Tom,
Thanks for the input about taking the lab.
Where did you find 12.1 IOS Docs?.
I looked at Cisco Press and other book stores on line, they only have 12.0.
Is 12.1 being used in the lab?.
Thanks
Reza
""Thomas Larus"" wrote in message
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> (I recently failed my first attempt, so weigh my advice accordingly.)
>
>
> The short form is:
>
> 1)Read obsessively and quickly start doing simple labs
> 2) Labs will raise questions, sending you back to the books and IOS docs
> 3) Do complex lab scenarios created by other people until you are blue in
> the face
>
> 4) Always strive to nail down things you are unsure of, and nail down
every
> setting that you are permitted to nail down in you configs (advice from
> Caslow in NMC-1 class, which class is highly recommended and worth every
> penny). An important motto of the quest for CCIE is "Nail everything
down."
>
> As for time periods, that is impossible for me to set out. Everyone is
> different. We all start at different places when we set out for the CCIE.
> Some are top network engineers when they start and have less to learn than
> someone like me. I have found that this takes much more time than I ever
> planned for initially.
>
> You should read always and everywhere. IOS docs, TAC articles, Cisco
Press
> Books, McGraw Hill technical expert books, Caslow, Doyle, etc. You start
> off by doing labs on individual technologies, such as those provided by
> fatkid, ipexpert, and the like, or labbing up the scenarios in Doyle, etc.
> When you do these labs, you will have questions, which you send you back
to
> the books with a keen interest. I think that reading in order to find an
> answer or to learn about something that you are dying to learn about leads
> to greater absorption than reading straight through a book with the goal
of
> reading so many pages a day. I know we need to do both kinds of reading,
> but I am making the point that doing labs makes your absorption and
> compehension of what you read so much deeper.
>
> You can try to do you own labs, but you may find that you move much faster
> through teh material doing labs prepared by someone else. Plus, doing
labs
> written by others gets you practice interpreting instructions.
>
> You soon move on to complex lab scenarios. Do lots and lots of these.
The
> commercial labs will teach you a lot, and are worth spending money on,
even
> though they may not be perfect. These commercial labs will teach you that
> many knowledgeable CCIEs make the same kinds of mistakes that you are
scared
> to death of making on the CCIE lab. It is frustrating, yet somehow
> comforting, to find the glaring errors and omissions in expensive labs
> written by CCIEs. The authors will tell you to configure something, and
> then completely forget to configure it themselves. (and then continue to
> forget to configure it through several revisions of their labs and lab
> solutions) You learn from this that it is possible to pass the CCIE even
> though you are prone to making almost unforgivably glaring errors when you
> have years to do it right. I am a bit absent-minded myself, so that is
> comforting. (I simply need an 8-hour "lucid interval" of perfect focus on
> getting every detail right and avoiding landmines, while moving through
the
> tasks at high speed.)
>
> In short, use lab scenarios early on, and do reading and lab scenarios
> concurrently, and read everything. I bought the 12.1 IOS Docs in printed
> format, and have really enjoyed reading them. They are loaded with good
> stuff. Do NOT buy the old books of IOS docs (I bought a bunch of these,
> mainly as half-price closeouts), because out-of-date docs are almost worse
> than no docs at all. This IOS has changed a lot from 11.2 or even 12.0 to
> 12.1.
>
>
>
> ""Jennifer Mellone"" wrote in message
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> > LESSONS LEARNED, ATTITUDE, AND STRUCTURED STUDY PLAN
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone could elaborate on "lessons learned" when
> studying
> > for CCIE. What did you do right? What did you do wrong? If you had to do
> it
> > all over again, what would you change - especially if someone wants to
> pass
> > the first time?
> >
> > I think the attitude "do it right and try and pass the first time" could
> be
> > helpful (I know it doesn't always happen in reality). It seems more
> positive
> > than "I'll fail the first time so I know what to expect the second or
> third
> > or later time".
> >
> > My instinct tells me that determination and practicing on the routers
> every
> > night and on weekends for at least 6 months is key, and is easier said
> than
> > done. There are no short-cuts. This is fine; it's the price one must
pay.
> > But how does one do that in a methodical and structured manner such that
> all
> > the major stones are unturned? Of course, some stones will be unturned
> > quicker than others due to experience, and others will be slower due to
> lack
> > of exper
