Stus-List Re: boat stuff for sale

[Pete Shelquist-comcast]

I’m just trying to sell a few extra sails and don’t want to get into a war on 
sail design or what’s right for someone’s boat.  But for the record, In my area 
Phrf is only concerned with the spin’s total sail area, not luff length.   
Check with your local rating representative if you have concerns.

Regarding luff,   Assuming you tack the thing to the fore peak like I do, the 
head of the spin is hoisted above the Genoa.  That could add a foot.  Second, 
you want a curve in the luff of the spin so it will fly to weather of the 
forestry as you run.  It’s easy and stable this way and I cruise and race with 
it, but this also will add luff length greater than a Genoa.

Genoas have a tight luff because they are upwind sails.   Asym are downwind 
sails.

I hope that helps.   It’s a good sail and I did well with it.  I just don’t 
need it anymore.

For the jib, whether you can furl it depends if your hoist height is greater 
than the luff length I listed.   You’ll note the leech is shorter than the 
luff, so that indicates it shouldn’t bunch up on the foot .  It does not have 
foam luff.

Only One spin and the jib are still available if anyone wants them.  Let me 
know.



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From: Rick Brass 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 11:07:01 AM
To: 'Stus-List' ; jtsai...@gmail.com 
Subject: Stus-List Re: boat stuff for sale


James (and others)



The middle length of a symmetrical spin, and the luff of an a-sail, are 
nominally 95% of the length of the headstay of a boat. For our 38-2s with a 
52’1” headstay, that would be about 49’6”. Longer gets a penalty under PHRF. If 
you’re a cruiser, it just makes the sail a bit harder to handle and trim.



The luff of a regular headsail can vary depending on how the sail is used. If 
it is going into a luff tape (not a roller furler) it can be only a few inches 
shorter than the headstay length (so about 52’ for our boats). If the sail is 
going onto a roller, you must shorten the luff to allow for the furling drum at 
the bottom and the roller bearing at the top. For my installation that 
translates to something between 2’6” and 3’ – so the luff of my newest headsail 
was about 49’.



If my old and unreliable memory serves, Pete has a 37 (the early 80’s version) 
or a 38LF. I’d guess the a sails are oversize sails for cruising.



Pete:



If you’re seeing this, I might like to buy your crosscut Dacron jib to use as a 
#3 backup sail for my 38. Is it set up for roller furling, or perhaps for 
roller reefing with a foam or rope luff?





Rick Brass

Washington, NC









From: james taylor [mailto:jtsai...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 5:40 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: boat stuff for sale



I'm very interested in one of Asym spin, but the measurements of them don't 
seem to match the Genoas. I'm with Edd, what are the J, I and ISP measurements 
of your boat?

James Taylor

Delaney

C 38 Mk2

Oriental NC



On Oct 12, 2020, at 11:17 AM, 
mailto:pete.shelqu...@comcast.net>> 
mailto:pete.shelqu...@comcast.net>> wrote:



Please be sure to trim your messages when replying to an email.

All –

2nd try at this listing.  I’m not sure what happened the first time, but it 
here goes again….

**



I have a few items for sale if anyone is interested;



Cross cut dacron jib =48’10”x45’4”x16’ Good+ condition, #6 luff tape, $250

L/M #1 Dacron = 48’6” x48’x24’6” Good condition, #6 luff tape, $200

White asym spin = 55’6”x 47’6”x31’ Fair condition, $150

Green asym spin = 55’2”x 47’3”x 31’ Fair condition $150

White asym spin =55’6”x47’8”x31’  Fair condition $150

2x Barient 28 Non ST = $100 ea.



All prices +shipping from Minneapolis.



Thanks,



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Stus-List Re: Fender covers - yes or no?

[Tom Buscaglia]

For Alera the admiral made a set of cloth covers for our vertical fenders.  
Very similar to the ones Taylor makes.

No scratches on the awlgrip.

Typoed from my iPhone

Tom Buscaglia
Alera 1990 C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
O 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660
Skype - thombusc



> On Oct 17, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Dennis C.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ed,
> 
> Yes.  Touche' had the same situation in Pensacola.  Floating pier, shared 
> slip, no piling between the boats.  I used two "hole through the middle" 
> fenders hung vertically.  No issues.
> 
> However, it brings up a possible discussion - whether to use fender covers or 
> not.  The Admiral didn't like the discoloration on Touche's white fenders so 
> she bought black mesh fenders covers.  
> 
> Well, mesh fender covers are OK.  They reduce the squeaking when boats are 
> rafted together.  However, when docked on a pier where contact with marine 
> growth, barnacles, etc., is possible, they present the potential for 
> scratching the topsides.  Any particles of crushed crustaceans, etc. can 
> become trapped in the mesh.  When the fender spins, and it will, the debris 
> will scratch the boat.
> 
> With the boat freshly painted, our answer is to purchase black fenders and 
> not use fender covers.  We never raft up so that will work.
> 
>   -- 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 10:49 AM Edward Levert  wrote:
>> 
>> The floating docks in my marina do not provide the ability to hold the boat 
>> away from the finger pier. If there is any west in the wind, the boat is up 
>> against the fender. Has anyone experienced this?
>> 
>> Ed Levert
>> C 34 Briar Patch
>> New Orleans
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List Winter Charter Recommendation?

