FOSDEM 2011

2011-02-06 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
Hi list,

I just returned from FOSDEM 2011. The GTA04 team had a seat available at the 
boot, so I spend most of my time showing the semi-/demi-populated GTA04-boards 
to the masses, explaining the various uses of the Navigation board, introducing 
even more people to the Openmoko-concept or just refreshing the collective 
memories (oh, is that project still alive? Great!). 

Asthro has been repairing/bug fixing some units, including two of mine, thanks 
a lot again! The openembedded guys and Tux Brains were squeezed in between the 
Openmoko/GTA04 samples and the "phone doctor", and came up with the suggestion 
on the mailinglist earlier: lets team up with neighbouring (embedded) projects 
next year and get a room. 

Well, looking back to a great weekend. Nice to see some of you in person!

Best regards,

Boudewijn


  

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Re: FOSDEM 2011 Visitor's Guide

2010-12-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra

Em 15-12-2010 10:39, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller escreveu:

Is it possible that just 3 "Free Runner's" so far have plans to attend FOSDEM?

On FOSDEM 2010 I did count at least 70 people crowding
the (guest-) devroom.

So what are your plans?

Nikolaus



I'd love to go, but as a 4 month old father who'll be at home for 
paternity leave by the time FOSDEM plays out, I would need to have very 
good (and virtually free) conditions guaranteed to even think of going

:|

Otherwise, it's a no go for me.

Rui

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Re: FOSDEM 2011 Visitor's Guide

2010-12-15 Thread Atilla Filiz
I cannot give any talks but planning to attend to FOSDEM, so count at least
4 Freerunners.

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <
h...@goldelico.com> wrote:

>
> Am 15.12.2010 um 11:38 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
>
> > Is it possible that just 3 "Free Runner's" so far have plans to attend
> FOSDEM?
> >
> > On FOSDEM 2010 I did count at least 70 people crowding
> > the (guest-) devroom.
> >
> > So what are your plans?
> >
> > Nikolaus
> >
> >
> > Am 10.12.2010 um 18:01 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> >
> >> Ok,
> >> let me add a little more flesh to this thread.
> >>
> >> 1. FOSDEM takes place 5th/6th. of February 2011 in Brussels
> >>
> >> 2. all important Free and Open Source projects are there
> >>
> >> 3. There will be Main Track talks, Devrooms, Lightning talks and Stands
> >>* Embedded Devroom
> >>* Telephony Devroom
> >>* ...
> >>
> >> 4. I expect that several projects or individuals with less or more
> relation to
> >>   Openmoko will present something
> >>
> >> So the idea proposed by David is that we collect every and all
> >> topics and activities related to Openmoko Hardware (Freerunner, GTA04,
> ...)
> >> and Software (Android, SHR, QtMoko, Debian, ...) on a single location.
> >>
> >> So let's show the world that we still believe that and why we need more
> >> freedom for phones than the iPhone or devices with preinstalled Android
> >> give us.
> >>
> >> And what we are doing for this target.
> >>
> >> So, please, consider submitting a Lightning talk or a talk for one
> >> of the Devrooms.
> >>
> >>
> >> -- hns
> >>
> >> Am 09.12.2010 um 18:02 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Am 31.10.2010 um 12:48 schrieb David Lanzendörfer:
> >>>
> > What do you think?
>  A bit guerilla... But seems to be the only way.
>  So lets do a presentation visitation guidline for OM-interested
> people.
> >>>
> >>> So here is a Wiki page. Now let's fill it with more information:
> >>>
> >>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Fosdem_2011
> >>>
> >>> Nikolaus
> >>
> >
>
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Re: FOSDEM 2011 Visitor's Guide

2010-12-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 15.12.2010 um 11:38 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:

> Is it possible that just 3 "Free Runner's" so far have plans to attend FOSDEM?
> 
> On FOSDEM 2010 I did count at least 70 people crowding
> the (guest-) devroom.
> 
> So what are your plans?
> 
> Nikolaus
> 
> 
> Am 10.12.2010 um 18:01 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> 
>> Ok,
>> let me add a little more flesh to this thread.
>> 
>> 1. FOSDEM takes place 5th/6th. of February 2011 in Brussels
>> 
>> 2. all important Free and Open Source projects are there
>> 
>> 3. There will be Main Track talks, Devrooms, Lightning talks and Stands
>>* Embedded Devroom
>>* Telephony Devroom
>>* ...
>> 
>> 4. I expect that several projects or individuals with less or more relation 
>> to
>>   Openmoko will present something
>> 
>> So the idea proposed by David is that we collect every and all
>> topics and activities related to Openmoko Hardware (Freerunner, GTA04, ...)
>> and Software (Android, SHR, QtMoko, Debian, ...) on a single location.
>> 
>> So let's show the world that we still believe that and why we need more
>> freedom for phones than the iPhone or devices with preinstalled Android
>> give us.
>> 
>> And what we are doing for this target.
>> 
>> So, please, consider submitting a Lightning talk or a talk for one
>> of the Devrooms.
>> 
>> 
>> -- hns
>> 
>> Am 09.12.2010 um 18:02 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 31.10.2010 um 12:48 schrieb David Lanzendörfer:
>>> 
> What do you think?
 A bit guerilla... But seems to be the only way.
 So lets do a presentation visitation guidline for OM-interested people.
>>> 
>>> So here is a Wiki page. Now let's fill it with more information:
>>> 
>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Fosdem_2011
>>> 
>>> Nikolaus
>> 
> 


