Re: BGP Path Selection [7:34652]

2002-02-06 Thread Cebuano

Duh,
thanks for straightening out my twisted brain.
That's what happens i guess when the reading gets
too close to the pages that we miss to see the book.
Thanks John.
Elmer

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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: BGP Path Selection [7:34652]


> If RtrB is an iBGP peer of RtrA, it will never advertise a route to RtrA
> that it learned from RtrA or any other iBGP peer.
>
> HTH,
> John
>
> >>> "Cebuano"  2/6/02 10:38:01 AM >>>
> As per CCO:
> BGP selects only one path as the best path. When the path is selected,
> BGP
> puts the selected path in its routing table and propagates the path to
> its
> neighbors.
> But...
> Step 3 - prefer the path with the largest local preference.
> Step 4 - If the local preferences are the same, prefer the path that
> was
> originated by BGP running on this router.
>
> So if RtrA originated 10.0.0.0, it advertises this to its IBGP peer
> RtrB with
> a default Local Preference = 100, now if RtrB is configured with a
> route-map
> that
> sets this incoming update's Local Preference to 250, this would result
> in
> RtrA
> installing in its route table "to get to 10.0.0.0 prefer taking the
> path that
> goes to RtrB"? So now RtrA propagates this info to RtrB?
> Please help make some sense of this.




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Re: BGP Path Selection [7:34652]

2002-02-06 Thread John Neiberger

If RtrB is an iBGP peer of RtrA, it will never advertise a route to RtrA
that it learned from RtrA or any other iBGP peer.  

HTH,
John

>>> "Cebuano"  2/6/02 10:38:01 AM >>>
As per CCO:
BGP selects only one path as the best path. When the path is selected,
BGP
puts the selected path in its routing table and propagates the path to
its
neighbors.
But...
Step 3 - prefer the path with the largest local preference.
Step 4 - If the local preferences are the same, prefer the path that
was
originated by BGP running on this router.

So if RtrA originated 10.0.0.0, it advertises this to its IBGP peer
RtrB with
a default Local Preference = 100, now if RtrB is configured with a
route-map
that
sets this incoming update's Local Preference to 250, this would result
in
RtrA
installing in its route table "to get to 10.0.0.0 prefer taking the
path that
goes to RtrB"? So now RtrA propagates this info to RtrB?
Please help make some sense of this.




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BGP Path Selection [7:34652]

2002-02-06 Thread Cebuano

As per CCO:
BGP selects only one path as the best path. When the path is selected, BGP
puts the selected path in its routing table and propagates the path to its
neighbors.
But...
Step 3 - prefer the path with the largest local preference.
Step 4 - If the local preferences are the same, prefer the path that was
originated by BGP running on this router.

So if RtrA originated 10.0.0.0, it advertises this to its IBGP peer RtrB with
a default Local Preference = 100, now if RtrB is configured with a route-map
that
sets this incoming update's Local Preference to 250, this would result in
RtrA
installing in its route table "to get to 10.0.0.0 prefer taking the path that
goes to RtrB"? So now RtrA propagates this info to RtrB?
Please help make some sense of this.




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Re: All-In-One, Lab #43, BGP path selection [7:19182]

2001-09-09 Thread EA Louie

yes.  The network statement that the authors used for OSPF would include
that interface, so they decided that prevent RouterB and RouterC from
sending updates to RouterA by issuing a passive-inteface statement.

Think about why they did that - one reason they did that is because RouterA
is in a different BGP autonomous system, and one typically prevents IGP
updates from going out to an EBGP neighbor.  The network from ser0/0 still
needs to be advertised out ser0/1 (within the same BGP AS), hence its
inclusion in the OSPF process.

