Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-19 Thread Neil Barnett
I Was upgrading to 6.1(1) from a Software Standpoint, which required a
requisite 6.1(1) EPLD Image Upgrade. 
EPLD Image upgrade took a significant amount of time to upgrade, which is
standard. 

Neil 

-Original Message-
From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoa...@netcabo.pt] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 10:50 AM
To: 'Neil Barnett'; 'Tim Stevenson'; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'Charles Spurgeon'; 'cisco-nsp'
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

What upgrade did you make ? In my case it was from 5.2.3a to 5.2.7. The
5.2.3 EPLD was already installed.


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: Neil Barnett [mailto:interarchet...@gmail.com]
Sent: segunda-feira, 19 de Novembro de 2012 14:22
To: 'Antonio Soares'; 'Tim Stevenson'; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'Charles Spurgeon'; 'cisco-nsp'
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

I had an odd situation where I did a software upgrade on one box
successfully. On the 2nd box the VLAN Configurations were arbitrarily
missing, which was frustrating As we thought immediately that the vpc was
down for other reasons. Not sure if this had anything to do with the m1, (I
did do an EPLD Upgrade as well) 

Psion

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:29 PM
To: 'Tim Stevenson'; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'Charles Spurgeon'; 'cisco-nsp'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

Another long night... The upgrade of one Nexus was completely clean, the
second one was a nightmare. One M1-32XP card remained in the state
"powered-up" forever... The reload didn't make it work, neither the re-seat
or even the NX-OS downgrade... Had to open a P1 TAC case and then the
engineer said it was a faulty card. Got the replacement but had to delay the
installation 48 hours.

Anyone has have bad experiences with this M1 type of cards card lately ?
It's the second one that gets faulty in less than a year. It seems the MTBF
is inversely proportional to the price :(


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 18:21
To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

At 09:36 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
>Thanks Tim, I will follow that procedure, it's the one that makes 
>perfect sense.
>
>The documentation should be more clear about this kind of situations, 
>don't you think ?
>
>There are important things that are omitted between steps 10 and 11:


You mean specific to also upgrading the DRAM? 
This particular procedure is not intended to cover also upgrading DRAM at
the same time, that's not really something we assume you're doing every time
you upgrade.

BTW, Sukumar does make a good point about the install script - it will
potentially make some changes to the config based on updated features, CoPP
being a prominent example.

An alternative in your case would be to just power off, upgrade DRAM,
reboot, and then install all. Clearly that involves 2 reboots with a single
sup.

Tim


>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrad
>e/gui
>de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide
>__Rel
>ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_304731
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>http://www.ccie18473.net
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
>Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 15:51
>To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
>Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
>Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>
>At 07:18 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
> >I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup, 
> >right
>?
>
>
>Ah. In that case, clearly, the box is going to go offline when you upgrade.
>You might want to consider buying another sup.
>
>IMO, there is no huge benefit in using the install all script in a 
>single sup system - in the end, all it will do for you is a little 
>sanity checking and maybe save you from fat fingering a bootstring.
>
>In your situation, I would copy over the new images you want; manually 
>change the bootstrings & save to startup; power off the box, yank the 
>sup & add the DRAM; and then power it all back on.
>
>Tim
>
>
>
> >Regards,
> >

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-19 Thread BALLA Attila

Hello,

  We had a similar sitatuation. We have two n7k in a vpc domain with vdc 
feature as well. The upgrade of the first switch was without any issue, 
but we upgraded the second one too, and the M1 card failed to boot, this 
caused that VDC couldn't start... After removing the failed card the vdc 
was able to boot up. And we received a new line card from Cisco within 
four hours (it depends on support contract).


-A.

On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Antonio Soares wrote:


Another long night... The upgrade of one Nexus was completely clean, the
second one was a nightmare. One M1-32XP card remained in the state
"powered-up" forever... The reload didn't make it work, neither the re-seat
or even the NX-OS downgrade... Had to open a P1 TAC case and then the
engineer said it was a faulty card. Got the replacement but had to delay the
installation 48 hours.

Anyone has have bad experiences with this M1 type of cards card lately ?
It's the second one that gets faulty in less than a year. It seems the MTBF
is inversely proportional to the price :(


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 18:21
To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

At 09:36 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:

Thanks Tim, I will follow that procedure, it's the one that makes
perfect sense.

The documentation should be more clear about this kind of situations,
don't you think ?

There are important things that are omitted between steps 10 and 11:



You mean specific to also upgrading the DRAM?
This particular procedure is not intended to cover also upgrading DRAM at
the same time, that's not really something we assume you're doing every time
you upgrade.

BTW, Sukumar does make a good point about the install script - it will
potentially make some changes to the config based on updated features, CoPP
being a prominent example.

An alternative in your case would be to just power off, upgrade DRAM,
reboot, and then install all. Clearly that involves 2 reboots with a single
sup.

Tim



http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrad
e/gui
de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide
__Rel
ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_304731



Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 15:51
To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

At 07:18 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:

I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup,
right

?


Ah. In that case, clearly, the box is going to go offline when you upgrade.
You might want to consider buying another sup.

IMO, there is no huge benefit in using the install all script in a
single sup system - in the end, all it will do for you is a little
sanity checking and maybe save you from fat fingering a bootstring.

In your situation, I would copy over the new images you want; manually
change the bootstrings & save to startup; power off the box, yank the
sup & add the DRAM; and then power it all back on.

Tim




Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: Dirk Woellhaf [mailto:dirk.woell...@gmail.com]
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 14:10
To: Antonio Soares
Cc: Charles Spurgeon; cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

Hi Antonio,

You should be able to do the memory-upgrade without rebooting the box.
I've never done it on my I own but I know a few which did without any
problem. I believe they first upgraded the memory and then did the

update!


Dirk

Sent from my iPhone

On 08.11.2012, at 13:42, Antonio Soares  wrote:


Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread
the bug was mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.

Bug CSCtn61286 - Boot variables are not set up correctly on Sup-2
after ISSU

So in my case, it should not give me problems (5.2.3a to 5.2.7).

But since I also need to upgrade the SUP1 RAM from 4G to 8G, I
have no other option than doing the traditional upgrade. It's the
only way to just send the box down 1 time:

- update the boot variables
- power off and upgrade the RAM
- power on

The install all script has another limitation: it won't let us to
reboot when we chose to do it. This is what happened to me last time:

+
Switch will be reloaded for disruptive upgrade.
Do you want to continue with the installation (y/n)?  y

Install is in progress, please wait

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-19 Thread Antonio Soares
What upgrade did you make ? In my case it was from 5.2.3a to 5.2.7. The
5.2.3 EPLD was already installed.


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: Neil Barnett [mailto:interarchet...@gmail.com] 
Sent: segunda-feira, 19 de Novembro de 2012 14:22
To: 'Antonio Soares'; 'Tim Stevenson'; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'Charles Spurgeon'; 'cisco-nsp'
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

I had an odd situation where I did a software upgrade on one box
successfully. On the 2nd box the VLAN Configurations were arbitrarily
missing, which was frustrating As we thought immediately that the vpc was
down for other reasons. Not sure if this had anything to do with the m1, (I
did do an EPLD Upgrade as well) 

Psion

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:29 PM
To: 'Tim Stevenson'; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'Charles Spurgeon'; 'cisco-nsp'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

Another long night... The upgrade of one Nexus was completely clean, the
second one was a nightmare. One M1-32XP card remained in the state
"powered-up" forever... The reload didn't make it work, neither the re-seat
or even the NX-OS downgrade... Had to open a P1 TAC case and then the
engineer said it was a faulty card. Got the replacement but had to delay the
installation 48 hours.

Anyone has have bad experiences with this M1 type of cards card lately ?
It's the second one that gets faulty in less than a year. It seems the MTBF
is inversely proportional to the price :(


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 18:21
To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

At 09:36 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
>Thanks Tim, I will follow that procedure, it's the one that makes 
>perfect sense.
>
>The documentation should be more clear about this kind of situations, 
>don't you think ?
>
>There are important things that are omitted between steps 10 and 11:


You mean specific to also upgrading the DRAM? 
This particular procedure is not intended to cover also upgrading DRAM at
the same time, that's not really something we assume you're doing every time
you upgrade.

BTW, Sukumar does make a good point about the install script - it will
potentially make some changes to the config based on updated features, CoPP
being a prominent example.