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Re: [gta04-devel] Fwd: FOSDEM 2011 Devroom on SHR/FSO declined

2010-12-09 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 31.10.2010 um 12:48 schrieb David Lanzendörfer:

>> What do you think?
> A bit guerilla... But seems to be the only way.
> So lets do a presentation visitation guidline for OM-interested people.

So here is a Wiki page. Now let's fill it with more information:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Fosdem_2011

Nikolaus
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Re: [gta04-devel] Fwd: FOSDEM 2011 Devroom on SHR/FSO declined

2010-10-31 Thread Serdar Dere
Hi there, I got this eMail.

I will try to get more information to get a few hours of time for us.

Greetings Serdar

Dear Serdar Dere,

Unfortunately your devroom request for FOSDEM 2011 was declined.
You might have discovered this indirectly already, we are very sorry for 
that. Something went wrong in the sending of the decline-mails, we did 
not wish for this to happen in this way.

To clarify, your request was perfectly valid, but we had to choose. 
Unfortunately we do not have a sufficient number of rooms to our 
disposal to cover all requests.

Nevertheless, there are other ways to participate in FOSDEM too. A call 
for participation will be announced around next week on our website, 
with opportunities to:
- have a stand at FOSDEM,
- hold a FOSDEM lightningtalk in one of the biggest rooms,
- speak in one of the other devrooms.

More specifically, like previous years there will be an 'embedded' 
devroom for all software on embedded and mobile devices.
The contact person is Philippe De Swert , 
contact him if you wish to participate in this devroom.


On behalf of the FOSDEM devroom team,
Tias


Am 31.10.10 11:49, schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer:
> Am Sonntag, den 31.10.2010, 10:48 +0100 schrieb David Lanzendörfer:
>> Seems as we lost our devroom after all.
> Not surprising. That we got it last year was an exception "thanks" to
> Xorg not being able to fill in their slot. Unfortunately FOSDEM
> organizers fail to realize the importance of mobile technologies, hence
> desktop stuff is still set and obviously if you had a room for 'n'
> years, you will have it every year. *sigh*
>
>> Sadly our project is still to small to get a room or so.
>> Dunno.
>> Mickey? Nikolaus? Do you wanna hold your presentation after all?
> Not me. A lightning talk about the state of FSO on foreign hardware
> makes no sense to me and the program of the embedded room seems to be
> fixed to buildsystems, C libraries, and kernel tweakings for years now.
>
> :M:
>
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Re: [gta04-devel] Fwd: FOSDEM 2011 Devroom on SHR/FSO declined

2010-10-31 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
  Em 31-10-2010 11:23, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller escreveu:
>> Not me. A lightning talk about the state of FSO on foreign hardware
>> makes no sense to me and the program of the embedded room seems to be
>> fixed to buildsystems, C libraries, and kernel tweakings for years now.
> Yes, that is also my impression.
>
> What we can do is to organize our own "virtual devroom". Idea:
>
> * we open a page fosdem2011 on wiki.openmoko.org
> * everyone tries to get a presentation into all relevant devrooms
> -- Mickey @ Telephony
> -- Nikolaus @ Embedded or Lightning
> -- Serdar @ Distribution miniconf
> -- SHR @ Distribution miniconf
> -- etc.
> * on the wiki page we collect the time, location, title etc. to
> provide our own "Openmoko" view into the FOSDEM database...
>
> What do you think?

