Re: Stus-List swan

2014-07-01 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
We chartered a Swan a few years ago. The agent was giving me the tour 
lift the (beautiful teak and holly) floorboards with the special 
tooleach floorboard sits on an aluminum angle frame all welded 
together to make a grid... beautiful welds...all water lines and such are 
labeled and have valves etc. All are accessible... the plumbing and 
electrical routing is impeccable.. and so forth. They are works of 
mechanical art and for the price they should be...


Gary
(I still like my 30-1)
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From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com

To: CC List Canada cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:31 AM
Subject: Stus-List swan


This is a little off topic but somehow we can make this CC related. Why 
do Nautor Swan sailboats cost so much money?  I understand they're very 
well built boats however a 35-year-old Swan still costs over 20 times more 
than a CC of comparable size. Blisters and all!


Brent Driedger
27-5
Lake Winnipeg
( will never afford a swan)

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Re: Stus-List swan -- Canada Day

2014-07-01 Thread Russ Melody via CnC-List

Hi Brent,

Maybe 'cause the CDN has dropped compare to Euro? :)

Seriously though, Happy Anniversary Canada. Only 147 years as a nation.

This is a little late in the morning since the missus  I had a 
really nice sleep-in after working 14, twelve or more hour days on an 
annual boiler shutdown. Kinda tired, maybe go for a sail this afternoon.


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
east Vancouver island




At 09:31 PM 30/06/2014, you wrote:
This is a little off topic but somehow we can make this CC related. 
Why do Nautor Swan sailboats cost so much money?  I understand 
they're very well built boats however a 35-year-old Swan still costs 
over 20 times more than a CC of comparable size. Blisters and all!


Brent Driedger
27-5
Lake Winnipeg
( will never afford a swan)

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Re: Stus-List swan

2014-07-01 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
In 1998 when we first looked at buying Calypso the listing said Swan like 
quality at a CC price or something to that effect.  Having been recently 
crawling around in all of Calypso's deep dark recesses performing deck repair 
work I would have appreciated a higher level of attention to detail by the 
lay-up crew.

The Swan's I have sailed on had a much more complete finish inside and out 
(glass work, joinery, wiring, etc.).  You could run your hand around storage 
area and not catch some skin on a rough bit of glass.  Add that to the brand's 
reputation and air of exclusiveness the higher market pricing and resale value 
seem to hold up.  Much like a comparison between a Bentley and a Cadillac.

One dark and stormy night, off the Washington coast in more wind than was fun, 
I was reassured by the SS design and Swan build of a late 60's Swan 65 ketch.  
The 100,000 lbs. of boat felt strong and stable.  I would have been nervous on 
a lesser boat designed and built to a market and price point well below Swan, 
or for that matter below 70's CCs.  A Bendytoy 42 I delivered down the west 
coast would have in deep trouble in those seas.

Martin
Calypso
1971 CC 43
Seattle


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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brent 
Driedger via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:32 PM
To: CC List Canada
Subject: Stus-List swan

This is a little off topic but somehow we can make this CC related. Why do 
Nautor Swan sailboats cost so much money?  I understand they're very well built 
boats however a 35-year-old Swan still costs over 20 times more than a CC of 
comparable size. Blisters and all!

Brent Driedger
27-5
Lake Winnipeg
( will never afford a swan)

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