Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Joel Aronson]

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On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:47 PM, David Knecht  wrote:

I sold by C&C 34 a while back, and now I am in the market for a new boat.
 One of the boats I plan to look at is a C&C 99.  This list was always been
of great help, when I had my previous boat, so I am wondering if anyone has
comments on that particular vintage of C&C.  I planned to search the
archive in case this has been discussed before, but I could find no way to
do that.  Am I missing it?  Thanks- Dave

Professor David Knecht
Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
Microscopy Facility Director
U-3125
91 N. Eagleville Rd.
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
860-486-2200
860-486-4331 (fax)



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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Pat Nevitt]

I think there is someone on the list who posts occasionally that has one.
I can't remember his name.  I have a friend that owns one and really likes
his.  Do you want to race or cruise?  He mostly races his and places in the
middle of a fairly competitive PHRF fleet.  We did beat him once in my 29-2
this past frostbite series on a 20kt wind day, but he claims it was because
they turned around to pick up a hat that went overboard  (I never saw
that!).  I know of 2 for sale in the Annapolis area.  I know the owner of
one of those and he has had it for sale for a while and is motivated to let
it go.

Pat

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:47 PM, David Knecht wrote:

> I sold by C&C 34 a while back, and now I am in the market for a new boat.
>  One of the boats I plan to look at is a C&C 99.  This list was always been
> of great help, when I had my previous boat, so I am wondering if anyone has
> comments on that particular vintage of C&C.  I planned to search the
> archive in case this has been discussed before, but I could find no way to
> do that.  Am I missing it?  Thanks- Dave
>
> Professor David Knecht
> Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
> Microscopy Facility Director
> U-3125
> 91 N. Eagleville Rd.
> University of Connecticut
> Storrs, CT 06269
> 860-486-2200
> 860-486-4331 (fax)
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[David Knecht]

On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Pat Nevitt wrote:

> I think there is someone on the list who posts occasionally that has one.  I 
> can't remember his name.  I have a friend that owns one and really likes his. 
>  Do you want to race or cruise? 
Some of both, but the cruising is more weekending that longer and with just my 
wife and I.  Racing would be club for fun, not seriously campaigning.  I want a 
boat that can do both with me single-handing. 
> He mostly races his and places in the middle of a fairly competitive PHRF 
> fleet.  We did beat him once in my 29-2 this past frostbite series on a 20kt 
> wind day, but he claims it was because they turned around to pick up a hat 
> that went overboard  (I never saw that!).  I know of 2 for sale in the 
> Annapolis area.  I know the owner of one of those and he has had it for sale 
> for a while and is motivated to let it go.
> 
> Pat
> 
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:47 PM, David Knecht  wrote:
> I sold by C&C 34 a while back, and now I am in the market for a new boat.  
> One of the boats I plan to look at is a C&C 99.  This list was always been of 
> great help, when I had my previous boat, so I am wondering if anyone has 
> comments on that particular vintage of C&C.  I planned to search the archive 
> in case this has been discussed before, but I could find no way to do that.  
> Am I missing it?  Thanks- Dave
> 
> Professor David Knecht
> Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
> Microscopy Facility Director
> U-3125
> 91 N. Eagleville Rd.
> University of Connecticut
> Storrs, CT 06269
> 860-486-2200
> 860-486-4331 (fax)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
Microscopy Facility Director
U-3125
91 N. Eagleville Rd.
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
860-486-2200
860-486-4331 (fax)



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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Hoyt, Mike]

David
 
What do you wish to know about the 99?  Our frioends have a 2008 model
and I have sailed on it many many times and know the boat well.
 
Mike



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Knecht
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:47 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list
Subject: Stus-List C&C 99


I sold by C&C 34 a while back, and now I am in the market for a new
boat.  One of the boats I plan to look at is a C&C 99.  This list was
always been of great help, when I had my previous boat, so I am
wondering if anyone has comments on that particular vintage of C&C.  I
planned to search the archive in case this has been discussed before,
but I could find no way to do that.  Am I missing it?  Thanks- Dave 

Professor David Knecht
Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
Microscopy Facility Director
U-3125
91 N. Eagleville Rd.
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
860-486-2200
860-486-4331 (fax)



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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Hoyt, Mike]

David
 
The 99 has a few variations.  The most common and most recent being 5.5
ft draft carbon fibre mast. Initially the boat had a deeper draft keel
and aluminum mast.  A very very small number had the deeper keel and
carbon fibre mast and a number are the 5.5 ft keel with aluminum mast.
 
I believe the original boat was 6.4 ft aluminum mast version and then
the shallow draft model was introduced as an option.  At some point
groups of owners in the Chesapeake and another area convinced C&C to
switch to only the 5.5 ft boat for one design purposes and to deal
better with the shallow water areas where it was sailed.
 
Our friends have the 5.5 ft keel carbon mast since they bought the boat
to sail in an area with a shallow entrance to our marina.  The 6.4 ft
keel would not have worked there.  Their boat arrived with the waterline
a bit off and C&C repainted the waterline over the first off season.
The reason for this was the design of the 5.5 ft keel which moved the
center of mass aft a bit on the boat.  When racing it is very important
to get the crew weight out of the cockpit and forward esp because of
this.
 
