Re: [CODE4LIB] "release management"
I second the notion for Fogel's book. From: Code for Libraries [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Metcalfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:42 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] "release management" 2008/10/29 Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Can anyone reccommend any good sources on how to do 'release management' in > a small distributed open source project. Or in a small in-house not open > source project, for that matter. The key thing is not something assuming > you're in a giant company with a QA team, but instead a small project with a > a few (to dozens) of developers, no dedicated QA team, etc. > > Anyone have any good books to reccommend on this? Karl Fogel's book Producing Open Source Software is an excellent choice, though it is not solely focused on release management. http://producingoss.com/ Cheers, Randy -- Randy Metcalfe
Re: [CODE4LIB] "release management"
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:31 -0400, Joe Atzberger wrote: > I see your SVN and raise you one git. > > http://git.or.cz/ > Joe Thanks! I've been playing on my Dev Debian box at work w/o any version control, but for backups and looking fwd when we have other devs, it needed to happen. A quick read of this page: http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/gittutorial.html and I've got my first git repository! I really like it, I don't see anything in svn that I *need* that git doesn't provide, and I like the simplicity of 'saving' in git: git commit -a Thanks for the recommendation, I think I'm going to like it. P > Phil is right though, articulate version control is the only technical > way to keep diverse coders working on the same project. Git takes a > distributed approach and changes certain philosophical underpinnings > of how to manage source. You may have seen my LibLime coworker Galen > present on git at the last code4lib con. You can catch the video for > that here: > > http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=code4lib > +2008&so=1&sitesearch=#q=code4lib%202008%20Galen&emb=0&so=1 > > Personally, I haven't found any reason to go back to SVN. > > --Joe Atzberger > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Phil Cryer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:30 -0400, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > > Can anyone reccommend any good sources on how to do 'release > management' > > in a small distributed open source project. Or in a small > in-house not > > open source project, for that matter. The key thing is not > something > > assuming you're in a giant company with a QA team, but > instead a small > > project with a a few (to dozens) of developers, no dedicated > QA team, etc. > > > > Anyone have any good books to reccommend on this? > > > I would recommend you start using subversion, if you don't > want to/can't > setup your own server, there are places online you can use it > for free: > > http://code.google.com/hosting/ > http://www.assembla.com/ > http://unfuddle.com/ > > A slight learning curve, but necessary if you want to > collaborate. > > P > > > > > Jonathan > > > -- > Phil Cryer | Open Source Dev Lead | web www.mobot.org | skype > phil.cryer > -- Phil Cryer | Open Source Dev Lead | web www.mobot.org | skype phil.cryer
Re: [CODE4LIB] "release management"
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone reccommend any good sources on how to do 'release management' in > a small distributed open source project. Or in a small in-house not open > source project, for that matter. The key thing is not something assuming > you're in a giant company with a QA team, but instead a small project with a > a few (to dozens) of developers, no dedicated QA team, etc. You might want to check out: Release It!: Design and Deploy Production-Ready Software by Michael T. Nygard http://www.pragprog.com/titles/mnee/release-it //Ed
Re: [CODE4LIB] "release management"
I see your SVN and raise you one git. http://git.or.cz/ Phil is right though, articulate version control is the only technical way to keep diverse coders working on the same project. Git takes a distributed approach and changes certain philosophical underpinnings of how to manage source. You may have seen my LibLime coworker Galen present on git at the last code4lib con. You can catch the video for that here: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=code4lib+2008&so=1&sitesearch=#q=code4lib%202008%20Galen&emb=0&so=1 Personally, I haven't found any reason to go back to SVN. --Joe Atzberger On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Phil Cryer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:30 -0400, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > > Can anyone reccommend any good sources on how to do 'release management' > > in a small distributed open source project. Or in a small in-house not > > open source project, for that matter. The key thing is not something > > assuming you're in a giant company with a QA team, but instead a small > > project with a a few (to dozens) of developers, no dedicated QA team, > etc. > > > > Anyone have any good books to reccommend on this? > > I would recommend you start using subversion, if you don't want to/can't > setup your own server, there are places online you can use it for free: > > http://code.google.com/hosting/ > http://www.assembla.com/ > http://unfuddle.com/ > > A slight learning curve, but necessary if you want to collaborate. > > P > > > > > Jonathan > > > -- > Phil Cryer | Open Source Dev Lead | web www.mobot.org | skype phil.cryer >
Re: [CODE4LIB] "release management"
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:30 -0400, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > Can anyone reccommend any good sources on how to do 'release management' > in a small distributed open source project. Or in a small in-house not > open source project, for that matter. The key thing is not something > assuming you're in a giant company with a QA team, but instead a small > project with a a few (to dozens) of developers, no dedicated QA team, etc. > > Anyone have any good books to reccommend on this? I would recommend you start using subversion, if you don't want to/can't setup your own server, there are places online you can use it for free: http://code.google.com/hosting/ http://www.assembla.com/ http://unfuddle.com/ A slight learning curve, but necessary if you want to collaborate. P > > Jonathan > -- Phil Cryer | Open Source Dev Lead | web www.mobot.org | skype phil.cryer
Re: [CODE4LIB] "release management"
2008/10/29 Jonathan Rochkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Can anyone reccommend any good sources on how to do 'release management' in > a small distributed open source project. Or in a small in-house not open > source project, for that matter. The key thing is not something assuming > you're in a giant company with a QA team, but instead a small project with a > a few (to dozens) of developers, no dedicated QA team, etc. > > Anyone have any good books to reccommend on this? Karl Fogel's book Producing Open Source Software is an excellent choice, though it is not solely focused on release management. http://producingoss.com/ Cheers, Randy -- Randy Metcalfe
[CODE4LIB] "release management"
Can anyone reccommend any good sources on how to do 'release management' in a small distributed open source project. Or in a small in-house not open source project, for that matter. The key thing is not something assuming you're in a giant company with a QA team, but instead a small project with a a few (to dozens) of developers, no dedicated QA team, etc. Anyone have any good books to reccommend on this? Jonathan -- Jonathan Rochkind Digital Services Software Engineer The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu