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> Group,
>
> There is a 'passive-interface Serial0/0' subcommand under 'router ospf 64'
> on both RouterB and RouterC. When I do a 'sh ip ospf  int s0', I can see
> something like 'No Hellos  '.
>
> Am I correct to assume that this 'passive-int serial0/0' is configured to
> prevent RouterB and RouterC from sending Hello packets out of their
> Serial0/0 interface to RouterA ?
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Re: All-In-One, Lab #43, BGP path selection [7:19182]

2001-09-09 Thread Alex Lee

Group,

There is a 'passive-interface Serial0/0' subcommand under 'router ospf 64'
on both RouterB and RouterC. When I do a 'sh ip ospf  int s0', I can see
something like 'No Hellos  '.

Am I correct to assume that this 'passive-int serial0/0' is configured to
prevent RouterB and RouterC from sending Hello packets out of their
Serial0/0 interface to RouterA ?




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Re: bgp path selection criteria

2000-11-27 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Couple of amendments.  Asterisks mark several factors that are 
Cisco-implementation specific, although there are knobs to turn them 
to the IETF specified behavior.

"Frank Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote,

>This is the BGP attribute decision process:
>
>1 BGP Path Selection starts; if the next hop is inaccessible, do not 
>consider it.
>



>2 Consider larger BGP administrative weights first.

* weight, with a scope of a single router, is Cisco-specific

>
>3 If the routers have the same weight, consider the route with 
>higher local preference.
>
>4 If the routes have the same local preference, prefer the route 
>that the specified router originated.
>
>5 If no route was originated, prefer the shorter AS path.

* This is Cisco, not IETF, behavior, and can be disabled. The IETF 
idea seems to have been that local-preference would be set as a 
consequence of AS path filters.

>
>6 If the AS paths are of the same length, prefer external paths over 
>internal paths.
>
>7 If all paths are external, prefer the lowest origin code (IGP 
>[Interior Gateway Protocol] 
>8 If origin codes are the same, prefer the path with the lowest 
>MULTI_EXIT_DISC (MED). A missing metric is treated as zero.

   -- clarification:
HIGHER weight and local preference are better
LOWER MED is better

   * treating the missing metric as 0 is Cisco-specific; the IETF
 says to treat a missing MED as the highest possible value.
  ** By default, MEDs are comparable only between the same AS,
 unless always-consider-med is configured

>
>9 If IGP synchronization is disabled and only an internal path 
>remains, prefer the path through the closest IGP neighbor.
>
>10 Prefer the route with the lowest IP address value for the BGP router ID.

  * unless BGP load balancing is enabled.  If this feature is on, routes
that are otherwise identical (i.e., to the same AS) will be added up
to the BGP maximum-paths value.

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Re: bgp path selection criteria

2000-11-27 Thread Frank Wells

Good point Peter.


>From: "Peter Van Oene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Frank Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: bgp path selection criteria
>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:32:32 -0500
>
>Keep in mind that Weight is Cisco proprietary.  Most routers begin with 
>local pref as the first tie break.
>
>*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>
>On 11/27/2000 at 8:18 AM Frank Wells wrote:
>
> >This is the BGP attribute decision process:
> >
> >1 BGP Path Selection starts; if the next hop is inaccessible, do not
> >consider it.
> >
> >2 Consider larger BGP administrative weights first.
> >
> >3 If the routers have the same weight, consider the route with higher 
>local
> >preference.
> >
> >4 If the routes have the same local preference, prefer the route that the
> >specified router originated.
> >
> >5 If no route was originated, prefer the shorter AS path.
> >
> >6 If the AS paths are of the same length, prefer external paths over
> >internal paths.
> >
> >7 If all paths are external, prefer the lowest origin code (IGP [Interior
> >Gateway Protocol]  >
> >8 If origin codes are the same, prefer the path with the lowest
> >MULTI_EXIT_DISC (MED). A missing metric is treated as zero.
> >
> >9 If IGP synchronization is disabled and only an internal path remains,
> >prefer the path through the closest IGP neighbor.
> >
> >10 Prefer the route with the lowest IP address value for the BGP router 
>ID.
> >
> >
> >>From: "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: bgp path selection criteria
> >>Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:38:56 -0500
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>hi ,
> >>
> >>
> >>Anyone here knows which BGP path criteria takes precedence ? AS_PATH or
> >>local preference
> >>
> >>
> >>From what I read it is local preference , but in actual fact it is not 
>so ,
> >>why I said this is because I have a customer who prepends their prefixes
> >>many times then advertise them to us but on our side we set local
> >>preference
> >>to customers' routes to 90 which in fact will always come back to us if 
>we
> >>do this but this is not happening
> >>
> >>Instead the prefixes go to another providers' link because their AS-PATH 
>is
> >>shorter
> >>
> >>why is that so?
> >>
> >>
> >>Jason
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Re: bgp path selection criteria