A group of our friends race an Olson 30 which in our area for a time was
rated the same as the 99 at PHRF 99.  They also raced in Chester Race
Week against a carbon mast 6.4 ft keel version of this boat.  The Olson
is faster than the Shoal Draft 99 in almost every condition until their
is some chop and the winds are at approx 18 knots at which time the 99
is faster esp upwind.  The 6.4 ft keel is by our Olson friend's
observation a much faster boat than the SD version.  It excels on all
points of sail.  At some point in Nova Scotia it was realized that the
C&C 99 handicap was based on the original 6.4 ft keel and that when C&C
changed the specification for the standard boat the same handicap was
used for the SD version.  This was also the case in New England.  We now
have the 6.4 ft boat at 99 and the 5.5 ft version at 105 and PHRF-NE has
a similar 6 second difference.  This only became apparent when a 6.4 ft
model moved back to the area and we have both models sailing here.  I
believe the difference between the 5.5 ft and 6.4 ft boat is more like 9
sec/mile though ...
 
The interior of the C&C 99 is well appointed.  The table is an option
and hangs off the mast but is usable.  Galley seems to work out well.
The aft cabin is a bit cramped but once you wedge yourself in the bunk
is quite comfortable for two people.  Have slept there many times.  The
Vee berth would be considered your stateroom.  It is large, comfortable
(much more so than aft cabin - trust me) and has cabinetry to store
clothing etc.  Storage aboard seems adequate also and the engine seems
not to have problems.
 
I also sail a lot on a C&C 115.  It has similar cabinet drawers and
doors and when the boat is much used the latches seem to be flimsy.
Look for a boat where the owner was obsessive with maintenance and it
will be pristine and very nice inside.  Our friend's 99 is just that -
pristine.  It appears to be one year old and has great inventory of both
sails and electronics that have been regularly updated.
 
For sailing be aware that the boat has an oversized J+1 pole and
matching 200% spinnaker.  This is the class standard and in our area is
included in the boats base rating.  This means the spinnaker is very
large and can be a handful but the boat sails well with it and does not
seem to be squirrelly downwind.  With the roller furling standard on the
boat the common practice is to furl and unfurl the headsail while racing
and the cut of the headsail is not diminished by the roller furling in
size etc ...   Seems to work well
 
The wheel is a large destroyer type wheel and the boat is very
responsive to the steering.  It feels quite direct and is nicely set up.
One caution is that there seems to be some problem with the shivs with
the C&Cs.  The 115 has had the cable jump off the shivs several times
and the 99 has had this happen once.  The shivs are angled a bit but
once they are replaced the problem seems to go away.  You may wish to
check this area.  I believe with the 99 it occurred because a bolt
worked itself out over time
 
The 99 is a good boat and sails at a decent speed as a modern 33 foot
cruising boat that can be raced.  We are all very happy with how well
the 99 our friends purchased has worked out.  There also has never been
any indication of the hull cracking issue that was reported on some of
the larger C&C models ...
 
Not sure what else to add.  These are great boats!
 
Mike




From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David
Knecht
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99



On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Pat Nevitt wrote:


I think there is someone on the list who posts occasionally that
has one.  I can't remember his name.  I have a frie

Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[David Knecht]

  
> The wheel is a large destroyer type wheel and the boat is very responsive to 
> the steering.  It feels quite direct and is nicely set up.  One caution is 
> that there seems to be some problem with the shivs with the C&Cs.  The 115 
> has had the cable jump off the shivs several times and the 99 has had this 
> happen once.  The shivs are angled a bit but once they are replaced the 
> problem seems to go away.  You may wish to check this area.  I believe with 
> the 99 it occurred because a bolt worked itself out over time
>  
> The 99 is a good boat and sails at a decent speed as a modern 33 foot 
> cruising boat that can be raced.  We are all very happy with how well the 99 
> our friends purchased has worked out.  There also has never been any 
> indication of the hull cracking issue that was reported on some of the larger 
> C&C models ...
>  
> Not sure what else to add.  These are great boats!
>  
> Mike
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David 
> Knecht
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:48 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Pat Nevitt wrote:
> 
>> I think there is someone on the list who posts occasionally that has one.  I 
>> can't remember his name.  I have a friend that owns one and really likes 
>> his.  Do you want to race or cruise? 
> Some of both, but the cruising is more weekending that longer and with just 
> my wife and I.  Racing would be club for fun, not seriously campaigning.  I 
> want a boat that can do both with me single-handing. 
>> He mostly races his and places in the middle of a fairly competitive PHRF 
>> fleet.  We did beat him once in my 29-2 this past frostbite series on a 20kt 
>> wind day, but he claims it was because they turned around to pick up a hat 
>> that went overboard  (I never saw that!).  I know of 2 for sale in the 
>> Annapolis area.  I know the owner of one of those and he has had it for sale 
>> for a while and is motivated to let it go.
>> 
>> Pat
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:47 PM, David Knecht  
>> wrote:
>> I sold by C&C 34 a while back, and now I am in the market for a new boat.  
>> One of the boats I plan to look at is a C&C 99.  This list was always been 
>> of great help, when I had my previous boat, so I am wondering if anyone has 
>> comments on that particular vintage of C&C.  I planned to search the archive 
>> in case this has been discussed before, but I could find no way to do that.  
>> Am I missing it?  Thanks- Dave
>> 
>> Professor David Knecht
>> Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
>> Microscopy Facility Director
>> U-3125
>> 91 N. Eagleville Rd.
>> University of Connecticut
>> Storrs, CT 06269
>> 860-486-2200
>> 860-486-4331 (fax)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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> 
> Professor David Knecht
> Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
> Microscopy Facility Director
> U-3125
> 91 N. Eagleville Rd.
> University of Connecticut
> Storrs, CT 06269
> 860-486-2200
> 860-486-4331 (fax)
> 
> 
> 
> ___
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> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
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Professor David Knecht
Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
Microscopy Facility Director
U-3125
91 N. Eagleville Rd.
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
860-486-2200
860-486-4331 (fax)



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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Hoyt, Mike]

The pole can be used as a bowsprit if desired when using asym spinnaker.
As it is 10% longer than J when the mast track is lowered fully and pole
is attached it acts like a short sprit.  This is how my friends sail
their asym spin some times.
 
no idea about a 99 with a sprit.  teh 101 seems to be that boat and is a
really interesting looking design ...
 
