked had little or "nitwit" relevance to what the companies wanted to do. in my opinion a ccda exam shd have had better and interesting scenarios. regards mongol --- "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hi > >I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 > questions in 120 mins !! > >I was told a month back that it was 100 questions. > >Pls clarify. > >(Hope those boring scenarios are not there.) > >regards > > > Why are scenarios boring? Aren't those the > principal things you will > deal with as a real-world designer? > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent CID takers pls comment
The DCN (CCDA) exam has scenarios akin to Microsoft's exams. The CID (CCDP) exam does not and will likely never have such a presentation. This is an interesting challenge as noted below as the test cannot fully address design. --- Craig Columbus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While scenarios can be interesting, don't expect any > on CID 3.0. It's not > a very well written test, but it's certainly > passable if you know the > material on the review guide. > > Craig > > At 08:24 AM 2/7/2001 -0800, you wrote: > >I'm definitely with Howard on this one. I plan on > taking the CID within a > >month and I would expect scenarios to be on the > test. How else would you > >really test design skills? > > > >I'm more worried that the test is just a bad test > overall. I don't think > >I've read a single good thing about any version of > it. Perhaps I'll wait > >until the newest release is out and I've heard some > comment on that before > >I take it. > > > >If Cisco would bother to actually read the comments > that people make on > >beta tests, perhaps they could come up with a solid > design exam. > > > > > > > > >Hi > > > >I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 > questions in 120 mins !! > > > >I was told a month back that it was 100 > questions. > > > >Pls clarify. > > > >(Hope those boring scenarios are not there.) > > > >regards > > > > > > > > > Why are scenarios boring? Aren't those the > principal things you will > > > deal with as a real-world designer? > > > > > > _ > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista > Shopping! > >http://www.shopping.altavista.com > > > >_ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent CID takers pls comment
While scenarios can be interesting, don't expect any on CID 3.0. It's not a very well written test, but it's certainly passable if you know the material on the review guide. Craig At 08:24 AM 2/7/2001 -0800, you wrote: >I'm definitely with Howard on this one. I plan on taking the CID within a >month and I would expect scenarios to be on the test. How else would you >really test design skills? > >I'm more worried that the test is just a bad test overall. I don't think >I've read a single good thing about any version of it. Perhaps I'll wait >until the newest release is out and I've heard some comment on that before >I take it. > >If Cisco would bother to actually read the comments that people make on >beta tests, perhaps they could come up with a solid design exam. > > > > > >Hi > > >I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 questions in 120 mins !! > > >I was told a month back that it was 100 questions. > > >Pls clarify. > > >(Hope those boring scenarios are not there.) > > >regards > > > > > > Why are scenarios boring? Aren't those the principal things you will > > deal with as a real-world designer? > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! >http://www.shopping.altavista.com > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent CID takers pls comment
I'm definitely with Howard on this one. I plan on taking the CID within a month and I would expect scenarios to be on the test. How else would you really test design skills? I'm more worried that the test is just a bad test overall. I don't think I've read a single good thing about any version of it. Perhaps I'll wait until the newest release is out and I've heard some comment on that before I take it. If Cisco would bother to actually read the comments that people make on beta tests, perhaps they could come up with a solid design exam. > > >Hi > >I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 questions in 120 mins !! > >I was told a month back that it was 100 questions. > >Pls clarify. > >(Hope those boring scenarios are not there.) > >regards > > > Why are scenarios boring? Aren't those the principal things you will > deal with as a real-world designer? > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent CID takers pls comment
>Hi >I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 questions in 120 mins !! >I was told a month back that it was 100 questions. >Pls clarify. >(Hope those boring scenarios are not there.) >regards Why are scenarios boring? Aren't those the principal things you will deal with as a real-world designer? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recent CID takers pls comment
Hi I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 questions in 120 mins !! I was told a month back that it was 100 questions. Pls clarify. (Hope those boring scenarios are not there.) regards _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