An alternative in your case would be to just power off, upgrade DRAM,
reboot, and then install all. Clearly that involves 2 reboots with a single
sup.

Tim


>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrad
>e/gui
>de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide
>__Rel
>ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_304731
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>http://www.ccie18473.net
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
>Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 15:51
>To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
>Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
>Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>
>At 07:18 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
> >I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup, 
> >right
>?
>
>
>Ah. In that case, clearly, the box is going to go offline when you upgrade.
>You might want to consider buying another sup.
>
>IMO, there is no huge benefit in using the install all script in a 
>single sup system - in the end, all it will do for you is a little 
>sanity checking and maybe save you from fat fingering a bootstring.
>
>In your situation, I would copy over the new images you want; manually 
>change the bootstrings & save to startup; power off the box, yank the 
>sup & add the DRAM; and then power it all back on.
>
>Tim
>
>
>
> >Regards,
> >
> >Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> >amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> >http://www.ccie18473.net
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Dirk Woellhaf [mailto:dirk.woell...@gmail.com]
> >Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 14:10
> >To: Antonio Soares
> >Cc: Charles Spurgeon; cisco-nsp
> >Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
> >
> >Hi Antonio,
> >
> >You should be able to do the memory-

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-19 Thread Neil Barnett
I had an odd situation where I did a software upgrade on one box
successfully. On the 2nd box the VLAN Configurations were arbitrarily
missing, which was frustrating 
As we thought immediately that the vpc was down for other reasons. Not sure
if this had anything to do with the m1, (I did do an EPLD Upgrade as well) 

Psion

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:29 PM
To: 'Tim Stevenson'; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'Charles Spurgeon'; 'cisco-nsp'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

Another long night... The upgrade of one Nexus was completely clean, the
second one was a nightmare. One M1-32XP card remained in the state
"powered-up" forever... The reload didn't make it work, neither the re-seat
or even the NX-OS downgrade... Had to open a P1 TAC case and then the
engineer said it was a faulty card. Got the replacement but had to delay the
installation 48 hours.

Anyone has have bad experiences with this M1 type of cards card lately ?
It's the second one that gets faulty in less than a year. It seems the MTBF
is inversely proportional to the price :(


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 18:21
To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

At 09:36 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
>Thanks Tim, I will follow that procedure, it's the one that makes 
>perfect sense.
>
>The documentation should be more clear about this kind of situations, 
>don't you think ?
>
>There are important things that are omitted between steps 10 and 11:


You mean specific to also upgrading the DRAM? 
This particular procedure is not intended to cover also upgrading DRAM at
the same time, that's not really something we assume you're doing every time
you upgrade.

BTW, Sukumar does make a good point about the install script - it will
potentially make some changes to the config based on updated features, CoPP
being a prominent example.

An alternative in your case would be to just power off, upgrade DRAM,
reboot, and then install all. Clearly that involves 2 reboots with a single
sup.

Tim


>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrad
>e/gui
>de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide
>__Rel
>ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_304731
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>http://www.ccie18473.net
>
>
>
>-Original Message-----
>From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
>Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 15:51
>To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
>Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
>Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>
>At 07:18 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
> >I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup, 
> >right
>?
>
>
>Ah. In that case, clearly, the box is going to go offline when you upgrade.
>You might want to consider buying another sup.
>
>IMO, there is no huge benefit in using the install all script in a 
>single sup system - in the end, all it will do for you is a little 
>sanity checking and maybe save you from fat fingering a bootstring.
>
>In your situation, I would copy over the new images you want; manually 
>change the bootstrings & save to startup; power off the box, yank the 
>sup & add the DRAM; and then power it all back on.
>
>Tim
>
>
>
> >Regards,
> >
> >Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> >amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> >http://www.ccie18473.net
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Dirk Woellhaf [mailto:dirk.woell...@gmail.com]
> >Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 14:10
> >To: Antonio Soares
> >Cc: Charles Spurgeon; cisco-nsp
> >Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
> >
> >Hi Antonio,
> >
> >You should be able to do the memory-upgrade without rebooting the box.
> >I've never done it on my I own but I know a few which did without any 
> >problem. I believe they first upgraded the memory and then did the
update!
> >
> >Dirk
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >On 08.11.2012, at 13:42, Antonio Soares  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread 
> > > the bug was mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.
> > >
>

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-19 Thread Antonio Soares
Just for future reference if someone runs into the same issues:

The hw revision of the M132XP that had no problems: 1.7
The hw revision of the M132XP that failed: 1.5
The hw revision of the spare card that had no problems: 2.3


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: sábado, 17 de Novembro de 2012 21:24
To: 'Colin Whittaker'; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

Unbelievable, this is a 70k card, isn't it ?


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Colin Whittaker
Sent: sábado, 17 de Novembro de 2012 18:22
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 05:28:48PM -, Antonio Soares wrote:
> Another long night... The upgrade of one Nexus was completely clean, 
> the second one was a nightmare. One M1-32XP card remained in the state 
> "powered-up" forever... The reload didn't make it work, neither the 
> re-seat or even the NX-OS downgrade... Had to open a P1 TAC case and 
> then the engineer said it was a faulty card. Got the replacement but 
> had to delay the installation 48 hours.
> 
> Anyone has have bad experiences with this M1 type of cards card lately ?
> It's the second one that gets faulty in less than a year. It seems the 
> MTBF is inversely proportional to the price :(

Upgrade cycles tend to flush out latent faults in the linecards.
When doing upgrades it is best to have spare cards on hand to handle those
that fail.

The failure rate on the M1 cards has gotten a lot better over the last two
years. Gone are the days of 20% of the cards being DOA.

Colin

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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-17 Thread Antonio Soares
Unbelievable, this is a 70k card, isn't it ?


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Colin Whittaker
Sent: sábado, 17 de Novembro de 2012 18:22
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 05:28:48PM -, Antonio Soares wrote:
> Another long night... The upgrade of one Nexus was completely clean, 
> the second one was a nightmare. One M1-32XP card remained in the state 
> "powered-up" forever... The reload didn't make it work, neither the 
> re-seat or even the NX-OS downgrade... Had to open a P1 TAC case and 
> then the engineer said it was a faulty card. Got the replacement but 
> had to delay the installation 48 hours.
> 
> Anyone has have bad experiences with this M1 type of cards card lately ?
> It's the second one that gets faulty in less than a year. It seems the 
> MTBF is inversely proportional to the price :(

Upgrade cycles tend to flush out latent faults in the linecards.
When doing upgrades it is best to have spare cards on hand to handle those
that fail.

The failure rate on the M1 cards has gotten a lot better over the last two
years. Gone are the days of 20% of the cards being DOA.

Colin

-- 
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http://colin.netech.ie  co...@netech.ie
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-17 Thread Dirk Woellhaf
Hi,

had about 6-7 faulty M1-32XP Linecards in the last 1.5 years.

I already asked Cisco about some known build-errors for that card but they 
never came back with a answer. 
As far as I know, they expect about 6% of the cards to be faulty. It is what 
is,... :(


regards

 
Am 17.11.2012 um 18:28 schrieb "Antonio Soares" :

> Another long night... The upgrade of one Nexus was completely clean, the
> second one was a nightmare. One M1-32XP card remained in the state
> "powered-up" forever... The reload didn't make it work, neither the re-seat
> or even the NX-OS downgrade... Had to open a P1 TAC case and then the
> engineer said it was a faulty card. Got the replacement but had to delay the
> installation 48 hours.
> 
> Anyone has have bad experiences with this M1 type of cards card lately ?
> It's the second one that gets faulty in less than a year. It seems the MTBF
> is inversely proportional to the price :(
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> http://www.ccie18473.net
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com] 
> Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 18:21
> To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
> Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
> Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
> 
> At 09:36 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
>> Thanks Tim, I will follow that procedure, it's the one that makes 
>> perfect sense.
>> 
>> The documentation should be more clear about this kind of situations, 
>> don't you think ?
>> 
>> There are important things that are omitted between steps 10 and 11:
> 
> 
> You mean specific to also upgrading the DRAM? 
> This particular procedure is not intended to cover also upgrading DRAM at
> the same time, that's not really something we assume you're doing every time
> you upgrade.
> 
> BTW, Sukumar does make a good point about the install script - it will
> potentially make some changes to the config based on updated features, CoPP
> being a prominent example.
> 
> An alternative in your case would be to just power off, upgrade DRAM,
> reboot, and then install all. Clearly that involves 2 reboots with a single
> sup.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrad
>> e/gui 
>> de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide
>> __Rel
>> ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_304731
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>> http://www.ccie18473.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
>> Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 15:51
>> To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
>> Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>> 
>> At 07:18 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
>>> I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup, 
>>> right
>> ?
>> 
>> 
>> Ah. In that case, clearly, the box is going to go offline when you upgrade.
>> You might want to consider buying another sup.
>> 
>> IMO, there is no huge benefit in using the install all script in a 
>> single sup system - in the end, all it will do for you is a little 
>> sanity checking and maybe save you from fat fingering a bootstring.
>> 
>> In your situation, I would copy over the new images you want; manually 
>> change the bootstrings & save to startup; power off the box, yank the 
>> sup & add the DRAM; and then power it all back on.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>>> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>>> http://www.ccie18473.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Dirk Woellhaf [mailto:dirk.woell...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 14:10
>>> To: Antonio Soares
>>> Cc: Charles Spurgeon; cisco-nsp
>>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>>> 
>>> Hi Antonio,
>>> 
>>> You should be able to do the memory-upgrade without rebooting the box.
>>> I've never done it on my I own but I know a few which did without any 
>>> problem. I believe they first upgraded the memory and then did the
> update!
>>> 
>>> Dirk
>>> 
>>> Sent from my i