Mike



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David
Knecht
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99


Hi Mike- Thanks for the extensive review.  Everything I have read and
heard about the boat makes me think that one is in my future.  It is
precisely the size and characteristics I was looking for, and it
particularly appeals to my sense of karma after my happy experience with
my previous C&C (and its owner group).  I will probably be looking for
the shoal draft as that is a compromise I am willing to make in this
area since I do not intend to seriously campaign the boat.  One thing
you did not comment on is the bowsprit.  I gather that was an option,
and one that attracted me to the boat.  I will be sailing mostly
shorthanded and so do not intend to use a full spinnaker with pole.
Having a sprit launched chute seems to be a great compromise, but I have
never sailed a boat with one so I have absolutely no personal
experience.  Can anyone comment on that?  Thanks- Dave 

On Jan 28, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:


David
 
The 99 has a few variations.  The most common and most recent
being 5.5 ft draft carbon fibre mast. Initially the boat had a deeper
draft keel and aluminum mast.  A very very small number had the deeper
keel and carbon fibre mast and a number are the 5.5 ft keel with
aluminum mast.
 
I believe the original boat was 6.4 ft aluminum mast version and
then the shallow draft model was introduced as an option.  At some point
groups of owners in the Chesapeake and another area convinced C&C to
switch to only the 5.5 ft boat for one design purposes and to deal
better with the shallow water areas where it was sailed.
 
Our friends have the 5.5 ft keel carbon mast since they bought
the boat to sail in an area with a shallow entrance to our marina.  The
6.4 ft keel would not have worked there.  Their boat arrived with the
waterline a bit off and C&C repainted the waterline over the first off
season.  The reason for this was the design of the 5.5 ft keel which
moved the center of mass aft a bit on the boat.  When racing it is very
important to get the crew weight out of the cockpit and forward esp
because of this.
 
A group of our friends race an Olson 30 which in our area for a
time was rated the same as the 99 at PHRF 99.  They also raced in
Chester Race Week against a carbon mast 6.4 ft keel version of this
boat.  The Olson is faster than the Shoal Draft 99 in almost every
condition until their is some chop and the winds are at approx 18 knots
at which time the 99 is faster esp upwind.  The 6.4 ft keel is by our
Olson friend's observation a much faster boat than the SD version.  It
excels on all points of sail.  At some point in Nova Scotia it was
realized that the C&C 99 handicap was based on the original 6.4 ft keel
and that when C&C changed the specification for the standard boat the
same handicap was used for the SD version.  This was also the case in
New England.  We now have the 6.4 ft boat at 99 and the 5.5 ft version
at 105 and PHRF-NE has a similar 6 second difference.  This only became
apparent when a 6.4 ft model moved back to the area and we have both
models sailing here.  I believe the difference between the 5.5 ft and
6.4 ft boat is more like 9 sec/mile though ...
 
The interior of the C&C 99 is well appointed.  The table is an
option and hangs off the mast but is usable.  Galley seems to work out
well.  The aft cabin is a bit cramped but once you wedge yourself in the
bunk is quite comfortable for two people.  Have slept there many times.
The Vee berth would be considered your stateroom.  It is large,
comfortable (much more so than aft cabin - trust me) and has cabinetry
to store clothing etc.  Storage aboard seems adequate also and the
engine seems not to have problems.
 
I also sail a lot on a C&C 115.  It has similar cabinet drawers
and doors and when the boat is much used the latches seem to be flimsy.
Look for a boat where the owner was obsessive with maintenance and it
will be pristine and very nice inside.  Our friend's 99 is just that -
pristine.  It appears to be one year old and has great inventory of both
sails and electronics that have been regularly updated.
 
For sailing be aware that the boat has an oversized J+1 pole and
matching 200% spinnaker.  This is the class standard and in our area is
included in the boats base rating.  This mean

Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[David Knecht]

It appears the built in sprit was an option on the 99 and at least one of the 
boats on yachtworld has that installed.  Dave

On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:

> The pole can be used as a bowsprit if desired when using asym spinnaker.  As 
> it is 10% longer than J when the mast track is lowered fully and pole is 
> attached it acts like a short sprit.  This is how my friends sail their asym 
> spin some times.
>  
> no idea about a 99 with a sprit.  teh 101 seems to be that boat and is a 
> really interesting looking design ...
>  
> Mike
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David 
> Knecht
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:15 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99
> 
> Hi Mike- Thanks for the extensive review.  Everything I have read and heard 
> about the boat makes me think that one is in my future.  It  is precisely the 
> size and characteristics I was looking for, and it particularly appeals to my 
> sense of karma after my happy experience with my previous C&C (and its owner 
> group).  I will probably be looking for the shoal draft as that is a 
> compromise I am willing to make in this area since I do not intend to 
> seriously campaign the boat.  One thing you did not comment on is the 
> bowsprit.  I gather that was an option, and one that attracted me to the 
> boat.  I will be sailing mostly shorthanded and so do not intend to use a 
> full spinnaker with pole.  Having a sprit launched chute seems to be a great 
> compromise, but I have never sailed a boat with one so I have absolutely no 
> personal experience.  Can anyone comment on that?  Thanks- Dave
> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:
> 
>> David
>>  
>> The 99 has a few variations.  The most common and most recent being 5.5 ft 
>> draft carbon fibre mast. Initially the boat had a deeper draft keel and 
>> aluminum mast.  A very very small number had the deeper keel and carbon 
>> fibre mast and a number are the 5.5 ft keel with aluminum mast.
>>  
>> I believe the original boat was 6.4 ft aluminum mast version and then the 
>> shallow draft model was introduced as an option.  At some point groups of 
>> owners in the Chesapeake and another area convinced C&C to switch to only 
>> the 5.5 ft boat for one design purposes and to deal better with the shallow 
>> water areas where it was sailed.
>>  
>> Our friends have the 5.5 ft keel carbon mast since they bought the boat to 
>> sail in an area with a shallow entrance to our marina.  The 6.4 ft keel 
>> would not have worked there.  Their boat arrived with the waterline a bit 
>> off and C&C repainted the waterline over the first off season.  The reason 
>> for this was the design of the 5.5 ft keel which moved the center of mass 
>> aft a bit on the boat.  When racing it is very important to get the crew 
>> weight out of the cockpit and forward esp because of this.
>>  
>> A group of our friends race an Olson 30 which in our area for a time was 
>> rated the same as the 99 at PHRF 99.  They also raced in Chester Race Week 
>> against a carbon mast 6.4 ft keel version of this boat.  The Olson is faster 
>> than the Shoal Draft 99 in almost every condition until their is some chop 
>> and the winds are at approx 18 knots at which time the 99 is faster esp 
>> upwind.  The 6.4 ft keel is by our Olson friend's observation a much faster 
>> boat than the SD version.  It excels on all points of sail.  At some point 
>> in Nova Scotia it was realized that the C&C 99 handicap was based on the 
>> original 6.4 ft keel and that when C&C changed the specification for the 
>> standard boat the same handicap was used for the SD version.  This was also 
>> the case in New England.  We now have the 6.4 ft boat at 99 and the 5.5 ft 
>> version at 105 and PHRF-NE has a similar 6 second difference.  This only 
>> became apparent when a 6.4 ft model moved back to the area and we have both 
>> models sailing here.  Ibelieve the difference between the 5.5 ft and 6.4 
>> ft boat is more like 9 sec/mile though ...
>>  
>> The interior of the C&C 99 is well appointed.  The table is an option and 
>> hangs off the mast but is usable.  Galley seems to work out well.  The aft 
>> cabin is a bit cramped but once you wedge yourself in the bunk is quite 
>> comfortable for two people.  Have slept there many times.  The Vee berth 
>> would be considered your stateroom.  It is large, comfortable (much more so 
>> than aft cabin - trust me) and has cabinetry to store clothing etc.  Storage 
>> aboard seems adequate also and the engine seems n

Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Gary Nylander]

I sail on a J-80 and have sailed on a Melges 24. These are a bit different than 
a heavier boat (gets into planing rather quickly), but from a crew standpoint, 
I think the sprit and asym are great. 

First, you don't have to leave the cockpit to fly it. Pull the line to get the 
pole out, then pull the foot out to the end of the pole and hoist. There is a 
risk - because the chute is low to the deck/water, you have to be careful to 
not allow the chute to get dunked - slows you down a bunch!

Jibing is simple, head the boat down, ease the sheet, and as the chute flys out 
in front of the boat, haul the other sheet in - quickly, as there is a lot of 
nylon out there. You need to get the clew around the forestay and back so you 
don't end up with an hour-glass.

Again, all of this is done without going forward.

The downside of the asym is you are always reaching and trying to go deep will 
just slow you down, so you travel more distance go get from point A to B. It is 
frustrating when racing to have a slower boat heading straight to the next mark 
while you are dancing around, going faster, but covering a lot more water. But, 
if it is blowing a bit, you get some good rides while surfing or planing, then 
you make up the extra distance real fast.

Gary
30-1 and J-80 crew.




  - Original Message - 
  From: David Knecht 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:15 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99


  Hi Mike- Thanks for the extensive review.  Everything I have read and heard 
about the boat makes me think that one is in my future.  It is precisely the 
size and characteristics I was looking for, and it particularly appeals to my 
sense of karma after my happy experience with my previous C&C (and its owner 
group).  I will probably be looking for the shoal draft as that is a compromise 
I am willing to make in this area since I do not intend to seriously campaign 
the boat.  One thing you did not comment on is the bowsprit.  I gather that was 
an option, and one that attracted me to the boat.  I will be sailing mostly 
shorthanded and so do not intend to use a full spinnaker with pole.  Having a 
sprit launched chute seems to be a great compromise, but I have never sailed a 
boat with one so I have absolutely no personal experience.  Can anyone comment 
on that?  Thanks- Dave


  On Jan 28, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:


David

The 99 has a few variations.  The most common and most recent being 5.5 ft 
draft carbon fibre mast. Initially the boat had a deeper draft keel and 
aluminum mast.  A very very small number had the deeper keel and carbon fibre 
mast and a number are the 5.5 ft keel with aluminum mast.

