Re: Upgrading kde to 2.1 in Mandrake 7.2 (was Re: [Cooker] QT, fonts, etc.)
Instead of rebooting: 1) Delete /home/yourlogin/.kde by : "rm -fr ~/.kde" (otherwise your icons will all be weird, trust me!). 2) Restart X-Window Font server by : "/etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart" in the console 3) Restart X-Window by: "init 3" then "init 5" in the console Linux doesn't need any reboot except for kernel upgrade. Cheers, Prana > Ron, > > Thanks very much for this reply! It may be a few days until I work up > my nerve to try it again. When I do, I may have a few questions -- I'll > be sure to let you know. > > Assuming it works for me, do you have any objection to me "publishing" > it to my local LUG, to comp.windows.x.kde, and to a wiki that I'm > working on (not up yet)? > > Thanks again! > Randy Kramer > > > Ron Stodden wrote: > > > > Randy Kramer wrote: > > > > > > I've had some troubles attempting to upgrade kde 2.0 to 2.1 in > Mandrake > > > 7.2. I would like three things: > > > > > > > You can quite happily install KDE 2.1 with KDE running, as long as > > you reboot immediately it is done. > > > > Don't use any --nodeps or --force unless you know exactly what you > > are doing. > > > > It's not too difficult: > > > > 1. Download the unsupported/KDE2.1 directory and set to there in a > > terminal window. > > > > 2. rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm > > > > This will show you the difficulties. > > > > 3. Install the apmd rpm if it expected to find it. > > > > 4. Install the ppp rpm if it expected to find it. > > > > 5. If you have a libarts2 rpm installed delete it. > > > > 6. rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm > > > > again. All should be clean now. > > > > 7. If kdelibfakes.so.0 persists, do an install of libarts2 from the > > KDE 2.1 directory. > > > > 8. rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm > > > > All is clean? > > > > 9. Remove the libarts2 rpm > > > > 8. rpm -Uvh *.rpm > > > > If any kdelibfakes errors you MAY have to repeat with --nodeps. > > > > 10. Run rpm --rebuild > > > > 11. Run makemenu -v > > > > 12. Reboot. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Ron. [au] > -- Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] confused... lilo and grub
Hi guys, I hope you don't misunderstand, but people are getting quite confused because the packages are too bloated. I'm not complaining, this is just a compilation of suggestions. For example: there are 6 e-mail clients in 7.2: nmh, exmh, pine, mutt, balsa, etc and I personally believe that it's just too much. Then there are 3 news clients (excluding gnome & kde's): tin, xrn, slrn, etc. Having 2 choices are good enough. Then there are 10 or more editors that have the same function: GXEdit, gedit, nedit, yudit, latte etc... why :-( Then there are several IDEs, but the only **usable** one, IMHO, is only XWPE - both for X-Window and console. There are packages like xmame, xmess, Basilski (those are emulators that almost only 2% of the populations that use them and the extracted RPM size is large!). Then there are 3 dhcp client : dhcp-client, dhcpxd, dhcpcd. Which one is the most usable and the one that has more features? I know Chmouel have explained that some of them don't work, so... can we choose only 1 instead? Do people really need Dosemu and XDosEmu still? I don't know... I don't think so. Then there are weird developmental languages like ghc, happy, hugs98, mercury, whatever and most programmers only use: C++/C/Objective C, Perl, LISP, Fortran (for compatibility with old unix apps) and some in Pascal. That's the large percentage of language used, but stuff like ruby and whatsoever :=( Then the quality of packages like /usr/X11R6/bin/ico <- what kind of a joke program is it? I know they're from X11R6-contrib... but still it's really useless.. I'll send a diff to Pixel for rpmrate tonight.. there are some missing stuff (not rated) there too.. The more RPM packages that we have, the more: 1) User will think that Mandrake is bloated, just like this guy said here: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-09-016-04-SC-MD- 2) The more security vulnerability. This will damage our reputation. Just eliminate Zope ( > 5 security vulnerability in the last 3 months!) , throw it away. We really don't need a very low performance Zope. Zope is very slow compared to PHP, and it's quite resource hog. 3) The less the packages the better we can concentrate & focus on optimizations, speed, and security. Trim down stuff that are not going to be used by people, such as xrn, slrn, etc. Or :-( I don't know, this problem is just getting to complex and it seems it can't be denied that unless developers decide to really trim it down, it's gonna be a super bloatware. Am I making sense here? Prana > On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > So sprach Prana am Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:57AM -0500: > > > Why is there 2 bootloaders? Lilo and Grub? > > > > Because some people like to use lilo, as hard as this is imaginable. > And > > the rest sticks with grub. > > > > Why is it hard to imagine? After searching for half an hour and having > found NO usable grub documentation, I decided I can just as well forget > it. > > -andrej > > -- Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] confused... lilo and grub
I like Lilo, why would anybody like Grub? Is there a significant advantage over it? Prana > So sprach Prana am Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:57AM -0500: > > Why is there 2 bootloaders? Lilo and Grub? > > Because some people like to use lilo, as hard as this is imaginable. And > the rest sticks with grub. > > Alexander Skwar > -- > How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) > Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de >iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen > Uptime: 6 days 0 hours 47 minutes > -- Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
[Cooker] Fwd: MandrakeUpdateRobot 0.8-4mdk
