Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero
That looks very interesting. Looking forward to some implementation of this filtering down to the common ML libs. On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Stefan Kaitschick wrote: > Is this something LeelaZero might consider using? > https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.05407.pdf > The last diagram is looking very impressive. It's not a game playing > domain, but still. > Maybe this averaging technique could help reduce the gap for a > (relatively) low resource project like Leela. > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:28 AM, uurtamo . wrote: > >> 4dan? >> >> On Jan 9, 2018 3:26 PM, "mic" wrote: >> >>> Thank you very much. >>> >>> It will play on DGS as LeelaZero19 (without GPU support). I will start >>> this night with an unrated test game against FuegoBot, one minute thinking >>> time each. Then I will give it a rank, so it can get stronger by the time. >>> >>> Leela 0.11.0 (on DGS as LeelaBot19) has meanwhile reached a weak 4 dan >>> rank, also without GPU support. >>> >>> -Michael. >>> >>> --- >>> Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> ___ >>> Computer-go mailing list >>> Computer-go@computer-go.org >>> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> >> >> ___ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero
Is this something LeelaZero might consider using? https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.05407.pdf The last diagram is looking very impressive. It's not a game playing domain, but still. Maybe this averaging technique could help reduce the gap for a (relatively) low resource project like Leela. On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:28 AM, uurtamo . wrote: > 4dan? > > On Jan 9, 2018 3:26 PM, "mic" wrote: > >> Thank you very much. >> >> It will play on DGS as LeelaZero19 (without GPU support). I will start >> this night with an unrated test game against FuegoBot, one minute thinking >> time each. Then I will give it a rank, so it can get stronger by the time. >> >> Leela 0.11.0 (on DGS as LeelaBot19) has meanwhile reached a weak 4 dan >> rank, also without GPU support. >> >> -Michael. >> >> --- >> Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> ___ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero
4dan? On Jan 9, 2018 3:26 PM, "mic" wrote: > Thank you very much. > > It will play on DGS as LeelaZero19 (without GPU support). I will start > this night with an unrated test game against FuegoBot, one minute thinking > time each. Then I will give it a rank, so it can get stronger by the time. > > Leela 0.11.0 (on DGS as LeelaBot19) has meanwhile reached a weak 4 dan > rank, also without GPU support. > > -Michael. > > --- > Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero
Thank you very much. It will play on DGS as LeelaZero19 (without GPU support). I will start this night with an unrated test game against FuegoBot, one minute thinking time each. Then I will give it a rank, so it can get stronger by the time. Leela 0.11.0 (on DGS as LeelaBot19) has meanwhile reached a weak 4 dan rank, also without GPU support. -Michael. --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero
On 30/12/2017 10:31, mic wrote: > I would like to have a non-GPU version of the WINDOWS-program of LeelaZ > to be able to run it on my good old machine. > -Michael. This is now available: https://github.com/gcp/leela-zero/releases/tag/v0.10 But note that playing strength and performance are very closely coupled to your system performance. Lacking a GPU will make the program slower and hence weaker. -- GCP ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero
I would like to have a non-GPU version of the WINDOWS-program of LeelaZ to be able to run it on my good old machine. -Michael. --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero
Seems suprisingly strong. Given that no super vcluster availab,´le for trainning. Have at least on accoutn rated would be nice since in unrated games people experiment quite a lot at cost of playing well. 2017-12-29 22:02 GMT+02:00 Brian Sheppard via Computer-go < computer-go@computer-go.org>: > Seems like extraordinarily fast progress. Great to hear that. > > -Original Message- > From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf > Of "Ingo Althöfer" > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 12:30 PM > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Subject: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero > > Hello in the round, > > I am not sure how narrowly people from the list are following the progress > of Gian Carlo Pascutto's project Zero Leela. Therefore, here are some > impressions. > > The project site is: > http://zero.sjeng.org/ > > Shortly before Christmas some guys in the German Go mailing list claimed > that LeelaZero had not yet reached a 25-kyu rank. To get an own impression > I (with an inactive rating of 18-kyu) went on KGS and played a free game > against LeelaZSlow. This version takes exactly 28 seconds per move, even in > trivial situations. Long paragraph, short outcome: I lost clearly. You can > download the sgf from here: > http://files.gokgs.com/games/2017/12/21/GoIngo-LeelaZSlow.sgf > > In the meantime the KGS versions of Leela have made considerable progress. > For instance, yesterday and today two 1-dans and a 3-dan were beaten in > single games. > However, Leela also has "strange" weaknesses. The most serious one > concerns hopeless ladders. The only way out for Leela seems to be to play > early tengen-like moves (as possible ladder breakers). > At least three versions of LeelaZero are active: > LeelaZFast, LeelaZSlow, and LeelZeroT. > > As soon as a new "best" LeelaZero version has emerged in selfplay runs (of > length 400 games) it substitutes the previous version for play on KGS. > Currently this happens 1 or 2 times per day. > > Ingo. > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero
Seems like extraordinarily fast progress. Great to hear that. -Original Message- From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of "Ingo Althöfer" Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 12:30 PM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero Hello in the round, I am not sure how narrowly people from the list are following the progress of Gian Carlo Pascutto's project Zero Leela. Therefore, here are some impressions. The project site is: http://zero.sjeng.org/ Shortly before Christmas some guys in the German Go mailing list claimed that LeelaZero had not yet reached a 25-kyu rank. To get an own impression I (with an inactive rating of 18-kyu) went on KGS and played a free game against LeelaZSlow. This version takes exactly 28 seconds per move, even in trivial situations. Long paragraph, short outcome: I lost clearly. You can download the sgf from here: http://files.gokgs.com/games/2017/12/21/GoIngo-LeelaZSlow.sgf In the meantime the KGS versions of Leela have made considerable progress. For instance, yesterday and today two 1-dans and a 3-dan were beaten in single games. However, Leela also has "strange" weaknesses. The most serious one concerns hopeless ladders. The only way out for Leela seems to be to play early tengen-like moves (as possible ladder breakers). At least three versions of LeelaZero are active: LeelaZFast, LeelaZSlow, and LeelZeroT. As soon as a new "best" LeelaZero version has emerged in selfplay runs (of length 400 games) it substitutes the previous version for play on KGS. Currently this happens 1 or 2 times per day. Ingo. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
[Computer-go] Project Leela Zero
Hello in the round, I am not sure how narrowly people from the list are following the progress of Gian Carlo Pascutto's project Zero Leela. Therefore, here are some impressions. The project site is: http://zero.sjeng.org/ Shortly before Christmas some guys in the German Go mailing list claimed that LeelaZero had not yet reached a 25-kyu rank. To get an own impression I (with an inactive rating of 18-kyu) went on KGS and played a free game against LeelaZSlow. This version takes exactly 28 seconds per move, even in trivial situations. Long paragraph, short outcome: I lost clearly. You can download the sgf from here: http://files.gokgs.com/games/2017/12/21/GoIngo-LeelaZSlow.sgf In the meantime the KGS versions of Leela have made considerable progress. For instance, yesterday and today two 1-dans and a 3-dan were beaten in single games. However, Leela also has "strange" weaknesses. The most serious one concerns hopeless ladders. The only way out for Leela seems to be to play early tengen-like moves (as possible ladder breakers). At least three versions of LeelaZero are active: LeelaZFast, LeelaZSlow, and LeelZeroT. As soon as a new "best" LeelaZero version has emerged in selfplay runs (of length 400 games) it substitutes the previous version for play on KGS. Currently this happens 1 or 2 times per day. Ingo. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go