I believe the original boat was 6.4 ft aluminum mast version and then the 
shallow draft model was introduced as an option.  At some point groups of 
owners in the Chesapeake and another area convinced C&C to switch to only the 
5.5 ft boat for one design purposes and to deal better with the shallow water 
areas where it was sailed.

Our friends have the 5.5 ft keel carbon mast since they bought the boat to 
sail in an area with a shallow entrance to our marina.  The 6.4 ft keel would 
not have worked there.  Their boat arrived with the waterline a bit off and C&C 
repainted the waterline over the first off season.  The reason for this was the 
design of the 5.5 ft keel which moved the center of mass aft a bit on the boat. 
 When racing it is very important to get the crew weight out of the cockpit and 
forward esp because of this.

A group of our friends race an Olson 30 which in our area for a time was 
rated the same as the 99 at PHRF 99.  They also raced in Chester Race Week 
against a carbon mast 6.4 ft keel version of this boat.  The Olson is faster 
than the Shoal Draft 99 in almost every condition until their is some chop and 
the winds are at approx 18 knots at which time the 99 is faster esp upwind.  
The 6.4 ft keel is by our Olson friend's observation a much faster boat than 
the SD version.  It excels on all points of sail.  At some point in Nova Scotia 
it was realized that the C&C 99 handicap was based on the original 6.4 ft keel 
and that when C&C changed the specification for the standard boat the same 
handicap was used for the SD version.  This was also the case in New England.  
We now have the 6.4 ft boat at 99 and the 5.5 ft version at 105 and PHRF-NE has 
a similar 6 second difference.  This only became apparent when a 6.4 ft model 
moved back to the area and we have both models sailing here.  I believe the 
difference between the 5.5 ft and 6.4 ft boat is more like 9 sec/mile though ...

The interior of the C&C 99 is well appointed.  The table is an option and 
hangs off the mast but is usable.  Galley seems to work out well.  The aft 
cabin is a bit cramped but once you wedge yourself in the bunk is quite 
comfortable for two people.  Have slept there many times.  The Ve

Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Walt Dickie]

Not too many 99s where I sail in the Chicago area, and as far as I know none of 
them came with a sprit. But C&C can provide a kit to make the conversion, and 
the local dealer mentioned to me one day that at least one boat in our area has 
one installed. Basically the kit is the sprit itself and the "tunnel" that it 
runs through on the starboard side of the bow. You cut a good-size hole in the 
hull, glass in the tunnel, add the control lines and you're good to go. 
Possible, but not for the faint-hearted.

Went to Strictly Sail Chicago over the weekend, and was hoping to be able to 
see a 101. But no sign at all of C&C/Tartan. Nothing. No boats, no booth. Long 
lines to go on the Bluejacket 40 and crowds around the J/70.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:49 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99

It appears the built in sprit was an option on the 99 and at least one of the 
boats on yachtworld has that installed.  Dave

On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:


The pole can be used as a bowsprit if desired when using asym spinnaker.  As it 
is 10% longer than J when the mast track is lowered fully and pole is attached 
it acts like a short sprit.  This is how my friends sail their asym spin some 
times.

no idea about a 99 with a sprit.  teh 101 seems to be that boat and is a really 
interesting looking design ...

Mike


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99
Hi Mike- Thanks for the extensive review.  Everything I have read and heard 
about the boat makes me think that one is in my future.  It is precisely the 
size and characteristics I was looking for, and it particularly appeals to my 
sense of karma after my happy experience with my previous C&C (and its owner 
group).  I will probably be looking for the shoal draft as that is a compromise 
I am willing to make in this area since I do not intend to seriously campaign 
the boat.  One thing you did not comment on is the bowsprit.  I gather that was 
an option, and one that attracted me to the boat.  I will be sailing mostly 
shorthanded and so do not intend to use a full spinnaker with pole.  Having a 
sprit launched chute seems to be a great compromise, but I have never sailed a 
boat with one so I have absolutely no personal experience.  Can anyone comment 
on that?  Thanks- Dave

On Jan 28, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:


David

The 99 has a few variations.  The most common and most recent being 5.5 ft 
draft carbon fibre mast. Initially the boat had a deeper draft keel and 
aluminum mast.  A very very small number had the deeper keel and carbon fibre 
mast and a number are the 5.5 ft keel with aluminum mast.

I believe the original boat was 6.4 ft aluminum mast version and then the 
shallow draft model was introduced as an option.  At some point groups of 
owners in the Chesapeake and another area convinced C&C to switch to only the 
5.5 ft boat for one design purposes and to deal better with the shallow water 
areas where it was sailed.

Our friends have the 5.5 ft keel carbon mast since they bought the boat to sail 
in an area with a shallow entrance to our marina.  The 6.4 ft keel would not 
have worked there.  Their boat arrived with the waterline a bit off and C&C 
repainted the waterline over the first off season.  The reason for this was the 
design of the 5.5 ft keel which moved the center of mass aft a bit on the boat. 
 When racing it is very important to get the crew weight out of the cockpit and 
forward esp because of this.