2000-11-27 Thread Peter Van Oene

Keep in mind that Weight is Cisco proprietary.  Most routers begin with local pref as 
the first tie break.

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On 11/27/2000 at 8:18 AM Frank Wells wrote:

>This is the BGP attribute decision process:
>
>1 BGP Path Selection starts; if the next hop is inaccessible, do not 
>consider it.
>
>2 Consider larger BGP administrative weights first.
>
>3 If the routers have the same weight, consider the route with higher local 
>preference.
>
>4 If the routes have the same local preference, prefer the route that the 
>specified router originated.
>
>5 If no route was originated, prefer the shorter AS path.
>
>6 If the AS paths are of the same length, prefer external paths over 
>internal paths.
>
>7 If all paths are external, prefer the lowest origin code (IGP [Interior 
>Gateway Protocol] 
>8 If origin codes are the same, prefer the path with the lowest 
>MULTI_EXIT_DISC (MED). A missing metric is treated as zero.
>
>9 If IGP synchronization is disabled and only an internal path remains, 
>prefer the path through the closest IGP neighbor.
>
>10 Prefer the route with the lowest IP address value for the BGP router ID.
>
>
>>From: "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: bgp path selection criteria
>>Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:38:56 -0500
>>
>>
>>
>>hi ,
>>
>>
>>Anyone here knows which BGP path criteria takes precedence ? AS_PATH or
>>local preference
>>
>>
>>From what I read it is local preference , but in actual fact it is not so ,
>>why I said this is because I have a customer who prepends their prefixes
>>many times then advertise them to us but on our side we set local 
>>preference
>>to customers' routes to 90 which in fact will always come back to us if we
>>do this but this is not happening
>>
>>Instead the prefixes go to another providers' link because their AS-PATH is
>>shorter
>>
>>why is that so?
>>
>>
>>Jason
>>
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Re: bgp path selection criteria

2000-11-27 Thread Saverio Pangoli

On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Yee, Jason wrote:

> Anyone here knows which BGP path criteria takes precedence ? AS_PATH or
> local preference 

Local preference! See Halabi's book P.168


> >From what I read it is local preference , but in actual fact it is not so ,
> why I said this is because I have a customer who prepends their prefixes
> many times then advertise them to us but on our side we set local preference
> to customers' routes to 90 which in fact will always come back to us if we
> do this but this is not happening 
> 
> Instead the prefixes go to another providers' link because their AS-PATH is
> shorter 

Here you lost me; what does it mean "prefixes goes to another provider's
link"?
Please consider that the higher the local preference, the "more
preferred" is the route; can you please send to the list the output of "sh
ip bgp  for one of the prefixes you are having problem with ?

The output should be something like this: (fake example )

  3300 3300 3300 3300 8933 137, (aggregated by 137 193.206.129.254),
(received & used)
195.206.65.137 (metric 6) from 195.158.226.160 (192.121.158.8)
  Origin IGP, localpref 134, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate, best
  Community: 1755:80 1755:666 1755:1000 1755:2000
  Originator: 192.121.158.8, Cluster list: 195.158.226.160
  3300 3300 3300 3300 8933 137, (aggregated by 137 193.206.129.254),
(received & used)
195.206.65.137 (metric 6) from 195.158.226.161 (192.121.158.8)
  Origin IGP, localpref 104, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
  Community: 1755:80 1755:666 1755:1000 1755:2000
  Originator: 192.121.158.8, Cluster list: 195.158.226.161

In this example the first route is chosen for its highest local
preference..