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-17 Thread Colin Whittaker
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 05:28:48PM -, Antonio Soares wrote:
> Another long night... The upgrade of one Nexus was completely clean, the
> second one was a nightmare. One M1-32XP card remained in the state
> "powered-up" forever... The reload didn't make it work, neither the re-seat
> or even the NX-OS downgrade... Had to open a P1 TAC case and then the
> engineer said it was a faulty card. Got the replacement but had to delay the
> installation 48 hours.
> 
> Anyone has have bad experiences with this M1 type of cards card lately ?
> It's the second one that gets faulty in less than a year. It seems the MTBF
> is inversely proportional to the price :(

Upgrade cycles tend to flush out latent faults in the linecards.
When doing upgrades it is best to have spare cards on hand to handle
those that fail.

The failure rate on the M1 cards has gotten a lot better over the last
two years. Gone are the days of 20% of the cards being DOA.

Colin

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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-17 Thread Antonio Soares
Another long night... The upgrade of one Nexus was completely clean, the
second one was a nightmare. One M1-32XP card remained in the state
"powered-up" forever... The reload didn't make it work, neither the re-seat
or even the NX-OS downgrade... Had to open a P1 TAC case and then the
engineer said it was a faulty card. Got the replacement but had to delay the
installation 48 hours.

Anyone has have bad experiences with this M1 type of cards card lately ?
It's the second one that gets faulty in less than a year. It seems the MTBF
is inversely proportional to the price :(


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com] 
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 18:21
To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

At 09:36 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
>Thanks Tim, I will follow that procedure, it's the one that makes 
>perfect sense.
>
>The documentation should be more clear about this kind of situations, 
>don't you think ?
>
>There are important things that are omitted between steps 10 and 11:


You mean specific to also upgrading the DRAM? 
This particular procedure is not intended to cover also upgrading DRAM at
the same time, that's not really something we assume you're doing every time
you upgrade.

BTW, Sukumar does make a good point about the install script - it will
potentially make some changes to the config based on updated features, CoPP
being a prominent example.

An alternative in your case would be to just power off, upgrade DRAM,
reboot, and then install all. Clearly that involves 2 reboots with a single
sup.

Tim


>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrad
>e/gui 
>de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide
>__Rel
>ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_304731
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>http://www.ccie18473.net
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
>Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 15:51
>To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
>Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
>Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>
>At 07:18 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
> >I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup, 
> >right
>?
>
>
>Ah. In that case, clearly, the box is going to go offline when you upgrade.
>You might want to consider buying another sup.
>
>IMO, there is no huge benefit in using the install all script in a 
>single sup system - in the end, all it will do for you is a little 
>sanity checking and maybe save you from fat fingering a bootstring.
>
>In your situation, I would copy over the new images you want; manually 
>change the bootstrings & save to startup; power off the box, yank the 
>sup & add the DRAM; and then power it all back on.
>
>Tim
>
>
>
> >Regards,
> >
> >Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> >amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> >http://www.ccie18473.net
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Dirk Woellhaf [mailto:dirk.woell...@gmail.com]
> >Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 14:10
> >To: Antonio Soares
> >Cc: Charles Spurgeon; cisco-nsp
> >Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
> >
> >Hi Antonio,
> >
> >You should be able to do the memory-upgrade without rebooting the box.
> >I've never done it on my I own but I know a few which did without any 
> >problem. I believe they first upgraded the memory and then did the
update!
> >
> >Dirk
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >On 08.11.2012, at 13:42, Antonio Soares  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread 
> > > the bug was mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.
> > >
> > > Bug CSCtn61286 - Boot variables are not set up correctly on Sup-2 
> > > after ISSU
> > >
> > > So in my case, it should not give me problems (5.2.3a to 5.2.7).
> > >
> > > But since I also need to upgrade the SUP1 RAM from 4G to 8G, I 
> > > have no other option than doing the traditional upgrade. It's the 
> > > only way to just send the box down 1 time:
> > >
> > > - update the boot variables
> > > - power off and upgrade the RAM
> > > - power on
> > >
> > > The install all script has another limitation: it won't le

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-08 Thread Tim Stevenson

At 09:36 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:

Thanks Tim, I will follow that procedure, it's the one that makes perfect
sense.

The documentation should be more clear about this kind of situations, don't
you think ?

There are important things that are omitted between steps 10 and 11:



You mean specific to also upgrading the DRAM? 
This particular procedure is not intended to 
cover also upgrading DRAM at the same time, 
that's not really something we assume you're doing every time you upgrade.


BTW, Sukumar does make a good point about the 
install script - it will potentially make some 
changes to the config based on updated features, 
CoPP being a prominent example.


An alternative in your case would be to just 
power off, upgrade DRAM, reboot, and then install 
all. Clearly that involves 2 reboots with a single sup.


Tim



http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrade/gui
de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide__Rel
ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_304731



Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com]
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 15:51
To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

At 07:18 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
>I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup, right
?


Ah. In that case, clearly, the box is going to go offline when you upgrade.
You might want to consider buying another sup.

IMO, there is no huge benefit in using the install all script in a single
sup system - in the end, all it will do for you is a little sanity checking
and maybe save you from fat fingering a bootstring.

In your situation, I would copy over the new images you want; manually
change the bootstrings & save to startup; power off the box, yank the sup &
add the DRAM; and then power it all back on.

Tim



>Regards,
>
>Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>http://www.ccie18473.net
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dirk Woellhaf [mailto:dirk.woell...@gmail.com]
>Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 14:10
>To: Antonio Soares
>Cc: Charles Spurgeon; cisco-nsp
>Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>
>Hi Antonio,
>
>You should be able to do the memory-upgrade without rebooting the box.
>I've never done it on my I own but I know a few which did without any
>problem. I believe they first upgraded the memory and then did the update!
>
>Dirk
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On 08.11.2012, at 13:42, Antonio Soares  wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread the
> > bug was mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.
> >
> > Bug CSCtn61286 - Boot variables are not set up correctly on Sup-2
> > after ISSU
> >
> > So in my case, it should not give me problems (5.2.3a to 5.2.7).
> >
> > But since I also need to upgrade the SUP1 RAM from 4G to 8G, I have
> > no other option than doing the traditional upgrade. It's the only
> > way to just send the box down 1 time:
> >
> > - update the boot variables
> > - power off and upgrade the RAM
> > - power on
> >
> > The install all script has another limitation: it won't let us to
> > reboot when we chose to do it. This is what happened to me last time:
> >
> > +
> > Switch will be reloaded for disruptive upgrade.
> > Do you want to continue with the installation (y/n)?  y
> >
> > Install is in progress, please wait.
> >
> > (..)
> >
> > A few minutes later:
> >
> > Finishing the upgrade, switch will reboot in 10 seconds.
> > +
> >
> > I don't see how to upgrade the RAM and upgrade the NX-OS with the
> > install script in just one shot...
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP) amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> > http://www.ccie18473.net
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Charles Spurgeon [mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu]
> > Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 00:50
> > To: Antonio Soares
> > Cc: 'Tóth András'; 'cisco-nsp'
> > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
> >
> > While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from
> > slot 5 and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
> > 5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.
> >
> > -Charles
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-08 Thread Antonio Soares
Thanks Tim, I will follow that procedure, it's the one that makes perfect
sense.