A group of our friends race an Olson 30 which in our area for a time was rated 
the same as the 99 at PHRF 99.  They also raced in Chester Race Week against a 
carbon mast 6.4 ft keel version of this boat.  The Olson is faster than the 
Shoal Draft 99 in almost every condition until their is some chop and the winds 
are at approx 18 knots at which time the 99 is faster esp upwind.  The 6.4 ft 
keel is by our Olson friend's observation a much faster boat than the SD 
version.  It excels on all points of sail.  At some point in Nova Scotia it was 
realized that the C&C 99 handicap was based on the original 6.4 ft keel and 
that when C&C changed the specification for the standard boat the same handicap 
was used for the SD version.  This was also the case in New England.  We now 
have the 6.4 ft boat at 99 and the 5.5 ft version at 105 and PHRF-NE has a 
similar 6 second difference.  This only became apparent when a 6.4 ft model 
moved back to the area and we have both models sailing here.  I believe the 
difference between the 5.5 ft and 6.4 ft boat is more like 9 sec/mile though ...

The interior of the C&C 99 is well appointed.  The table is

Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Joel Aronson]

Tartan will be in Miami.  No idea which boats they are bringing.  They had
the 101 in Annapolis along with 2 Tartans.


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Walt Dickie  wrote:

> Not too many 99s where I sail in the Chicago area, and as far as I know
> none of them came with a sprit. But C&C can provide a kit to make the
> conversion, and the local dealer mentioned to me one day that at least one
> boat in our area has one installed. Basically the kit is the sprit itself
> and the “tunnel” that it runs through on the starboard side of the bow. You
> cut a good-size hole in the hull, glass in the tunnel, add the control
> lines and you’re good to go. Possible, but not for the faint-hearted.
>
> ** **
>
> Went to Strictly Sail Chicago over the weekend, and was hoping to be able
> to see a 101. But no sign at all of C&C/Tartan. Nothing. No boats, no
> booth. Long lines to go on the Bluejacket 40 and crowds around the J/70.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David
> Knecht
> *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 9:49 AM
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 99
>
> ** **
>
> It appears the built in sprit was an option on the 99 and at least one of
> the boats on yachtworld has that installed.  Dave
>
> ** **
>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
> The pole can be used as a bowsprit if desired when using asym spinnaker.
> As it is 10% longer than J when the mast track is lowered fully and pole is
> attached it acts like a short sprit.  This is how my friends sail their
> asym spin some times.
>
>  
>
> no idea about a 99 with a sprit.  teh 101 seems to be that boat and is a
> really interesting looking design ...
>
>  
>
> Mike
>
> ** **
> --
>
> *From:* CnC-List 
> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
> *On Behalf Of *David Knecht
> *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 10:15 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 99
>
> Hi Mike- Thanks for the extensive review.  Everything I have read and
> heard about the boat makes me think that one is in my future.  It is
> precisely the size and characteristics I was looking for, and it
> particularly appeals to my sense of karma after my happy experience with my
> previous C&C (and its owner group).  I will probably be looking for the
> shoal draft as that is a compromise I am willing to make in this area since
> I do not intend to seriously campaign the boat.  One thing you did not
> comment on is the bowsprit.  I gather that was an option, and one that
> attracted me to the boat.  I will be sailing mostly shorthanded and so do
> not intend to use a full spinnaker with pole.  Having a sprit launched
> chute seems to be a great compromise, but I have never sailed a boat with
> one so I have absolutely no personal experience.  Can anyone comment on
> that?  Thanks- Dave 
>
> ** **
>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
> David
>
>  
>
> The 99 has a few variations.  The most common and most recent being 5.5 ft
> draft carbon fibre mast. Initially the boat had a deeper draft keel and
> aluminum mast.  A very very small number had the deeper keel and carbon
> fibre mast and a number are the 5.5 ft keel with aluminum mast.
>
>  
>
> I believe the original boat was 6.4 ft aluminum mast version and then the
> shallow draft model was introduced as an option.  At some point groups of
> owners in the Chesapeake and another area convinced C&C to switch to only
> the 5.5 ft boat for one design purposes and to deal better with the shallow
> water areas where it was sailed.
>
>  
>
> Our friends have the 5.5 ft keel carbon mast since they bought the boat to
> sail in an area with a shallow entrance to our marina.  The 6.4 ft keel
> would not have worked there.  Their boat arrived with the waterline a bit
> off and C&C repainted the waterline over the first off season.  The reason
> for this was the design of the 5.5 ft keel which moved the center of mass
> aft a bit on the boat.  When racing it is very important to get the crew
> weight out of the cockpit and forward esp because of this.
>
>  
>
> A group of our friends race an Olson 30 which in our area for a time was
> rated the same as the 99 at PHRF 99.  They also raced in Chester Race Week
> against a carbon mast 6.4 ft keel version of this boat.  The Olson is
> faster than the Shoal Draft 99 in almost every condition until their is
> some chop and the winds are at approx 18 knots at which time 

Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

The best sailing version is the 6.5 Ft keel with carbon mast. The 5.5 Ft keel 
moved center of mast aft and drags transom a bit requiring careful attention to 
keeping weight forward if racing.  Very nice boats. Build quality seems very 
high.  If you buy one you will not regret it

Mike
Persistence, halifax

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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Center of mass ... (dang you Autocorerect!)

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via CnC-List
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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99

The best sailing version is the 6.5 Ft keel with carbon mast. The 5.5 Ft keel 
moved center of mast aft and drags transom a bit requiring careful attention to 
keeping weight forward if racing.  Very nice boats. Build quality seems very 
high.  If you buy one you will not regret it

Mike
Persistence, halifax

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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Paul,

I've raced on a C&C 99 several times.  The cockpit is very tight.  The jib
trimmers and the mainsheet are all concentrated in one spot.  Lots of flying
elbows and opportunities for a black eye.  The boat sails well, but I didn't
like the rubbery feel to the helm.  It didn't feel connected.  I prefer my
35 to the 99 any day.

