[CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

OK to all you gadget gurus out there.

My daughter is getting married this fall.

My in-laws (Most of my wife's family actually) live in the northern 
reaches of Ontario and are showing a reluctance to traveling this far 
south.  They wondered if I their techhy son-in-law could set up a 
laptop with a web cam and broadcast the wedding via the Internet so 
they could watch it live instead of being there.  (My preference is 
them be there)


I remember someone like Linksysy at one time had these and marketed 
them, but I do not know if they are still out there and I have no 
idea how well these work.


To me it seems like a whole lot of work just to please some people 
who do not like to travel. (long history here)


Anyone have any ideas?

How much am I looking at to get this setup and make it work?

The church has high speed Internet so that will not be a problem.

Stewart



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Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Matthew Taylor
I don't think you will find a web cam that will give you a decent wide  
angle shot in the lighting you are likely to have.  They really are  
designed for more intimate purposes - web chats, etc., not live event  
feeds.


Matthew

On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:


OK to all you gadget gurus out there.

My daughter is getting married this fall.

My in-laws (Most of my wife's family actually) live in the northern  
reaches of Ontario and are showing a reluctance to traveling this  
far south.  They wondered if I their techhy son-in-law could set up  
a laptop with a web cam and broadcast the wedding via the Internet  
so they could watch it live instead of being there.  (My preference  
is them be there)


I remember someone like Linksysy at one time had these and marketed  
them, but I do not know if they are still out there and I have no  
idea how well these work.


To me it seems like a whole lot of work just to please some people  
who do not like to travel. (long history here)


Anyone have any ideas?

How much am I looking at to get this setup and make it work?

The church has high speed Internet so that will not be a problem.

Stewart



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Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread db
For better picture quality and light sensitivity, for the web cam you 
could substitute a digital or analog video camera, possibly a video 
capture card or other interface device and ICQ or Netmeeting etc but, it 
would still not be a full screen image and it would probably be 
realistically too complex for the average joe to set up on both ends.  
It would take some time to work out the wrinkles and would have to be 
done in advance or you would end up with nada...


Probably wiser to stick with the best web cam you can get if you do it 
all all...
A while back someone recommended one model as being particularly good 
but I can't remember the name of it...


db

Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

That I am very aware of.

However the church will be well lit, not dark.

Stewart


At 03:31 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote:

I don't think you will find a web cam that will give you a decent wide
angle shot in the lighting you are likely to have.  They really are
designed for more intimate purposes - web chats, etc., not live event
feeds.

Matthew

On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:


OK to all you gadget gurus out there.

My daughter is getting married this fall.

My in-laws (Most of my wife's family actually) live in the northern
reaches of Ontario and are showing a reluctance to traveling this
far south.  They wondered if I their techhy son-in-law could set up
a laptop with a web cam and broadcast the wedding via the Internet
so they could watch it live instead of being there.  (My preference
is them be there)

I remember someone like Linksysy at one time had these and marketed
them, but I do not know if they are still out there and I have no
idea how well these work.

To me it seems like a whole lot of work just to please some people
who do not like to travel. (long history here)

Anyone have any ideas?

How much am I looking at to get this setup and make it work?

The church has high speed Internet so that will not be a problem.

Stewart



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Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

That sounds almost like what I will need.

I am aware of the limitations this will be an almost type of 
setup.  There is no way with my limited budget etc. to be able to set 
up and broadcast a movie quality cam of the event.  (No matter what 
they show in the movies)


I plan on recording it and making a DVD of it, but they want to be 
able to watch it as it happens.


This is a poor excuse for not being there honestly.

thanks for the advice.

Stewart


At 05:13 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote:
For better picture quality and light sensitivity, for the web cam 
you could substitute a digital or analog video camera, possibly a 
video capture card or other interface device and ICQ or Netmeeting 
etc but, it would still not be a full screen image and it would 
probably be realistically too complex for the average joe to set up 
on both ends.
It would take some time to work out the wrinkles and would have to 
be done in advance or you would end up with nada...


Probably wiser to stick with the best web cam you can get if you do 
it all all...
A while back someone recommended one model as being particularly 
good but I can't remember the name of it...


db


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[CGUYS] Sun Buys MySQL

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
$1,000,000,000

Who says you can't make money with open source software?