The documentation should be more clear about this kind of situations, don't
you think ?

There are important things that are omitted between steps 10 and 11:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrade/gui
de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide__Rel
ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_304731



Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: Tim Stevenson [mailto:tstev...@cisco.com] 
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 15:51
To: Antonio Soares; 'Dirk Woellhaf'
Cc: 'cisco-nsp'; 'Charles Spurgeon'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

At 07:18 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
>I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup, right
?


Ah. In that case, clearly, the box is going to go offline when you upgrade.
You might want to consider buying another sup.

IMO, there is no huge benefit in using the install all script in a single
sup system - in the end, all it will do for you is a little sanity checking
and maybe save you from fat fingering a bootstring.

In your situation, I would copy over the new images you want; manually
change the bootstrings & save to startup; power off the box, yank the sup &
add the DRAM; and then power it all back on.

Tim



>Regards,
>
>Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>http://www.ccie18473.net
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dirk Woellhaf [mailto:dirk.woell...@gmail.com]
>Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 14:10
>To: Antonio Soares
>Cc: Charles Spurgeon; cisco-nsp
>Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>
>Hi Antonio,
>
>You should be able to do the memory-upgrade without rebooting the box.
>I've never done it on my I own but I know a few which did without any 
>problem. I believe they first upgraded the memory and then did the update!
>
>Dirk
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On 08.11.2012, at 13:42, Antonio Soares  wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread the 
> > bug was mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.
> >
> > Bug CSCtn61286 - Boot variables are not set up correctly on Sup-2 
> > after ISSU
> >
> > So in my case, it should not give me problems (5.2.3a to 5.2.7).
> >
> > But since I also need to upgrade the SUP1 RAM from 4G to 8G, I have 
> > no other option than doing the traditional upgrade. It's the only 
> > way to just send the box down 1 time:
> >
> > - update the boot variables
> > - power off and upgrade the RAM
> > - power on
> >
> > The install all script has another limitation: it won't let us to 
> > reboot when we chose to do it. This is what happened to me last time:
> >
> > +
> > Switch will be reloaded for disruptive upgrade.
> > Do you want to continue with the installation (y/n)?  y
> >
> > Install is in progress, please wait.
> >
> > (..)
> >
> > A few minutes later:
> >
> > Finishing the upgrade, switch will reboot in 10 seconds.
> > +
> >
> > I don't see how to upgrade the RAM and upgrade the NX-OS with the 
> > install script in just one shot...
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP) amsoa...@netcabo.pt 
> > http://www.ccie18473.net
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Charles Spurgeon [mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu]
> > Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 00:50
> > To: Antonio Soares
> > Cc: 'Tóth András'; 'cisco-nsp'
> > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
> >
> > While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from 
> > slot 5 and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
> > 5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.
> >
> > -Charles
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35PM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
> >> Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this 
> >> bug. So I suppose the install all script will work well this time. 
> >> I will come back to the list next week with the good news. I hope 
> >> :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP) amsoa...@netcabo.pt 
> >> http://www.ccie18473.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> &g

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-08 Thread Sukumar Subburayan (sukumars)
Any new CoPP best Practice configs update available in the new code is applied 
only when using install script.

sukumar

Thumb typed on my Smartphone. Excuse Typos.

On Nov 8, 2012, at 7:54 AM, "Tim Stevenson (tstevens)"  
wrote:

> At 07:18 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:
>> I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup, right ?
> 
> 
> Ah. In that case, clearly, the box is going to go offline when you upgrade. 
> You might want to consider buying another sup.
> 
> IMO, there is no huge benefit in using the install all script in a single sup 
> system - in the end, all it will do for you is a little sanity checking and 
> maybe save you from fat fingering a bootstring.
> 
> In your situation, I would copy over the new images you want; manually change 
> the bootstrings & save to startup; power off the box, yank the sup & add the 
> DRAM; and then power it all back on.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>> http://www.ccie18473.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dirk Woellhaf [mailto:dirk.woell...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 14:10
>> To: Antonio Soares
>> Cc: Charles Spurgeon; cisco-nsp
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>> 
>> Hi Antonio,
>> 
>> You should be able to do the memory-upgrade without rebooting the box.
>> I've never done it on my I own but I know a few which did without any
>> problem. I believe they first upgraded the memory and then did the update!
>> 
>> Dirk
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 08.11.2012, at 13:42, Antonio Soares  wrote:
>> 
>> > Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread the
>> > bug was mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.
>> >
>> > Bug CSCtn61286 - Boot variables are not set up correctly on Sup-2
>> > after ISSU
>> >
>> > So in my case, it should not give me problems (5.2.3a to 5.2.7).
>> >
>> > But since I also need to upgrade the SUP1 RAM from 4G to 8G, I have no
>> > other option than doing the traditional upgrade. It's the only way to
>> > just send the box down 1 time:
>> >
>> > - update the boot variables
>> > - power off and upgrade the RAM
>> > - power on
>> >
>> > The install all script has another limitation: it won't let us to
>> > reboot when we chose to do it. This is what happened to me last time:
>> >
>> > +
>> > Switch will be reloaded for disruptive upgrade.
>> > Do you want to continue with the installation (y/n)?  y
>> >
>> > Install is in progress, please wait.
>> >
>> > (..)
>> >
>> > A few minutes later:
>> >
>> > Finishing the upgrade, switch will reboot in 10 seconds.
>> > +
>> >
>> > I don't see how to upgrade the RAM and upgrade the NX-OS with the
>> > install script in just one shot...
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>> > amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>> > http://www.ccie18473.net
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Charles Spurgeon [mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu]
>> > Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 00:50
>> > To: Antonio Soares
>> > Cc: 'Tóth András'; 'cisco-nsp'
>> > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>> >
>> > While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from
>> > slot 5 and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
>> > 5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.
>> >
>> > -Charles
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35PM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
>> >> Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this
>> >> bug. So I suppose the install all script will work well this time. I
>> >> will come back to the list next week with the good news. I hope :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>> >> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>> >> http://www.ccie18473.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: Tóth András [mai

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-08 Thread Tim Stevenson

At 07:18 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:

I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup, right ?



Ah. In that case, clearly, the box is going to go 
offline when you upgrade. You might want to consider buying another sup.


IMO, there is no huge benefit in using the 
install all script in a single sup system - in 
the end, all it will do for you is a little 
sanity checking and maybe save you from fat fingering a bootstring.


In your situation, I would copy over the new 
images you want; manually change the bootstrings 
& save to startup; power off the box, yank the 
sup & add the DRAM; and then power it all back on.


Tim




Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: Dirk Woellhaf [mailto:dirk.woell...@gmail.com]
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 14:10
To: Antonio Soares
Cc: Charles Spurgeon; cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

Hi Antonio,

You should be able to do the memory-upgrade without rebooting the box.
I've never done it on my I own but I know a few which did without any
problem. I believe they first upgraded the memory and then did the update!

Dirk

Sent from my iPhone

On 08.11.2012, at 13:42, Antonio Soares  wrote:

> Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread the
> bug was mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.
>
> Bug CSCtn61286 - Boot variables are not set up correctly on Sup-2
> after ISSU
>
> So in my case, it should not give me problems (5.2.3a to 5.2.7).
>
> But since I also need to upgrade the SUP1 RAM from 4G to 8G, I have no
> other option than doing the traditional upgrade. It's the only way to
> just send the box down 1 time:
>
> - update the boot variables
> - power off and upgrade the RAM
> - power on
>
> The install all script has another limitation: it won't let us to
> reboot when we chose to do it. This is what happened to me last time:
>
> +
> Switch will be reloaded for disruptive upgrade.
> Do you want to continue with the installation (y/n)?  y
>
> Install is in progress, please wait.
>
> (..)
>
> A few minutes later:
>
> Finishing the upgrade, switch will reboot in 10 seconds.
> +
>
> I don't see how to upgrade the RAM and upgrade the NX-OS with the
> install script in just one shot...
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> http://www.ccie18473.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Spurgeon [mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu]
> Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 00:50
> To: Antonio Soares
> Cc: 'Tóth András'; 'cisco-nsp'
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>
> While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from
> slot 5 and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
> 5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.
>
> -Charles
>
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35PM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
>> Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this
>> bug. So I suppose the install all script will work well this time. I
>> will come back to the list next week with the good news. I hope :)
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>> http://www.ccie18473.net
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tóth András [mailto:diosbej...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 23:35
>> To: Antonio Soares
>> Cc: cisco-nsp
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>>
>> Hi Antonio,
>>
>> In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables)
>> will not update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's
>> non-disruptive with dual-supervisors.
>>
>> There's a defect which caused the behavior you were seeing,
>> CSCtn61286 which affects 5.1(3). Since you were upgrading from that
>> version, it was still impacting the upgrade process. It has been
>> fixed in 5.1(4) and 5.2(1) already, so upgrading from 5.2(3a) to
>> 5.2(7) will not have the
> same issue.
>>
>> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?met
>> h
>> od=fet
>> chBugDetails&bugId=CSCtn61286
>>
>>
>> If the boot variables are incorrect, you can edit them as you'd do on
>> an IOS device, make sure you update the kickstart and system as well.
>>
>> Upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) can be done using the install all
>> (ISSU) method.
>>
>> Best reg

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-08 Thread Tim Stevenson

At 04:37 AM 11/8/2012, Antonio Soares mused:

Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread the bug was
mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.