Can you post an example of your output???

Cheers,
 Saverio

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Re: bgp path selection criteria

2000-11-27 Thread Frank Wells

This is the BGP attribute decision process:

1 BGP Path Selection starts; if the next hop is inaccessible, do not 
consider it.

2 Consider larger BGP administrative weights first.

3 If the routers have the same weight, consider the route with higher local 
preference.

4 If the routes have the same local preference, prefer the route that the 
specified router originated.

5 If no route was originated, prefer the shorter AS path.

6 If the AS paths are of the same length, prefer external paths over 
internal paths.

7 If all paths are external, prefer the lowest origin code (IGP [Interior 
Gateway Protocol] From: "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: bgp path selection criteria
>Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:38:56 -0500
>
>
>
>hi ,
>
>
>Anyone here knows which BGP path criteria takes precedence ? AS_PATH or
>local preference
>
>
>From what I read it is local preference , but in actual fact it is not so ,
>why I said this is because I have a customer who prepends their prefixes
>many times then advertise them to us but on our side we set local 
>preference
>to customers' routes to 90 which in fact will always come back to us if we
>do this but this is not happening
>
>Instead the prefixes go to another providers' link because their AS-PATH is
>shorter
>
>why is that so?
>
>
>Jason
>
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RE: bgp path selection criteria

2000-11-27 Thread Gils

Hi 

  I hope I understand your problem correctly but I will try, first of all
the local preference is a more powerful attribute than the AS_path.
There is a significant difference between them, local preference is not a
transitive attribute which means that when your update leaves your AS it
strips off the local preference value and the other AS will not take it in
to account in the path selection, the local preference attribute is only
transitive in side the AS.
The prepend option is used to "cheat" the other BGP router to think that the
way is longer.
When using that option you can only hope that there isn't any more powerful
attribute than shortest path.
There is no attribute that will change other AS's path selection, every AS
makes his own paths decision, that's way your local preference setting
didn't took effect on the path selection of your clients.  

I hope it answer your question

  Gil

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hi , 


Anyone here knows which BGP path criteria takes precedence ? AS_PATH or
local preference 


>From what I read it is local preference , but in actual fact it is not so ,
why I said this is because I have a customer who prepends their prefixes
many times then advertise them to us but on our side we set local preference
to customers' routes to 90 which in fact will always come back to us if we
do this but this is not happening 

Instead the prefixes go to another providers' link because their AS-PATH is
shorter 

why is that so?


Jason

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Re: bgp path selection criteria

2000-11-27 Thread Adam Hickey

Local Preference 1st. (see pgs 158 & 159 of Internet Routing Architectures
2nd Ed.)

Adam Hickey
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>
>
> hi ,
>
>
> Anyone here knows which BGP path criteria takes precedence ? AS_PATH or
> local preference
>
>
> From what I read it is local preference , but in actual fact it is not so
,
> why I said this is because I have a customer who prepends their prefixes
> many times then advertise them to us but on our side we set local
preference
> to customers' routes to 90 which in fact will always come back to us if we
> do this but this is not happening
>
> Instead the prefixes go to another providers' link because their AS-PATH
is
> shorter
>
> why is that so?
>
>
> Jason
>
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bgp path selection criteria

2000-11-27 Thread Yee, Jason



hi , 


Anyone here knows which BGP path criteria takes precedence ? AS_PATH or
local preference 


>From what I read it is local preference , but in actual fact it is not so ,
why I said this is because I have a customer who prepends their prefixes
many times then advertise them to us but on our side we set local preference
to customers' routes to 90 which in fact will always come back to us if we
do this but this is not happening 

Instead the prefixes go to another providers' link because their AS-PATH is
shorter 

why is that so?