Any comments on the future of a very critical piece of software?



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Re: [CGUYS] What to charge for contract to develop web content?

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
You mean that all of the sudden in Maryland there is now a 6% tax on
computer consulting earnings?  How, btw, is this even considered a sales
tax?

That is not how a sales tax works. You just add 6% at the bottom of the 
bill and collect it. From time to time you send the money over to the 
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Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread db
An interesting project and capability though.  Companies do it all the 
time with expensive specialized equipment... I'd like to have that 
capability using lesser tech myself .

I'll be curious to know if you work out something...

db

Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

That sounds almost like what I will need.

I am aware of the limitations this will be an almost type of setup.  
There is no way with my limited budget etc. to be able to set up and 
broadcast a movie quality cam of the event.  (No matter what they show 
in the movies)


I plan on recording it and making a DVD of it, but they want to be 
able to watch it as it happens.


This is a poor excuse for not being there honestly.

thanks for the advice.

Stewart


At 05:13 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote:
For better picture quality and light sensitivity, for the web cam you 
could substitute a digital or analog video camera, possibly a video 
capture card or other interface device and ICQ or Netmeeting etc but, 
it would still not be a full screen image and it would probably be 
realistically too complex for the average joe to set up on both ends.
It would take some time to work out the wrinkles and would have to be 
done in advance or you would end up with nada...


Probably wiser to stick with the best web cam you can get if you do 
it all all...
A while back someone recommended one model as being particularly good 
but I can't remember the name of it...


db


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Re: [CGUYS] SMTP server app?

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
Thanks, but these are both forum functions and they don't seem to be
options (nor mods) in vBulletin.

vBulletin is written in PHP so you should be able to modify anything you 
like. I would think adding parameters to a SendMail call would be a very 
simple modification.



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Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

That I am very aware of.

However the church will be well lit, not dark.

Stewart


At 03:31 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote:

I don't think you will find a web cam that will give you a decent wide
angle shot in the lighting you are likely to have.  They really are
designed for more intimate purposes - web chats, etc., not live event
feeds.

Matthew

On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:


OK to all you gadget gurus out there.

My daughter is getting married this fall.

My in-laws (Most of my wife's family actually) live in the northern
reaches of Ontario and are showing a reluctance to traveling this
far south.  They wondered if I their techhy son-in-law could set up
a laptop with a web cam and broadcast the wedding via the Internet
so they could watch it live instead of being there.  (My preference
is them be there)

I remember someone like Linksysy at one time had these and marketed
them, but I do not know if they are still out there and I have no
idea how well these work.

To me it seems like a whole lot of work just to please some people
who do not like to travel. (long history here)

Anyone have any ideas?

How much am I looking at to get this setup and make it work?

The church has high speed Internet so that will not be a problem.

Stewart



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Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
For better picture quality and light sensitivity, for the web cam you 
could substitute a digital or analog video camera, possibly a video 
capture card or other interface device and ICQ or Netmeeting etc 

Apple's iChat works with FireWire cameras. The best video cameras use 
FireWire so that would give you better results.

it would still not be a full screen image and it would probably be 
realistically too complex for the average joe to set up on both ends. 

Apple's iChat supports 640 x 480, which is the maximum you can get out of 
a video camera. To get that you need a Mac with at least a 1.93 MHz Core 
Duo processor and a 900 kbps Internet connection. It automatically 
adjusts to the best your equipment will support.

Apple's iChat works with AOL's free AIM system so that going to be easy 
on the setup on the other end of the line. It also does ICQ, etc.

I suggest borrowing a Mac laptop to make the whole thing very easy.



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[CGUYS] Time Warner pay based on Data Usage?

2008-01-17 Thread Richard P.
Time Warner is floating a plan to pay for Internet based on usage in 
this Marketplace story:

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/01/17/timewarner/

Text follows below.

Richard P.

Thursday, January 17, 2008

Time Warner Cable plans to test a system in which Internet subscribers 
would pay for the amount of data they download. That's not good news for 
anyone who likes watching movies and music videos online. Ashley 
Milne-Tyte reports.