Bug CSCtn61286 - Boot variables are not set up correctly on Sup-2 after ISSU

So in my case, it should not give me problems (5.2.3a to 5.2.7).

But since I also need to upgrade the SUP1 RAM from 4G to 8G, I have no other
option than doing the traditional upgrade. It's the only way to just send
the box down 1 time:



You should not need to take the box down to do a 
DRAM upgrade if you have 2 sups. Provided you're 
on 5.1 or later you don't need to upgrade the 
software/do an ISSU either. You will perform a 
stateful switchover from the active to the 
standby sup at one point in the process in order 
to upgrade the memory on the second sup.


The procedure is described in the user docs:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/hw/nexus7000/installation/guide/n7k_replacing.html#wp1272213

This procedure is completely unrelated to 
upgrading the software (provided you're already 
on/past the minimum release to support 8GB which is 5.1(1)).


I would point out that at Step 21, you need to 
make sure to wait for the newly inserted 8GB sup 
come fully online and enter hot standby mode 
before attempting to switchover/yank the other sup.


Tim



- update the boot variables
- power off and upgrade the RAM
- power on

The install all script has another limitation: it won't let us to reboot
when we chose to do it. This is what happened to me last time:

+
Switch will be reloaded for disruptive upgrade.
Do you want to continue with the installation (y/n)?  y

Install is in progress, please wait.

(..)

A few minutes later:

Finishing the upgrade, switch will reboot in 10 seconds.
+

I don't see how to upgrade the RAM and upgrade the NX-OS with the install
script in just one shot...


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: Charles Spurgeon [mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu]
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 00:50
To: Antonio Soares
Cc: 'Tóth András'; 'cisco-nsp'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from slot 5
and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.

-Charles

On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35PM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
> Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this
> bug. So I suppose the install all script will work well this time. I
> will come back to the list next week with the good news. I hope :)
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> http://www.ccie18473.net
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tóth András [mailto:diosbej...@gmail.com]
> Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 23:35
> To: Antonio Soares
> Cc: cisco-nsp
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>
> Hi Antonio,
>
> In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) will
> not update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's
> non-disruptive with dual-supervisors.
>
> There's a defect which caused the behavior you were seeing, CSCtn61286
> which affects 5.1(3). Since you were upgrading from that version, it
> was still impacting the upgrade process. It has been fixed in 5.1(4)
> and 5.2(1) already, so upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) will not have the
same issue.
>
> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?meth
> od=fet
> chBugDetails&bugId=CSCtn61286
>
>
> If the boot variables are incorrect, you can edit them as you'd do on
> an IOS device, make sure you update the kickstart and system as well.
>
> Upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) can be done using the install all
> (ISSU) method.
>
> Best regards
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Antonio Soares 
wrote:
> > Hello group,
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or
> > just update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a
> > Nexus
> 7K ?
> >
> >
> >
> > The question applies to a single supervisor setup.
> >
> >
> >
> > The official documentation mentions the two ways of doing it:
> >
> >
> >
> > - using the install all script:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upg
> > ra
> > de/gui
> > de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Gu
> > id
> > e__Rel
> > ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#con_31

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-08 Thread Antonio Soares
I just have one SUP... You are talking about dual supervisors setup, right ?


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: Dirk Woellhaf [mailto:dirk.woell...@gmail.com] 
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 14:10
To: Antonio Soares
Cc: Charles Spurgeon; cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

Hi Antonio,

You should be able to do the memory-upgrade without rebooting the box.
I've never done it on my I own but I know a few which did without any
problem. I believe they first upgraded the memory and then did the update!

Dirk

Sent from my iPhone

On 08.11.2012, at 13:42, Antonio Soares  wrote:

> Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread the 
> bug was mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.
>
> Bug CSCtn61286 - Boot variables are not set up correctly on Sup-2 
> after ISSU
>
> So in my case, it should not give me problems (5.2.3a to 5.2.7).
>
> But since I also need to upgrade the SUP1 RAM from 4G to 8G, I have no 
> other option than doing the traditional upgrade. It's the only way to 
> just send the box down 1 time:
>
> - update the boot variables
> - power off and upgrade the RAM
> - power on
>
> The install all script has another limitation: it won't let us to 
> reboot when we chose to do it. This is what happened to me last time:
>
> +
> Switch will be reloaded for disruptive upgrade.
> Do you want to continue with the installation (y/n)?  y
>
> Install is in progress, please wait.
>
> (….)
>
> A few minutes later:
>
> Finishing the upgrade, switch will reboot in 10 seconds.
> +
>
> I don't see how to upgrade the RAM and upgrade the NX-OS with the 
> install script in just one shot...
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> http://www.ccie18473.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Spurgeon [mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu]
> Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 00:50
> To: Antonio Soares
> Cc: 'Tóth András'; 'cisco-nsp'
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>
> While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from 
> slot 5 and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
> 5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.
>
> -Charles
>
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35PM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
>> Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this 
>> bug. So I suppose the install all script will work well this time. I 
>> will come back to the list next week with the good news. I hope :)
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>> http://www.ccie18473.net
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tóth András [mailto:diosbej...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 23:35
>> To: Antonio Soares
>> Cc: cisco-nsp
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>>
>> Hi Antonio,
>>
>> In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) 
>> will not update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's 
>> non-disruptive with dual-supervisors.
>>
>> There's a defect which caused the behavior you were seeing, 
>> CSCtn61286 which affects 5.1(3). Since you were upgrading from that 
>> version, it was still impacting the upgrade process. It has been 
>> fixed in 5.1(4) and 5.2(1) already, so upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 
>> 5.2(7) will not have the
> same issue.
>>
>> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?met
>> h
>> od=fet
>> chBugDetails&bugId=CSCtn61286
>>
>>
>> If the boot variables are incorrect, you can edit them as you'd do on 
>> an IOS device, make sure you update the kickstart and system as well.
>>
>> Upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) can be done using the install all
>> (ISSU) method.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Antonio Soares 
> wrote:
>>> Hello group,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or 
>>> just update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a 
>>> Nexus
>> 7K ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The question applies to a single supervisor setup.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The official documentation mentions the two ways of doing it:
>>>

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-08 Thread Dirk Woellhaf
Hi Antonio,

You should be able to do the memory-upgrade without rebooting the box.
I've never done it on my I own but I know a few which did without any
problem. I believe they first upgraded the memory and then did the
update!