And have the meetings at nice bars in Brussels center ;)

Rui

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Re: [gta04-devel] Fwd: FOSDEM 2011 Devroom on SHR/FSO declined

2010-10-31 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
--- On Sun, 10/31/10, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  
> Am Sonntag, den 31.10.2010, 10:48 +0100 schrieb David Lanzendörfer:
> > Seems as we lost our devroom after all.
> 
> Not surprising. That we got it last year was an exception
> "thanks" to
> Xorg not being able to fill in their slot. Unfortunately
> FOSDEM
> organizers fail to realize the importance of mobile
> technologies, 
Such a pity. I enjoyed the presentations as well as the audience last year 
(wow, are ALL those people fiddling with my phone as well :-) )

> > Sadly our project is still to small to get a room or
> so.
> > Dunno.
> > Mickey? Nikolaus? Do you wanna hold your presentation
> after all?
Last FOSDEM was my first, making me not too familiar with the organisation of 
the event. I did notice that though "we" occupied a couple of buildings, others 
were not in use. Would it be an option to organize a shadow-event nearby? Is 
one of us living near there? Perhaps the Brussel Hackerspace is willing to 
provide room outside FOSDEM-hours? It shouldn't be too far from the main FOSDEM 
event, so there's at least a remote chance of pulling some not-OM-visitors to 
the "event". If there's interest in organizing something like that, I volunteer 
to make phonecalls or send mails after receiving some pointers where to look 
for room.

> (...) the program of the embedded room
> seems to be
> fixed to buildsystems, C libraries, and kernel tweakings
> for years now.
Well, it's FOS-, not FOHWDEM. I hope it will shift towards open hardware more 
and more (there were the RepRap, Arduino and Beagleboard besides OM, perhaps 
others I didn't notice)

Boudewijn



  

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Re: [gta04-devel] Fwd: FOSDEM 2011 Devroom on SHR/FSO declined

2010-10-31 Thread David Lanzendörfer
>What do you think?
A bit guerilla... But seems to be the only way.
So lets do a presentation visitation guidline for OM-interested people.

best regards
leviathan


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Re: [gta04-devel] Fwd: FOSDEM 2011 Devroom on SHR/FSO declined

2010-10-31 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 31.10.2010 um 11:49 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer:

> Am Sonntag, den 31.10.2010, 10:48 +0100 schrieb David Lanzendörfer:
>> Seems as we lost our devroom after all.

Bad news :(

> Not surprising. That we got it last year was an exception "thanks" to
> Xorg not being able to fill in their slot. Unfortunately FOSDEM
> organizers fail to realize the importance of mobile technologies, hence
> desktop stuff is still set and obviously if you had a room for 'n'
> years, you will have it every year. *sigh*

Yes, they have a different view on all the projects. As far as
I understand there aren't any hardware-centerted devrooms.

>> Sadly our project is still to small to get a room or so.

This may be the main question for the FOSDEM organizers - what exactly is our 
project.
For them it may appear to be something fragmented between Distribution, 
Telephony, Embedded.

For all those components they have separate Devrooms.

>> Dunno.
>> Mickey? Nikolaus? Do you wanna hold your presentation after all?
> 
> Not me. A lightning talk about the state of FSO on foreign hardware
> makes no sense to me and the program of the embedded room seems to be
> fixed to buildsystems, C libraries, and kernel tweakings for years now.

Yes, that is also my impression.

What we can do is to organize our own "virtual devroom". Idea:

* we open a page fosdem2011 on wiki.openmoko.org
* everyone tries to get a presentation into all relevant devrooms
-- Mickey @ Telephony
-- Nikolaus @ Embedded or Lightning
-- Serdar @ Distribution miniconf
-- SHR @ Distribution miniconf
-- etc.
* on the wiki page we collect the time, location, title etc. to 
provide our own "Openmoko" view into the FOSDEM database...

What do you think?

Nikolaus
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Re: [gta04-devel] Fwd: FOSDEM 2011 Devroom on SHR/FSO declined

2010-10-31 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sonntag, den 31.10.2010, 10:48 +0100 schrieb David Lanzendörfer:
> Seems as we lost our devroom after all.

Not surprising. That we got it last year was an exception "thanks" to
Xorg not being able to fill in their slot. Unfortunately FOSDEM
organizers fail to realize the importance of mobile technologies, hence
desktop stuff is still set and obviously if you had a room for 'n'
years, you will have it every year. *sigh*

> Sadly our project is still to small to get a room or so.
> Dunno.
> Mickey? Nikolaus? Do you wanna hold your presentation after all?

Not me. A lightning talk about the state of FSO on foreign hardware
makes no sense to me and the program of the embedded room seems to be
fixed to buildsystems, C libraries, and kernel tweakings for years now.

:M:



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Fwd: FOSDEM 2011 Devroom on SHR/FSO declined

2010-10-31 Thread David Lanzendörfer
Seems as we lost our devroom after all.
Sadly our project is still to small to get a room or so.
Dunno.
Mickey? Nikolaus? Do you wanna hold your presentation after all?
You might get a presentation in one of the biggest rooms.
Perhaps you can motivate more devs to help us getting
OpenMoko rule the market again.
And you could also make some advertisement for the presale :-)
(I can't come, because of examina)

best regards
leviathan
--- Begin Message ---

Dear David Lanzendoerfer,

Unfortunately your devroom request for FOSDEM 2011 was declined.
You might have discovered this indirectly already, we are very sorry for 
that. Something went wrong in the sending of the decline-mails, we did 
not wish for this to happen in this way.