TEXT OF STORY

TESS VIGELAND: Most of us get billed the same amount every month for our 
Internet connections, no matter how much or how little we surf the Web, 
but Time Warner Cable is looking into a new business model. The 
country's second biggest cable provider says it's planning to test a 
system where Internet subscribers pay for the amount of data they 
download. Not good news for anyone who likes watching movies and music 
videos online.


Ashley Milne-Tyte reports.

ASHLEY MILNE-TYTE: Time Warner Cable starts testing in Beaumont, Texas 
later this year. Company spokesman Alex Dudley blames a small number of 
bandwidth hogs.


   ALEX DUDLEY: Less than 5 percent of our users are at times using up 
to 50 percent of our network. Which means that they are negatively 
impacting on the experience for the rest of our customers.


He says the trial will tier customers based on how many gigabytes of 
data they download each month. He says the company hasn't decided how 
much each group will pay, but Porter Bibb of Media Tech Capital Partners 
doesn't believe light Internet users will pay any less, and he says Time 
Warner will charge heavy users a premium.


   PORTER BIBB: And that's simply not going to fly. It's as nonsensical 
as saying if you have cable television and you don't watch much 
television you're going to pay less than someone who watches 24/7.


Bibb says this is just a way for cable companies to get an early piece 
of the online video pie, but Declan McCullagh of CNET says Internet 
service providers need to try new pricing models, because all that video 
clogs their pipes.


   DECLAN McCULLAGH: It's very expensive to build new pipes, so what do 
you do? I think we're going to see experimentation. We're going to see 
some ISPs try to charge. We're going to see other ISPs, and Comcast is 
already doing this, trying to throttle.


That is, slow down the speed of the connection for those who use a lot 
of bandwidth. He says U.S. consumers may have got used to all-in-one 
pricing for Internet use, but he says bandwidth could eventually be like 
any other utility, where the free market dictates how much we pay.


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Re: [CGUYS] What to charge for contract to develop web content?

2008-01-17 Thread Randy
So if a client is going to pay, say, $50 an hour, I need to add 6% onto that
for this tax?  Who does it actually cover?  The term computer consultant
seems pretty vague and broad.  Wouldn't call what I'll be doing that, though
maybe someone else would.

Randall

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 You mean that all of the sudden in Maryland there is now a 6% tax on
 computer consulting earnings?  How, btw, is this even considered a sales
 tax?

 That is not how a sales tax works. You just add 6% at the bottom of the
 bill and collect it. From time to time you send the money over to the
 government. It only becomes a problem if you fail to collect it. Then you
 get to pay the tax, plus fines, with your own money.


 
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Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Not going to happen, thanks for the advice though.

Stewart


At 06:43 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote:

For better picture quality and light sensitivity, for the web cam you
could substitute a digital or analog video camera, possibly a video
capture card or other interface device and ICQ or Netmeeting etc

Apple's iChat works with FireWire cameras. The best video cameras use
FireWire so that would give you better results.

it would still not be a full screen image and it would probably be
realistically too complex for the average joe to set up on both ends.

Apple's iChat supports 640 x 480, which is the maximum you can get out of
a video camera. To get that you need a Mac with at least a 1.93 MHz Core
Duo processor and a 900 kbps Internet connection. It automatically
adjusts to the best your equipment will support.

Apple's iChat works with AOL's free AIM system so that going to be easy
on the setup on the other end of the line. It also does ICQ, etc.

I suggest borrowing a Mac laptop to make the whole thing very easy.


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[CGUYS] Voting machines, data mining, electoral fraud

2008-01-17 Thread Paul Meyer
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/opedne_mark_cri_080116_what_to_expect_from_.htm

Mark Crispin Miller's piece was posted recently about recounts in NH.
You don't have to buy his thesis about the rigging of any particular
election, but his point about the fact that the company
programming the voting machines in NH also has a data mining business
is rather important.


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Re: [CGUYS] What to charge for contract to develop web content?