Dirk

Sent from my iPhone

On 08.11.2012, at 13:42, Antonio Soares  wrote:

> Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread the bug was
> mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.
>
> Bug CSCtn61286 - Boot variables are not set up correctly on Sup-2 after ISSU
>
> So in my case, it should not give me problems (5.2.3a to 5.2.7).
>
> But since I also need to upgrade the SUP1 RAM from 4G to 8G, I have no other
> option than doing the traditional upgrade. It's the only way to just send
> the box down 1 time:
>
> - update the boot variables
> - power off and upgrade the RAM
> - power on
>
> The install all script has another limitation: it won't let us to reboot
> when we chose to do it. This is what happened to me last time:
>
> +
> Switch will be reloaded for disruptive upgrade.
> Do you want to continue with the installation (y/n)?  y
>
> Install is in progress, please wait.
>
> (….)
>
> A few minutes later:
>
> Finishing the upgrade, switch will reboot in 10 seconds.
> +
>
> I don't see how to upgrade the RAM and upgrade the NX-OS with the install
> script in just one shot...
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> http://www.ccie18473.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Spurgeon [mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu]
> Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 00:50
> To: Antonio Soares
> Cc: 'Tóth András'; 'cisco-nsp'
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>
> While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from slot 5
> and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
> 5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.
>
> -Charles
>
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35PM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
>> Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this
>> bug. So I suppose the install all script will work well this time. I
>> will come back to the list next week with the good news. I hope :)
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>> http://www.ccie18473.net
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tóth András [mailto:diosbej...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 23:35
>> To: Antonio Soares
>> Cc: cisco-nsp
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>>
>> Hi Antonio,
>>
>> In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) will
>> not update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's
>> non-disruptive with dual-supervisors.
>>
>> There's a defect which caused the behavior you were seeing, CSCtn61286
>> which affects 5.1(3). Since you were upgrading from that version, it
>> was still impacting the upgrade process. It has been fixed in 5.1(4)
>> and 5.2(1) already, so upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) will not have the
> same issue.
>>
>> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?meth
>> od=fet
>> chBugDetails&bugId=CSCtn61286
>>
>>
>> If the boot variables are incorrect, you can edit them as you'd do on
>> an IOS device, make sure you update the kickstart and system as well.
>>
>> Upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) can be done using the install all
>> (ISSU) method.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Antonio Soares 
> wrote:
>>> Hello group,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or
>>> just update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a
>>> Nexus
>> 7K ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The question applies to a single supervisor setup.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The official documentation mentions the two ways of doing it:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - using the install all script:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upg
>>> ra
>>> de/gui
>>> de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Gu
>>> id
>>> e__Rel
>>> ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#con_314241
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-08 Thread Antonio Soares
Yes it is. But you can still use the ISSU method of doing things (install all) 
with just one SUP. It doesn't make too much sense, right ?


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: Alexander Lim [mailto:nsp.alexander@gmail.com] 
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 04:56
To: Charles Spurgeon
Cc: Antonio Soares; cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

Hi Charles,

I thought redundant sup is required for ISSU?

Regards,
Alexander Lim

On 8 Nov, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Charles Spurgeon  
wrote:

> While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from 
> slot 5 and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
> 5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.
> 
> -Charles
> 
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35PM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
>> Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this 
>> bug. So I suppose the install all script will work well this time. I 
>> will come back to the list next week with the good news. I hope :)
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>> http://www.ccie18473.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tóth András [mailto:diosbej...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 23:35
>> To: Antonio Soares
>> Cc: cisco-nsp
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>> 
>> Hi Antonio,
>> 
>> In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) 
>> will not update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's 
>> non-disruptive with dual-supervisors.
>> 
>> There's a defect which caused the behavior you were seeing, 
>> CSCtn61286 which affects 5.1(3). Since you were upgrading from that 
>> version, it was still impacting the upgrade process. It has been 
>> fixed in 5.1(4) and 5.2(1) already, so upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) will 
>> not have the same issue.
>> 
>> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?met
>> hod=fet
>> chBugDetails&bugId=CSCtn61286
>> 
>> 
>> If the boot variables are incorrect, you can edit them as you'd do on 
>> an IOS device, make sure you update the kickstart and system as well.
>> 
>> Upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) can be done using the install all
>> (ISSU) method.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Antonio Soares  wrote:
>>> Hello group,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or 
>>> just update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a 
>>> Nexus
>> 7K ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The question applies to a single supervisor setup.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The official documentation mentions the two ways of doing it:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - using the install all script:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upg
>>> ra
>>> de/gui
>>> de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Gu
>>> id
>>> e__Rel
>>> ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#con_314241
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - using the traditional procedure:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upg
>>> ra
>>> de/gui
>>> de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Gu
>>> id
>>> e__Rel
>>> ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_39E26688E1204F8CAAE876450A575E73
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I had a bad experience in the past with the install all script. I 
>>> was doing an upgrade to a 7010 with only 1 supervisor that was 
>>> installed in
>> slot 6.
>>> The install all script has a problem, may a bug, it only correctly 
>>> updates the boot variables for slot 5:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
>>> 
>>> boot system bootflash:/n7000-s1-dk9.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
>>> 
>>> boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.1.3.bin sup-2
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The install all script assumes that if there is only one supervisor, 
>>> it should be on slot 5. Above we can see that the boot system is 
>>

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-08 Thread Antonio Soares
Thanks, I don't know if you noticed but somewhere in the thread the bug was
mentioned and it is resolved in 5.1.5 and later.

Bug CSCtn61286 - Boot variables are not set up correctly on Sup-2 after ISSU

So in my case, it should not give me problems (5.2.3a to 5.2.7).

But since I also need to upgrade the SUP1 RAM from 4G to 8G, I have no other
option than doing the traditional upgrade. It's the only way to just send
the box down 1 time:

- update the boot variables
- power off and upgrade the RAM
- power on

The install all script has another limitation: it won't let us to reboot
when we chose to do it. This is what happened to me last time:

+
Switch will be reloaded for disruptive upgrade.
Do you want to continue with the installation (y/n)?  y
 
Install is in progress, please wait.
 
(….)
 
A few minutes later:
 
Finishing the upgrade, switch will reboot in 10 seconds.
+

I don't see how to upgrade the RAM and upgrade the NX-OS with the install
script in just one shot...


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: Charles Spurgeon [mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu] 
Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012 00:50
To: Antonio Soares
Cc: 'Tóth András'; 'cisco-nsp'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from slot 5
and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.

-Charles

On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35PM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
> Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this 
> bug. So I suppose the install all script will work well this time. I 
> will come back to the list next week with the good news. I hope :)
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> http://www.ccie18473.net
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tóth András [mailto:diosbej...@gmail.com]
> Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 23:35
> To: Antonio Soares
> Cc: cisco-nsp
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
> 
> Hi Antonio,
> 
> In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) will 
> not update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's 
> non-disruptive with dual-supervisors.
> 
> There's a defect which caused the behavior you were seeing, CSCtn61286 
> which affects 5.1(3). Since you were upgrading from that version, it 
> was still impacting the upgrade process. It has been fixed in 5.1(4) 
> and 5.2(1) already, so upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) will not have the
same issue.
> 
> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?meth
> od=fet
> chBugDetails&bugId=CSCtn61286
> 
> 
> If the boot variables are incorrect, you can edit them as you'd do on 
> an IOS device, make sure you update the kickstart and system as well.
> 
> Upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) can be done using the install all
> (ISSU) method.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Antonio Soares 
wrote:
> > Hello group,
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or 
> > just update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a 
> > Nexus
> 7K ?
> >
> >
> >
> > The question applies to a single supervisor setup.
> >
> >
> >
> > The official documentation mentions the two ways of doing it:
> >
> >
> >
> > - using the install all script:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upg
> > ra
> > de/gui
> > de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Gu
> > id
> > e__Rel
> > ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#con_314241
> >
> >
> >
> > - using the traditional procedure:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upg
> > ra
> > de/gui
> > de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Gu
> > id
> > e__Rel
> > ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_39E26688E1204F8CAAE876450A575E73
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a bad experience in the past with the install all script. I 
> > was doing an upgrade to a 7010 with only 1 supervisor that was 
> > installed in
> slot 6.
> > The install all script has a problem, may a bug, it only correctly 
> > updates the boot variables for slot 5:
> >
> >
> >
> > boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
> >
> > boot system bootfla

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-07 Thread Alexander Lim
Hi Charles,

I thought redundant sup is required for ISSU?