--- Weitergeleitete Nachricht / Forwarded Message --- Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:15:11 +0100 From: Charles Nepote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MandrakeUpdateRobot 0.8-4mdk > Hi Prana, > > > MandrakeUpdateRobot now works very fine behind our corporate > proxy/firewall > (Squid). Thank you for your work ! > > Three small remarks : > > -- when I launched drakeupdatesetup by error from DrakConf (or from > command > line) if I answer "no" to this question : > "Now, are you ready to continue the setup wizard? [Y/N] > Your answer:n" > it writes a blank /etc/drakeupdatetxt.conf so it losts the last > configuration... and then mandrakeupdaterobot segfault because it have an > empty configuration file. (Is my explanation clear enought ?). > > -- it should be good to have the choice of upgrading only "security > updates" > ; maybe it's a lot of work I think it would be a good option for > administrators who just want security upgrades ; > > -- there is an error in your message : "If you want to run this program as > a > daemon, copy the file /etc/urpmi/drakupdaterobot.cron to /etc/cron.daily. > If > you don't know how to copy it, just type: "cp > /etc/urpmi/drakupdaterobot.cron > /etc/cron.weekly" ; drakeupdaterobot.cron is located in /etc on my system. > > Thanks again for your very good work ! > Charles Népote. > -- Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] BSD Kernel + Mandrake
Should be this one - read http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=98347493206995&w=2 > Shannon Matteson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Joshman, I heartily agree that the BSD is currently more scalable, but > > the point of (or one of the points of) Linux Mandrake is ease of use, > > and to switch kernels would be so huge a setback for the distro that you > > might as well start at 1.0. It would indeed be a step backwards, not > > only for the developers of LM, but for consistency and probably ease of > > use, as well. Of course, I am far from an expert, so I am quite > > possibly wrong. > > > > Sure, *BSD is more stable. But Linux and *BSD are separate for a > > reason, methinks. If you like *BSD, then use *BSD! If you wanna use > > both, use VMWare! > > > for all of you who doubt if BSD is better that linux you may have to > checkout the (recent) thread on the lkml about that : > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=98341027108236&w=2 > > -- > MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org > --Chmouel > -- Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
WORKS! Re: [Cooker] PCI modem 3CP2977 claimed to be Winmodem 5610
Hiya, I have 3COM PCI modem at home, works under 7.2 without additional hardware Read http://www.cyest.org/tutorials/3compcimodem/ Prana > If beta freeze is not a joke - what about this problem (several bug > reports from several people?) Hardrake claims my modem is Winmodem > 3COM 5610. I have no idea if 5610 is winmodem or not - but mine is > 3CP2977, PCI hardware modem that has been on duty for several months. > > lspci -n: > 02:0d.0 Class 0700: 12b9:1008 (rev 01) > > lspci -vv: > 02:0d.0 Serial controller: US Robotics/3Com 56K FaxModem Model 5610 (rev > 01) (prog-if 02 [16550]) > Subsystem: US Robotics/3Com USR 56k Internal FAX Modem (Model > 2977) > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- > ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- > Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- > SERR- Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9 > Region 0: I/O ports at d000 [size=8] > Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 > Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA > PME(D0+,D1-,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+) > Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=2 PME- > > > lspcidrake: > unknown : US Robotics/3Com|56K FaxModem Model 5610 > [COMMUNICATION_SERIAL] > > dmesg: > > Serial driver version 5.02 (2000-08-09) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT > SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled > ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A > ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A > PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 02:0d.0 > ttyS02 at port 0xd000 (irq = 9) is a 16550A > > Note, that it is kernel 2.4.2-3mdk; stock 7.2 came with old serial module > that did not support PCI modems and when I compiled serial-5.05 it > assigned ttyS4 and not ttyS2 (as was in readme, first 4 ports are reserved > for legacy devices). > > -andrej > > -- Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
[Cooker] Mandrake Update Robot into 8.0 ?
Just wondering, is MUR going into 8.0? -- Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] BIND 8.2.2p7 Problems
Update your Bind to 8.2.3. Prana -- Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] Has anyone got a good rsync script for cooker?
You can also try Mandrake Update Robot (drakupdaterobot) with this to download only the RPM ... note that it's still BETA though :) I've tried updating my 7.2 yesterday... boy updating 149 RPM packages! Can you imagine? :-) > > On 2001.02.06 23:35:07 +0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am using one that I got awhile back, but it has some problems. > Mine is not a 'good' script, but gives me full satisfaction: > #!/bin/sh > # Synchronise le miroir local de cooker > > # definition de variables > OPT="-av --delete" > SERVER="sunsite.uio.no" > DIR="/var/ftp/pub/distributions" > > # cooker > echo > echo "mirroring cooker" > echo "" > rsync $OPT \ > $SERVER::Mandrake-devel/ \ > $DIR/mandrake-devel > > # updates > echo > echo "mirroring mandrake" > echo "--" > rsync $OPT \ > $SERVER::Mandrake/ \ > $DIR/mandrake > > If you're looking after something more complete, you should have a look at > Ron Stodden's one (search in mailing lsit archives for exact URL, or just > wait for Ron to recall it there). > Guillaume > -- > If mathematically you end up with the incorrect answer, try multiplying by > the page number > -- Murphy's Laws on Technology n°35 > -- Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] Ramen babies and automated updates.
I'm making one, still discussing it here. Read the details in my earlier post. Don't worry. > Hi > > According to this article on the Ramen worm: > > http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jan2001/nf20010123_284.htm > > an automated non gui update, could kill further attacks on Linux along > their lines. > > Has anyone tried apt, from cooker contribs, on a cooker. Would love to > hear about your experiences. > > regards > guran > -- Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x33343FD3 Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