[Kevin Driscoll]

Hi all,
I am looking for a recommendation for a bare boat charter some place warm
this winter. We are in Oregon, so we would prefer a west coast spot if
possible. It would be my young family and a friend's young family, i.e.
four kids under 5 years old.
I prefer a mono hull in the 45 foot range. A catamaran could work too I
suppose.
Any thoughts? A direct flight from Portland or Seattle to our destination
is our preferred option.
Thanks!
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Stus-List Re: Touche' hurricane repair progress

[Glen Eddie]

Freya IV did Awlcraft vivid red.

Congrats Dennis.

Glen Eddie

Tel:  416-777-5357

Fax:  1-888-812-2557


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Briar Patch red?  I like it.  Touche's red is Awlcraft 2000 Sunfast Red.

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 10:49 AM Edward Levert 
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A gorgeous red Dennis.

Ed Levert
C 34 Briar Patch
New Orleans

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Stus-List Fender covers - yes or no?

[Dennis C.]

Ed,

Yes.  Touche' had the same situation in Pensacola.  Floating pier, shared
slip, no piling between the boats.  I used two "hole through the middle"
fenders hung vertically.  No issues.

However, it brings up a possible discussion - whether to use fender covers
or not.  The Admiral didn't like the discoloration on Touche's white
fenders so she bought black mesh fenders covers.

Well, mesh fender covers are OK.  They reduce the squeaking when boats are
rafted together.  However, when docked on a pier where contact with marine
growth, barnacles, etc., is possible, they present the potential for
scratching the topsides.  Any particles of crushed crustaceans, etc. can
become trapped in the mesh.  When the fender spins, and it will, the debris
will scratch the boat.

With the boat freshly painted, our answer is to purchase black fenders and
not use fender covers.  We never raft up so that will work.

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 10:49 AM Edward Levert 
wrote:

>
> The floating docks in my marina do not provide the ability to hold the
> boat away from the finger pier. If there is any west in the wind, the boat
> is up against the fender. Has anyone experienced this?
>
> Ed Levert
> C 34 Briar Patch
> New Orleans
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Touche' hurricane repair progress

[Dennis C.]

Briar Patch red?  I like it.  Touche's red is Awlcraft 2000 Sunfast Red.

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 10:49 AM Edward Levert 
wrote:

>
> A gorgeous red Dennis.
>
> Ed Levert
> C 34 Briar Patch
> New Orleans
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Touche' hurricane repair progress

[Edward Levert]

A gorgeous red Dennis. I recently had a non serious talk with my boatyard
owner about painting Briar Patch red. But one of my concerns is the
potential scuffing caused by a sole fender. The floating docks in my marina
do not provide the ability to hold the boat away from the finger pier. If
there is any west in the wind, the boat is up against the fender. Has
anyone experienced this?

Ed Levert
C 34 Briar Patch
New Orleans

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:30 PM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Wow Dennis, she looks fantastic!
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
> On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Dennis C.  wrote:
>
> The repairs to Touche' from Hurricane Sally are progressing well.  From
> this:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TDqinFU9_oADHeFNxPgwFKHUoYLbR7gP/view?usp=sharing
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CmFi5TTPXsPhFgN3MvqFayt7_hpNfi7J/view?usp=sharing
>
> To this:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QAGmZ4qATCD4oDKd7ZmZttDDvE1wTMi9/view?usp=sharing
>
> Repairs and new bottom paint should be complete by the end of next week,
> weather permitting.  Touche' will be a new boat!
>
> The sad part is Touche's pier in Pensacola was severely damaged during the
> storm and must be rebuilt.  I will have to bring Touche' back to my other
> slip in Louisiana for a few months.  It also means there is no place to
> dock Touche' after splashing in order to provision it for the trip.  Since
> the now condemned pier was at the same shipyard, they have been very
> accommodating since Touche' was a long term tenant.  I scheduled the last
> slot for their work week for splash next Friday.  Since the haul out bay
> will not be needed until Monday morning, the shipyard is allowing me to
> keep the boat in the haul out bay for the weekend.  We'll provision it and
> depart Saturday.
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Engine Hours

[Josh Muckley]

When you pull the dipstip, put a single full drop on a paper towel or clean
white rag.  If that drop developers a halo then you may have a diesel in
your oil.  In the states off-road diesel is dyed red - in that case look
for the halo to be red-ish.

Smell the rag.  Burnt smell is bad, diesel fuel smell is bad.

Look at the rag in the sun.  Glittery is bad.  Chunks are bad.  White or
chocolate milkshake needs further monitoring.  It could be a coolant leak.
Look for lowering coolant level and increasing oil level.  If neither is
occurring then it could just be a small amount of condensation.  In that
case, it's not something wrong with the engine. You just need to run the
engine up to temp more often and for longer periods, or install a block
heater.