Regards,
Alexander Lim

On 8 Nov, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Charles Spurgeon  
wrote:

> While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from
> slot 5 and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
> 5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.
> 
> -Charles
> 
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35PM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
>> Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this bug. So I
>> suppose the install all script will work well this time. I will come back to
>> the list next week with the good news. I hope :)
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>> http://www.ccie18473.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tóth András [mailto:diosbej...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 23:35
>> To: Antonio Soares
>> Cc: cisco-nsp
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
>> 
>> Hi Antonio,
>> 
>> In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) will not
>> update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's non-disruptive with
>> dual-supervisors.
>> 
>> There's a defect which caused the behavior you were seeing, CSCtn61286 which
>> affects 5.1(3). Since you were upgrading from that version, it was still
>> impacting the upgrade process. It has been fixed in 5.1(4) and 5.2(1)
>> already, so upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) will not have the same issue.
>> 
>> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fet
>> chBugDetails&bugId=CSCtn61286
>> 
>> 
>> If the boot variables are incorrect, you can edit them as you'd do on an IOS
>> device, make sure you update the kickstart and system as well.
>> 
>> Upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) can be done using the install all
>> (ISSU) method.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Antonio Soares  wrote:
>>> Hello group,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or 
>>> just update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a Nexus
>> 7K ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The question applies to a single supervisor setup.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The official documentation mentions the two ways of doing it:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - using the install all script:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgra
>>> de/gui 
>>> de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guid
>>> e__Rel
>>> ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#con_314241
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - using the traditional procedure:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgra
>>> de/gui 
>>> de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guid
>>> e__Rel
>>> ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_39E26688E1204F8CAAE876450A575E73
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I had a bad experience in the past with the install all script. I was 
>>> doing an upgrade to a 7010 with only 1 supervisor that was installed in
>> slot 6.
>>> The install all script has a problem, may a bug, it only correctly 
>>> updates the boot variables for slot 5:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
>>> 
>>> boot system bootflash:/n7000-s1-dk9.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
>>> 
>>> boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.1.3.bin sup-2
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The install all script assumes that if there is only one supervisor, 
>>> it should be on slot 5. Above we can see that the boot system is 
>>> missing for sup-2.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In summary, is there any problem if I simply update the boot variables 
>>> and reload ? May I end up with the supervisor running the new NX-OS 
>>> release and the modules the old NX-OS release ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>>> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>>> 
>>> http://www.ccie18473.net <http://www.ccie18473.net/>
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-07 Thread Charles Spurgeon
While doing some more testing this aft I also removed the sup from
slot 5 and did a "disruptive" single sup ISSU upgrade from 5.1(5) to
5.2(7) on the slot 6 sup without issues.

-Charles

On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:48:35PM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
> Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this bug. So I
> suppose the install all script will work well this time. I will come back to
> the list next week with the good news. I hope :)
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> http://www.ccie18473.net
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tóth András [mailto:diosbej...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 23:35
> To: Antonio Soares
> Cc: cisco-nsp
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade
> 
> Hi Antonio,
> 
> In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) will not
> update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's non-disruptive with
> dual-supervisors.
> 
> There's a defect which caused the behavior you were seeing, CSCtn61286 which
> affects 5.1(3). Since you were upgrading from that version, it was still
> impacting the upgrade process. It has been fixed in 5.1(4) and 5.2(1)
> already, so upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) will not have the same issue.
> 
> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fet
> chBugDetails&bugId=CSCtn61286
> 
> 
> If the boot variables are incorrect, you can edit them as you'd do on an IOS
> device, make sure you update the kickstart and system as well.
> 
> Upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) can be done using the install all
> (ISSU) method.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Antonio Soares  wrote:
> > Hello group,
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or 
> > just update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a Nexus
> 7K ?
> >
> >
> >
> > The question applies to a single supervisor setup.
> >
> >
> >
> > The official documentation mentions the two ways of doing it:
> >
> >
> >
> > - using the install all script:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgra
> > de/gui 
> > de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guid
> > e__Rel
> > ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#con_314241
> >
> >
> >
> > - using the traditional procedure:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgra
> > de/gui 
> > de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guid
> > e__Rel
> > ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_39E26688E1204F8CAAE876450A575E73
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a bad experience in the past with the install all script. I was 
> > doing an upgrade to a 7010 with only 1 supervisor that was installed in
> slot 6.
> > The install all script has a problem, may a bug, it only correctly 
> > updates the boot variables for slot 5:
> >
> >
> >
> > boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
> >
> > boot system bootflash:/n7000-s1-dk9.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
> >
> > boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.1.3.bin sup-2
> >
> >
> >
> > The install all script assumes that if there is only one supervisor, 
> > it should be on slot 5. Above we can see that the boot system is 
> > missing for sup-2.
> >
> >
> >
> > In summary, is there any problem if I simply update the boot variables 
> > and reload ? May I end up with the supervisor running the new NX-OS 
> > release and the modules the old NX-OS release ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> > amsoa...@netcabo.pt
> >
> > http://www.ccie18473.net <http://www.ccie18473.net/>
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-07 Thread Dirk Woellhaf
Hi,

I've seen ISSU disrupting data-forwarding during a CPoC in 2011 but
this was all related to a bug. I have recently updated 4 N7k's from
5.2(3) to 5.2(5) without any problem!

Regards dirk

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Tim Stevenson  wrote:

> At 06:05 AM 11/7/2012, Pete Templin mused:
>
>  On 11/7/12 6:02 AM, Alexander Lim wrote:
>>
>>  Do you know what caused the 3 secs blip? How can Cisco claims that it is
>>> non-disruptive then?
>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>>
>>
>> From what I've learned from others, the 'install all' unpacks the new
>> files which run the processes, and then the processes are stopped/started.
>>  The blip aligns with the card that's actively being upgraded, as shown by
>> the 'install all' or 'show install all status' if run on another login
>> session/console.
>>
>
>
> There are no software processes that affect hardware/data plane
> forwarding, any process can be statefully restarted without impacting data
> flow (in theory, ignoring bugs). We do claim it is non-disruptive and we
> can easily demonstrate that and have many times.
>
> It is unexpected and not per design to lose data traffic during an ISSU,
> provided you are ISSU'ing to/from supported releases (as per the ISSU
> matrix in the user documentation), all your data traffic is being hardware
> switched, and assuming no software defects (such as the specific one cited
> earlier in the thread).
>
> 2 cents,
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>  pt
>>
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-07 Thread Tim Stevenson

At 06:05 AM 11/7/2012, Pete Templin mused:

On 11/7/12 6:02 AM, Alexander Lim wrote:

Do you know what caused the 3 secs blip? How can Cisco claims that 
it is non-disruptive then?

Thanks for sharing.


From what I've learned from others, the 'install all' unpacks the 
new files which run the processes, and then the processes are 
stopped/started.  The blip aligns with the card that's actively 
being upgraded, as shown by the 'install all' or 'show install all 
status' if run on another login session/console.



There are no software processes that affect hardware/data plane 
forwarding, any process can be statefully restarted without impacting 
data flow (in theory, ignoring bugs). We do claim it is 
non-disruptive and we can easily demonstrate that and have many times.


It is unexpected and not per design to lose data traffic during an 
ISSU, provided you are ISSU'ing to/from supported releases (as per 
the ISSU matrix in the user documentation), all your data traffic is 
being hardware switched, and assuming no software defects (such as 
the specific one cited earlier in the thread).


2 cents,
Tim





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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-07 Thread Pete Templin

On 11/7/12 6:02 AM, Alexander Lim wrote:


Do you know what caused the 3 secs blip? How can Cisco claims that it is 
non-disruptive then?
Thanks for sharing.


From what I've learned from others, the 'install all' unpacks the new 
files which run the processes, and then the processes are 
stopped/started.  The blip aligns with the card that's actively being 
upgraded, as shown by the 'install all' or 'show install all status' if 
run on another login session/console.


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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-07 Thread Alexander Lim
Hi Pete,

Do you know what caused the 3 secs blip? How can Cisco claims that it is 
non-disruptive then?
Thanks for sharing. 

Regards,
Alexander Lim

On 7 Nov, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Pete Templin  wrote:

> On 11/6/12 3:35 PM, Tóth András wrote:
>> Hi Antonio,
>> 
>> In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) will
>> not update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's
>> non-disruptive with dual-supervisors.
> 
> Just to add a data point, it's almost non-disruptive.  There's a noticeable 
> blink on a per-linecard basis, probably <3 seconds, but I've had to deal with 
> explaining the blip during a "non-disruptive" upgrade.
> 
> pt
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-06 Thread Pete Templin

On 11/6/12 3:35 PM, Tóth András wrote:

Hi Antonio,

In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) will
not update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's
non-disruptive with dual-supervisors.


Just to add a data point, it's almost non-disruptive.  There's a 
noticeable blink on a per-linecard basis, probably <3 seconds, but I've 
had to deal with explaining the blip during a "non-disruptive" upgrade.