Jason

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RE: bgp path selection criteria

2000-11-21 Thread Aaron J. Moreau-Cook \(Cisco Account\)

I found this the other night...

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/25.shtml

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hi ,


Anyone here knows which BGP path criteria takes precedence ? AS_PATH or
local preference


>From what I read it is local preference , but in actual fact it is not so ,
why I said this is because I have a customer who prepends their prefixes
many times then advertise them to us but on our side we set local preference
to customers' routes to 90 which in fact will always come back to us if we
do this but this is not happening

Instead the prefixes go to another providers' link because their AS-PATH is
shorter

why is that so?


Jason

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Re: bgp path selection criteria

2000-11-21 Thread Peter Van Oene

Local preference is only significant with your AS.  Thus, if traffic destined for this 
customer hit your AS, you would use local preference as the first piece of criteria 
(outside of weight in cisco I believe) to determine which of your available next hops 
into that customer you would post in your table. Outside of your AS, you generally 
only dealing with the AS-PATH attribute for path selection.

Pete



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On 11/21/2000 at 3:38 AM Yee, Jason wrote:

>hi , 
>
>
>Anyone here knows which BGP path criteria takes precedence ? AS_PATH or
>local preference 
>
>
>>From what I read it is local preference , but in actual fact it is not so ,
>why I said this is because I have a customer who prepends their prefixes
>many times then advertise them to us but on our side we set local preference
>to customers' routes to 90 which in fact will always come back to us if we
>do this but this is not happening 
>
>Instead the prefixes go to another providers' link because their AS-PATH is
>shorter 
>
>why is that so?
>
>
>Jason
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Re: bgp path selection

2000-08-31 Thread perez claude-vincent

Of course not! 

p.s: weight then local preference etc.


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> 
> "Yee, Jason" wrote:
> > 
> > hi,
> > 
> > Anyone who has taken the Routing 2.0 exam can tell
> me do we need to remember
> > the bgp path selection order , like using local
> preference first, follow by
> > weight etc.
> > 
> > I find it hard to remember
> > 
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Re: bgp path selection

2000-08-30 Thread IC Lee

Yes. You do. But just the general idea.

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> hi,
>
> Anyone who has taken the Routing 2.0 exam can tell me do we need to
remember
> the bgp path selection order , like using local preference first, follow
by
> weight etc.
>
> I find it hard to remember
>
>
> thanks
>
> Jason
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Re: bgp path selection

2000-08-30 Thread Casey Fahey


Let's just say that BGP is an essential aspect of the exam, and if you don't 
have BGP wired you will need near perfect scores on the rest of the test to 
pass...

HTH,

Casey, CCNP

>From: Kikpasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: bgp path selection
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 03:48:40 +0100
>
>I hope not, because I can't remember my self
>
>kerry
>
>"Yee, Jason" wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > Anyone who has taken the Routing 2.0 exam can tell me do we need to 
>remember
> > the bgp path selection order , like using local preference first, follow 
>by
> > weight etc.
> >
> > I find it hard to remember
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Jason
> >
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Re: bgp path selection

2000-08-30 Thread Kikpasa

I hope not, because I can't remember my self

kerry

"Yee, Jason" wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> Anyone who has taken the Routing 2.0 exam can tell me do we need to remember
> the bgp path selection order , like using local preference first, follow by
> weight etc.
> 
> I find it hard to remember
> 
> thanks
> 
> Jason
> 
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bgp path selection

2000-08-30 Thread Yee, Jason

hi, 

Anyone who has taken the Routing 2.0 exam can tell me do we need to remember
the bgp path selection order , like using local preference first, follow by
weight etc.

I find it hard to remember


thanks

Jason

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