Jake

Jake Brodersen
C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"
Hampton VA



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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Chris Duer via CnC-List]

I've raced on several 99s.  It is a bit of a ballet in the cockpit, but teams 
that stay together for a while can really get into a rhythm to where the only 
elbows that fly are toward the helmsman ;)

Agree with the sentiments about the carbon rig vs the aluminum rig.  

There's a really nice one for sale at my club.  Owner takes amazing care if it.

Chris Duer
34 #117
Morning View

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> On Aug 16, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> I've raced on a C&C 99 several times.  The cockpit is very tight.  The jib
> trimmers and the mainsheet are all concentrated in one spot.  Lots of flying
> elbows and opportunities for a black eye.  The boat sails well, but I didn't
> like the rubbery feel to the helm.  It didn't feel connected.  I prefer my
> 35 to the 99 any day.
> 
> Jake
> 
> Jake Brodersen
> C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"
> Hampton VA
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Stus-List C&C 99
> 
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> model?
> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Paul via CnC-List]

Chris

Where is your club?

Thanks

Paul

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> On Aug 16, 2016, at 8:28 PM, Chris Duer via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I've raced on several 99s.  It is a bit of a ballet in the cockpit, but teams 
> that stay together for a while can really get into a rhythm to where the only 
> elbows that fly are toward the helmsman ;)
> 
> Agree with the sentiments about the carbon rig vs the aluminum rig.  
> 
> There's a really nice one for sale at my club.  Owner takes amazing care if 
> it.
> 
> Chris Duer
> 34 #117
> Morning View
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Paul,
>> 
>> I've raced on a C&C 99 several times.  The cockpit is very tight.  The jib
>> trimmers and the mainsheet are all concentrated in one spot.  Lots of flying
>> elbows and opportunities for a black eye.  The boat sails well, but I didn't
>> like the rubbery feel to the helm.  It didn't feel connected.  I prefer my
>> 35 to the 99 any day.
>> 
>> Jake
>> 
>> Jake Brodersen
>> C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"
>> Hampton VA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Paul via
>> CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
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>> Cc: pxjohn...@verizon.net
>> Subject: Stus-List C&C 99
>> 
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>> model?
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Chris Duer via CnC-List]

I suppose that would have been helpful!

Beaufort Yacht and Sailing Club in Beaufort, SC

Here's the listing:

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2003/C%26C-99-2963292/Beaufort/SC/United-States#.V7PCK1T3bCQ



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> On Aug 16, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Paul via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Chris
> 
> Where is your club?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Paul
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 8:28 PM, Chris Duer via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've raced on several 99s.  It is a bit of a ballet in the cockpit, but 
>> teams that stay together for a while can really get into a rhythm to where 
>> the only elbows that fly are toward the helmsman ;)
>> 
>> Agree with the sentiments about the carbon rig vs the aluminum rig.  
>> 
>> There's a really nice one for sale at my club.  Owner takes amazing care if 
>> it.
>> 
>> Chris Duer
>> 34 #117
>> Morning View
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Paul,
>>> 
>>> I've raced on a C&C 99 several times.  The cockpit is very tight.  The jib
>>> trimmers and the mainsheet are all concentrated in one spot.  Lots of flying
>>> elbows and opportunities for a black eye.  The boat sails well, but I didn't
>>> like the rubbery feel to the helm.  It didn't feel connected.  I prefer my
>>> 35 to the 99 any day.
>>> 
>>> Jake
>>> 
>>> Jake Brodersen
>>> C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"
>>> Hampton VA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Paul via
>>> CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
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>>> Cc: pxjohn...@verizon.net
>>> Subject: Stus-List C&C 99
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have pros or cons that they would like to share about this
>>> model?
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Here the deep keel is 99 and the shoal draft is 105.  They sail well in all 
conditions and handle the 200% spinnaker well.  Ours here are fitted with an 
18” custom made stainless steel sprit which allows us to fly the asymmetrical 
as well.

 

Safe Sailing,

 

Rod Stright



President

C&C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

 

 

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Sent: July-23-20 1:33 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List C&C 99

 

I always thought the 99's were rated a bit fast.  In my area we had a 99 which 
rated, coincidently, 99.  We were about 12 miles down course in Touche' on a 
distance race years ago.  We were about to roll over the 99.  They owed us over 
30 seconds/mile.  And...they'd actually started 5 minutes ahead of us.  They 
saw us and "woke up".  They made some adjustments and gradually pulled away 
from us.

 

Pretty boats.  Would have been prettier behind Touche'.  :)

 

  -- 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:00 AM Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

9.9 meters or 32 feet. As  someone said, the first of the 99’s was shipped out 
to the Annapolis show with a cobbled up part of an interior (from a 110?) and 
Tim Jackett came with it to show it off. They assembled a crack crew and showed 
if off quite well (and it got a lousy PHRF rating that nobody else could quite 
live up to). That boat was Rabbit. Not the best marketing practice if you want 
to sell boat to mortal people. 

 

Gary

30-1 #593

St. Michaels MD

 

 

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Re: Stus-List C&C 99

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

The 99 has two keels and two masts.  The early ones were aluminum mast and the 
deeper (I think 6.25’ ?) keel.  This was the original design.  A second keel 
option was later introduced that was longer and 5.5’ draft.  About that time a 
carbon mast was introduced.