To clarify, your request was perfectly valid, but we had to choose. 
Unfortunately we do not have a sufficient number of rooms to our 
disposal to cover all requests.


Nevertheless, there are other ways to participate in FOSDEM too. A call 
for participation will be announced around next week, with opportunities to:

- have a stand at FOSDEM,
- hold a FOSDEM lightningtalk in one of the biggest rooms,
- speak in one of the other devrooms.

More specifically, like previous years there will be an 'embedded' 
devroom for all software on embedded and mobile devices.
The contact person is Philippe De Swert , 
contact him if you wish to participate in this devroom.



On behalf of the FOSDEM devroom team,
Tias
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Re: FOSDEM 2011

2010-09-04 Thread Serdar Dere

 Hi guys,

I organized this year a devroom for our Android on Freerunner Project 
and got one for 3h.
But 3h was too much for our project, that's why I forced mickey and 
other to make some paper to present.
I can take care next year too because I know the guys and talked much 
with them.

But if David is eager to do it, he is welcomed :)

Greetings Serdar

Am 02.09.10 23:21, schrieb David Lanzendörfer:

Hi folks,

Hi mickey


FOSDEM just released the call for dev-rooms.
(http://www.fosdem.org/2011/)

Ok. Let us have one ^_^


After our lucky mini-appereance which was
quite well received, I wonder whether anyone
would be interested in organizing
a combined SHR/FSO/  devroom for next year.

Jup.


I will not have enough time to take the wheel
on this, however I volunteer to do something
(presentation, workshop, whatever) should
we get the opportunity to have such a room.

Yes. Ok. I could take care of that.
Would just be cool to have you have a presentation.


Cheers,
:M:

dito
leviathan ;-D


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Re: FOSDEM 2011

2010-09-02 Thread David Lanzendörfer
>Hi folks,
Hi mickey

>FOSDEM just released the call for dev-rooms.
>(http://www.fosdem.org/2011/)
Ok. Let us have one ^_^

>After our lucky mini-appereance which was
>quite well received, I wonder whether anyone
>would be interested in organizing
>a combined SHR/FSO/ devroom for next year.
Jup.

>I will not have enough time to take the wheel
>on this, however I volunteer to do something
>(presentation, workshop, whatever) should
>we get the opportunity to have such a room.
Yes. Ok. I could take care of that.
Would just be cool to have you have a presentation.

>Cheers,
>:M:
dito
leviathan ;-D


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Re: FOSDEM 2011

2010-09-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 01.09.2010 um 18:51 schrieb Simon Busch:

> On 01.09.2010 14:09, Dr. Michael Lauer wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> FOSDEM just released the call for dev-rooms.
>> (http://www.fosdem.org/2011/)
>> 
>> After our lucky mini-appereance which was
>> quite well received, I wonder whether anyone
>> would be interested in organizing
>> a combined SHR/FSO/  devroom for next year.
>> 
>> I will not have enough time to take the wheel
>> on this, however I volunteer to do something
>> (presentation, workshop, whatever) should
>> we get the opportunity to have such a room.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> :M:
> 
> I would like to attend a dev room on FOSDEM too, if I have the time in 
> early februrary to come to belgium. So if anyone is interested in 
> organizing a dev room, please do so!

The devroom last (ahem, this) year was really successful. I had made
some photos:

http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?p=16881#p16881

So I would also appreciate if someone could organize that.

Nikolaus

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Re: FOSDEM 2011

2010-09-01 Thread Simon Busch
On 01.09.2010 14:09, Dr. Michael Lauer wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> FOSDEM just released the call for dev-rooms.
> (http://www.fosdem.org/2011/)
>
> After our lucky mini-appereance which was
> quite well received, I wonder whether anyone
> would be interested in organizing
> a combined SHR/FSO/  devroom for next year.
>
> I will not have enough time to take the wheel
> on this, however I volunteer to do something
> (presentation, workshop, whatever) should
> we get the opportunity to have such a room.
>
> Cheers,
>
> :M:

I would like to attend a dev room on FOSDEM too, if I have the time in 
early februrary to come to belgium. So if anyone is interested in 
organizing a dev room, please do so!

regards,
morphis


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FOSDEM 2011

2010-09-01 Thread Dr. Michael Lauer
Hi folks,

FOSDEM just released the call for dev-rooms.
(http://www.fosdem.org/2011/)

After our lucky mini-appereance which was
quite well received, I wonder whether anyone
would be interested in organizing
a combined SHR/FSO/ devroom for next year.

I will not have enough time to take the wheel
on this, however I volunteer to do something
(presentation, workshop, whatever) should
we get the opportunity to have such a room.

Cheers,

:M:


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