2008-01-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For the record (from http://www.marylandtaxes.com/special_session/default.asp):


Sales and Use Tax - Computer Services - The special session of the Maryland 
General Assembly resulted in changes to the Maryland sales and use tax 
statutes. The legislature also extended the sales and use tax to certain 
computer services effective July 1, 2008. The Comptroller's Office will release 
additional information regarding the taxability of these services in the near 
future. Please continue to visit this Web site as information related to this 
subject will be posted here as a means to inform all businesses about how this 
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Re: [CGUYS] Time Warner pay based on Data Usage?

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
Time Warner is floating a plan to pay for Internet based on usage in 
this Marketplace story:
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/01/17/timewarner/

I heard it and am tempted to write to Marketplace about a very poorly 
researched story. The assertion that there is a shortage of capacity is 
false. One of the two experts she interviewed was actually just another 
reporter.



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Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
Not going to happen, thanks for the advice though.

It is interesting how much pain some people are willing to suffer to 
maintain their fealty to Bill Gates  Co. What were we posting the other 
day about religion?



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Re: [CGUYS] What to charge for contract to develop web content?

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
So if a client is going to pay, say, $50 an hour, I need to add 6% onto that
for this tax?  Who does it actually cover?  The term computer consultant
seems pretty vague and broad.  Wouldn't call what I'll be doing that, though
maybe someone else would.

How could it be that the concept of a sales tax escapes you? Do you live 
in New Hampshire? You just put a line at the bottom of the invoice MD 
Sales Tax 6%. Is that so hard?

Hairdressers have to charge the tax too.

Taxes are the fee we pay for civilization. It is a bargain.



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Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Tom has more to do with unavailability.

No one in my congregation has a Mac laptop  (I have one member 
that has Mac's all desktop units)


I don't know anyone with a Mac laptop so I have to make do with what I have.

What I was thinking about doing though is to get a firewire card for 
my laptop and hook up the Firewire from my nice Panasonic Video 
recorder and using that as the cam.


Not a religion, but facing reality!

Stewart


At 08:32 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote:

Not going to happen, thanks for the advice though.

It is interesting how much pain some people are willing to suffer to
maintain their fealty to Bill Gates  Co. What were we posting the other
day about religion?


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Re: [CGUYS] What to charge for contract to develop web content?

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Be glad yours is only 6 in TN we paid 9.75 on everything (including 
groceries) and here in Alabama we pay 9 on everything.  Oh and in 
Alabama churches are not tax exempt!


Stewart


At 08:40 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote:

How could it be that the concept of a sales tax escapes you? Do you live
in New Hampshire? You just put a line at the bottom of the invoice MD
Sales Tax 6%. Is that so hard?

Hairdressers have to charge the tax too.

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Re: [CGUYS] What to charge for contract to develop web content?

2008-01-17 Thread Randy
Okay, but when the state of MD has this set amount of $ to pay for this
contract and we are talking about getting paid X dollars per hour for a
certain period, don't think they are thinking they have pay this extra 6%.
But first I'll have to verify if this type of service would even be covered.
That would jack up the price for $50/hour fee to $53.

Randall

On Jan 17, 2008 9:40 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So if a client is going to pay, say, $50 an hour, I need to add 6% onto
 that
 for this tax?  Who does it actually cover?  The term computer
 consultant
 seems pretty vague and broad.  Wouldn't call what I'll be doing that,
 though
 maybe someone else would.

 How could it be that the concept of a sales tax escapes you? Do you live
 in New Hampshire? You just put a line at the bottom of the invoice MD
 Sales Tax 6%. Is that so hard?

 Hairdressers have to charge the tax too.

 Taxes are the fee we pay for civilization. It is a bargain.


 
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Re: [CGUYS] What to charge for contract to develop web content?

2008-01-17 Thread Randy
Good point, why would the state tax the same state?

Randall

On 1/17/08, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Randall, I am not sure but I think a state entity (Anything run by
 the state)  would be tax exempt.  Check with them for sure.

 Stewart


 At 09:35 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote:
 Okay, but when the state of MD has this set amount of $ to pay for this
 contract and we are talking about getting paid X dollars per hour for a
 certain period, don't think they are thinking they have pay this extra 6%.
 But first I'll have to verify if this type of service would even be
 covered.
 That would jack up the price for $50/hour fee to $53.
 
 Randall

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