The fastest boats are the dk carbon mast.  The 5.5 ft keel resulted in more 
weight aft.  There is a noticeable difference in performance between the two 
keels.  In nova scotia we rate the “standard” keel (the 5.5 ft one became 
standard) 6 sec/mile slower at 105 than the DK model at 99.

C&C later offered a keel conversion kit to try to standardize the boats to the 
5.5 ft keel and many of the original boats took advantage of this.  C&C also 
dropped production of the DK version.

If you are looking for a 99 and have sufficient water depth go for the DK CF 
mast variant if you can find one.  While all the models are very pretty and 
sail well these sail the best and can perform very close to their rating of 99 
sec/mile.  If you require the shallower draft and like to race .. get as much 
weight out of the cockpit as you can.

The 99 is a great boat.  If you have one or are thinking of getting one then 
consider yourself very lucky!

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
www.hoytsailing .com

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
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Sent: July 23, 2020 1:33 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List C&C 99

I always thought the 99's were rated a bit fast.  In my area we had a 99 which 
rated, coincidently, 99.  We were about 12 miles down course in Touche' on a 
distance race years ago.  We were about to roll over the 99.  They owed us over 
30 seconds/mile.  And...they'd actually started 5 minutes ahead of us.  They 
saw us and "woke up".  They made some adjustments and gradually pulled away 
from us.

Pretty boats.  Would have been prettier behind Touche'.  :)

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:00 AM Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
9.9 meters or 32 feet. As  someone said, the first of the 99’s was shipped out 
to the Annapolis show with a cobbled up part of an interior (from a 110?) and 
Tim Jackett came with it to show it off. They assembled a crack crew and showed 
if off quite well (and it got a lousy PHRF rating that nobody else could quite 
live up to). That boat was Rabbit. Not the best marketing practice if you want 
to sell boat to mortal people.

Gary
30-1 #593
St. Michaels MD


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Re: Stus-List C&C 99 owners

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

Congrats!  Still have my 121 but a different beast.

John

> On Oct 23, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Rod Stright via CnC-List  
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> Just bought a C&C 99.  Are there any owners still on this mailing list, would 
> like to connect with you
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Thanks John did you have a C&C 99?

 

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Cc: John Pennie 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99 owners

 

Congrats!  Still have my 121 but a different beast.

 

John

 

On Oct 23, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Just bought a C&C 99.  Are there any owners still on this mailing list,
would like to connect with you

 

Regards

Rod

Halifax

 

 

 


 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 99 Class Association and Fleet

[Donald Kern via CnC-List]

Rod
I have attached an extracted list of the C&C 99s that have come up on 
the cnc-list or PHRF fleet listings, etc.  The list I have, started 
about three years ago when I was interested in C&C owners on how long 
they owned their C&Cs (Brand loyalty). It now has a little over 1350 C&C 
boats. On the extracted list, the boats following /Bear Necessity/ (line 
36) are from your site that I added to my list.

Don Kern
Fireball C&C 35 Mk2
Bristol RI

On 2/21/2020 8:45 AM, Rod Stright via CnC-List wrote:


We are in the process of revitalising the C&C 99 class and have 
developed a new Class Association and website @ 
http://cnc99class.com/#home and are trying to track down the current 
inventory and ownership of C&C 99 fleet.  If you own a C&C 99 and are 
not on our fleet list @ _http://cnc99class.com/the-fleet/ _please 
email mail me and we will get you signed up.  If you know of a C&C 99 
owner not on the list please pass on this information.


Thanks for your attention and help in rejuvenating the class.

//

/Safe Sailing,/

//

/Rod Stright/

//

/President/

/C&C 99 Class Association/

/Halifax/

/Nova Scotia/


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Re: Stus-List C&C 99 Class Association and Fleet

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Thanks Don this is excellent and I know from trying to track down, just the
C&C 99s, a lot of work.  Very much appreciated.

 

Thanks for your interest and hard work on behalf of the C&C 99 class.

 

Rod Stright



President

C&C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 

 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Donald Kern via
CnC-List
Sent: February-21-20 1:10 PM
To: Rod Stright via CnC-List 
Cc: Donald Kern 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 99 Class Association and Fleet

 

Rod
I have attached an extracted list of the C&C 99s that have come up on the
cnc-list or PHRF fleet listings, etc.  The list I have, started about three
years ago when I was interested in C&C owners on how long they owned their
C&Cs (Brand loyalty). It now has a little over 1350 C&C boats. On the
extracted list, the boats following Bear Necessity (line 36) are from your
site that I added to my list.  
Don Kern
Fireball C&C 35 Mk2
Bristol RI

On 2/21/2020 8:45 AM, Rod Stright via CnC-List wrote:

We are in the process of revitalising the C&C 99 class and have developed a
new Class Association and website @ http://cnc99class.com/#home and are
trying to track down the current inventory and ownership of C&C 99 fleet.
If you own a C&C 99 and are not on our fleet list @
<http://cnc99class.com/the-fleet/> http://cnc99class.com/the-fleet/ please
email mail me and we will get you signed up.  If you know of a C&C 99 owner
not on the list please pass on this information.

 

Thanks for your attention and help in rejuvenating the class.

 

Safe Sailing,

 

Rod Stright



President

C&C 99 Class Association

Halifax

Nova Scotia

 





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