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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-06 Thread Antonio Soares
Great, I must confess that I searched a lot and I didn't find this bug. So I
suppose the install all script will work well this time. I will come back to
the list next week with the good news. I hope :)


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net



-Original Message-
From: Tóth András [mailto:diosbej...@gmail.com] 
Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 23:35
To: Antonio Soares
Cc: cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

Hi Antonio,

In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) will not
update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's non-disruptive with
dual-supervisors.

There's a defect which caused the behavior you were seeing, CSCtn61286 which
affects 5.1(3). Since you were upgrading from that version, it was still
impacting the upgrade process. It has been fixed in 5.1(4) and 5.2(1)
already, so upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) will not have the same issue.

http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fet
chBugDetails&bugId=CSCtn61286


If the boot variables are incorrect, you can edit them as you'd do on an IOS
device, make sure you update the kickstart and system as well.

Upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) can be done using the install all
(ISSU) method.

Best regards

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Antonio Soares  wrote:
> Hello group,
>
>
>
> Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or 
> just update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a Nexus
7K ?
>
>
>
> The question applies to a single supervisor setup.
>
>
>
> The official documentation mentions the two ways of doing it:
>
>
>
> - using the install all script:
>
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgra
> de/gui 
> de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guid
> e__Rel
> ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#con_314241
>
>
>
> - using the traditional procedure:
>
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgra
> de/gui 
> de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guid
> e__Rel
> ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_39E26688E1204F8CAAE876450A575E73
>
>
>
> I had a bad experience in the past with the install all script. I was 
> doing an upgrade to a 7010 with only 1 supervisor that was installed in
slot 6.
> The install all script has a problem, may a bug, it only correctly 
> updates the boot variables for slot 5:
>
>
>
> boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
>
> boot system bootflash:/n7000-s1-dk9.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
>
> boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.1.3.bin sup-2
>
>
>
> The install all script assumes that if there is only one supervisor, 
> it should be on slot 5. Above we can see that the boot system is 
> missing for sup-2.
>
>
>
> In summary, is there any problem if I simply update the boot variables 
> and reload ? May I end up with the supervisor running the new NX-OS 
> release and the modules the old NX-OS release ?
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>
> http://www.ccie18473.net <http://www.ccie18473.net/>
>
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-06 Thread Tóth András
Hi Antonio,

In general, doing a traditional upgrade (changing boot variables) will
not update the BIOS for example, while an ISSU does and it's
non-disruptive with dual-supervisors.

There's a defect which caused the behavior you were seeing, CSCtn61286
which affects 5.1(3). Since you were upgrading from that version, it
was still impacting the upgrade process. It has been fixed in 5.1(4)
and 5.2(1) already, so upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) will not have
the same issue.

http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fetchBugDetails&bugId=CSCtn61286


If the boot variables are incorrect, you can edit them as you'd do on
an IOS device, make sure you update the kickstart and system as well.

Upgrading from 5.2(3a) to 5.2(7) can be done using the install all
(ISSU) method.

Best regards

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Antonio Soares  wrote:
> Hello group,
>
>
>
> Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or just
> update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a Nexus 7K ?
>
>
>
> The question applies to a single supervisor setup.
>
>
>
> The official documentation mentions the two ways of doing it:
>
>
>
> - using the install all script:
>
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrade/gui
> de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide__Rel
> ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#con_314241
>
>
>
> - using the traditional procedure:
>
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrade/gui
> de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide__Rel
> ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_39E26688E1204F8CAAE876450A575E73
>
>
>
> I had a bad experience in the past with the install all script. I was doing
> an upgrade to a 7010 with only 1 supervisor that was installed in slot 6.
> The install all script has a problem, may a bug, it only correctly updates
> the boot variables for slot 5:
>
>
>
> boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
>
> boot system bootflash:/n7000-s1-dk9.5.2.3a.bin sup-1
>
> boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.1.3.bin sup-2
>
>
>
> The install all script assumes that if there is only one supervisor, it
> should be on slot 5. Above we can see that the boot system is missing for
> sup-2.
>
>
>
> In summary, is there any problem if I simply update the boot variables and
> reload ? May I end up with the supervisor running the new NX-OS release and
> the modules the old NX-OS release ?
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
> amsoa...@netcabo.pt
>
> http://www.ccie18473.net 
>
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-06 Thread Tim Stevenson

Hi Antonio,

The difference between the two procedures is that 
"install all" will perform an in-service software 
upgrade, ie, this should be non disruptive to the 
data plane while the sups and all the modules will upgrade to the new version.


Versus just changing the boot strings and 
rebooting, which is clearly disruptive to the 
entire system. In the end, both should result in 
all sups & modules running the new release.


Not sure what issues you ran into with ISSU, 
would at a minimum suggest you check the release 
notes to make sure the starting and target releases are compatible etc.


Hope that helps,
Tim


At 03:04 PM 11/6/2012, Antonio Soares mused:

Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. Since it is a lab environment, may I ask
you to see what happens when you upgrade with the "install all" script and
with the sup in slot 6 ? I had the problem when upgrading from 5.1.3 to
5.2.3a. Now I need to upgrade to 5.2.7 and I want to avoid the issue.



Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: Charles Spurgeon [mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu]
Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 22:39
To: Antonio Soares
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:38:46AM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
> Hello group,
>
>
>
> Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or
> just update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a Nexus
7K ?
>

> In summary, is there any problem if I simply update the boot variables
> and reload ? May I end up with the supervisor running the new NX-OS
> release and the modules the old NX-OS release ?
>

I was just testing that this aft and it works fine in my lab tests, with the
caveat that I have a dual-sup 7010.

Manually configuring the boot strings and then typing reload resulted in
sups and mods all coming up on the new code.

-Charles

Charles E. Spurgeon / UTnet
UT Austin ITS / Networking
c.spurg...@its.utexas.edu / 512.475.9265



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Routing & Switching CCIE #5561
Distinguished Technical Marketing Engineer, Cisco Nexus 7000
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-06 Thread Antonio Soares
Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. Since it is a lab environment, may I ask
you to see what happens when you upgrade with the "install all" script and
with the sup in slot 6 ? I had the problem when upgrading from 5.1.3 to
5.2.3a. Now I need to upgrade to 5.2.7 and I want to avoid the issue.



Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: Charles Spurgeon [mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu] 
Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012 22:39
To: Antonio Soares
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:38:46AM +, Antonio Soares wrote:
> Hello group,
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or 
> just update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a Nexus
7K ?
> 

> In summary, is there any problem if I simply update the boot variables 
> and reload ? May I end up with the supervisor running the new NX-OS 
> release and the modules the old NX-OS release ?
> 

I was just testing that this aft and it works fine in my lab tests, with the
caveat that I have a dual-sup 7010. 

Manually configuring the boot strings and then typing reload resulted in
sups and mods all coming up on the new code.

-Charles

Charles E. Spurgeon / UTnet
UT Austin ITS / Networking
c.spurg...@its.utexas.edu / 512.475.9265



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[c-nsp] Nexus 7K NX-OS Upgrade

2012-11-06 Thread Antonio Soares
Hello group,

 

Anyone knows the difference between using the install all script or just
update the boot system flash command when upgrading NX-OS on a Nexus 7K ?

 

The question applies to a single supervisor setup.

 

The official documentation mentions the two ways of doing it:

 

- using the install all script:

 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrade/gui
de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide__Rel
ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#con_314241

 

- using the traditional procedure:

 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/upgrade/gui
de/b_Cisco_Nexus_7000_Series_NX-OS_Software_Upgrade_and_Downgrade_Guide__Rel
ease_5.x_chapter_00.html#task_39E26688E1204F8CAAE876450A575E73

 

I had a bad experience in the past with the install all script. I was doing
an upgrade to a 7010 with only 1 supervisor that was installed in slot 6.
The install all script has a problem, may a bug, it only correctly updates
the boot variables for slot 5:

 

boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.2.3a.bin sup-1

boot system bootflash:/n7000-s1-dk9.5.2.3a.bin sup-1

boot kickstart bootflash:/n7000-s1-kickstart.5.1.3.bin sup-2

 

The install all script assumes that if there is only one supervisor, it
should be on slot 5. Above we can see that the boot system is missing for
sup-2.

 

In summary, is there any problem if I simply update the boot variables and
reload ? May I end up with the supervisor running the new NX-OS release and
the modules the old NX-OS release ?

 

 

Regards,

 

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt

http://www.ccie18473.net  

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