Once all the oil is absorbed into the rag, is there anything left on the
surface?  Black is likely products of combustion.  Grey could be lead from
the babbitt on the bearings.

Take an additional single drop between two fingers.  It is unlikely that
you will feel anything other than slippery oil, but if you do then you have
problems.

Check the dipstick.  In the area above the level of the oil.  Assuming it
isn't stainless - Is there rust?  This would again show signs of moisture
in the crankcase.

Must of the time you're not going to find anything out of the norm... But
if you don't look or know what to look for then you won't see it when it
happens.

There is also guidance in the manual for some of our engines which
addresses the angle at which they are mounted.  For this reason the high
and low mark on the dipstick may not be accurate to your installation.
Adjust as necessary.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 07:24 John and Maryann Read 
wrote:

> Agree it pays to check oil level regularly.  Another cause for oil
> increasing is mechanical fuel pump diaphragm leaking diesel into the oil.
> (Got the t shirt)  apparently is not an uncommon issue with Yanmars
>
>
>
> John and Maryann
>
> Legacy III
>
> 1982 C 34
>
> Noank, CT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2020 9:45 AM
> *To:* 'Stus-List'
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Engine Hours
>
>
>
> Here is a very simple way to prevent early engine death – Check the oil
> frequently and especially after the boat sits. If the level starts going UP
> do not start the engine! There is water in the sump lifting the oil. I had
> a ski boat that would gain a few quarts of water sitting for a week and we
> put a pan under the engine and drained the water out before we started it.
> Running it makes an oatmeal mush that does not really lubricate and wrecks
> the engine.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I*
>
> *www.dellabarba.com *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Engine oil drain hose

[Marek Dziedzic]

Exactly what I use. Even bought at that place.

Marek

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Ken Heaton
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 06:41
To: Stus-List
Subject: Stus-List Re: Engine oil drain hose

I've used one of these for the last 10 years or so.  Sucks the oil up through 
the dipstick tube when the oil is still hot.

https://ca.binnacle.com/p3291/Pela-6000-Oil-Extractor-6-Litre/product_info.html

Works well, no issues.

Ken H.

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Stus-List Re: Engine Hours

[John and Maryann Read]

Agree it pays to check oil level regularly.  Another cause for oil increasing 
is mechanical fuel pump diaphragm leaking diesel into the oil. (Got the t 
shirt)  apparently is not an uncommon issue with Yanmars

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT

 

 

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 9:45 AM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Stus-List Re: Engine Hours

 

Here is a very simple way to prevent early engine death – Check the oil 
frequently and especially after the boat sits. If the level starts going UP do 
not start the engine! There is water in the sump lifting the oil. I had a ski 
boat that would gain a few quarts of water sitting for a week and we put a pan 
under the engine and drained the water out before we started it. Running it 
makes an oatmeal mush that does not really lubricate and wrecks the engine. 

 

 

Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I

www.dellabarba.com

 

 

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Engine oil drain hose

[John and Maryann Read]

Have used the 2 liter version of this many years on our Yanmar 3GM.  Works 
fine.  Best if oil is worm.  Biggest issue is getting tube to aft corner of pan 
so get out all the oil as engine is tilted aft.

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT

 

 

 

From: Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:41 AM
To: Stus-List
Subject: Stus-List Re: Engine oil drain hose

 

I've used one of these for the last 10 years or so.  Sucks the oil up through 
the dipstick tube when the oil is still hot.

 

https://ca.binnacle.com/p3291/Pela-6000-Oil-Extractor-6-Litre/product_info.html

 

Works well, no issues.

 

Ken H.

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Stus-List Re: Engine oil drain hose

[Ken Heaton]

I've used one of these for the last 10 years or so.  Sucks the oil up
through the dipstick tube when the oil is still hot.

https://ca.binnacle.com/p3291/Pela-6000-Oil-Extractor-6-Litre/product_info.html

Works well, no issues.

Ken H.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 at 17:16, dwight veinot  wrote:

> I got the exact same engine and i use a drill pump attached to that
> flexible bottom drain to extract the used oil after it has got to operating
> temp.
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 3:46 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> wrote:
>
>> FYI,  My Universal M4-30 diesel has an oil drain hose attached to the pan
>> bottom with a brass end fitting with a threaded plug in the free end.  The
>> brass plug has a hole drilled through the square part that can be tie
>> wrapped to secure it safely.  I typically run the engine till warm and then
>> connect a hand pump to this hose and suck the oil from the sump.  It works
>> very well and I thought it was OEM.
>>
>> At home, I've added a short length of fuel rated hose to my rider mower
>> for the same convenience when draining the oil clear of the frame.  I plug
>> the end and tie wrap it to the frame.
>>
>> Chuck Scheaffer Resolute 1989 C 34R, Pasadena Md
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>
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