Re: [Cooker] Re: iso image files

2000-12-16 Thread Ron Stodden

pablito wrote:
> 
> Is anyone posting cooker iso files anywhere?  I only have a slow T-line
> connection (about 300kbs) and it's very difficult to download all of the
> individual files and keep them all matched up so that they install
> correctly.  It would be really helpful to post these iso files, maybe even
> weekly ones, so that people like me who are just beginning to figure Linux
> out can see what the new version's like.

If you have disk space to download 2 iso files, then you would have
the disk space to download the cooker tree and install from it
directly using a floppy created from /images/hd.img.   This is much
faster and avoids the need to burn any CDs.

The download of the Cooker tree can be significantly speeded up and
space-reduced for users who only want an English_GB installation by
using my special perl rsync script designed for this purpose and very
popular among users here.   The use of rsync guarantees you that
everything is kept all matched up.  It also converts all file updates
to much faster simple patch runs using rsync's superb technology.  
Read about it and download from:

http://members.optushome.com.au/ronst/

Licence is GPL.

-- 
Regards,

Ron. [AU]




RE: [RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files]

2000-12-15 Thread Chris Young

while I realise that there would be a possible sync issue. there are ways to
minimize that.

CRC of the filenames for example.  Don't get me wrong, I am not saying it
would be trivial to do, but I am sure it could save a tremendous amount of
time for people who can't get a full fileset before the next update.

Probably down to about 1 cent now ;-)

Chris

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quel Qun
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 7:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files]
>
>
> "Chris Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I agree that it would be better that way.  in fact, I thought there was
> > supposed to be a current Cooker ISO set available on linuxberg, but I
> > couldn't find it.  I just took the script from the 7.2beta and
> modified it
> > to fit my needs.  It would seem that the mirror could just kick off the
> same
> > script via cron then there would always be a current cooker iso set.
> >
> > just my $.02
> > Chris
> >
>
> It is actually not so easy to do since there is no guaranty that cooker is
> complete. If (e.g.) you decide to make an iso when the kernel is being
> updated, you will end up with something unusable. Even worse, you
> could end up
> with wrong versions in the index files used by the installer
> because the rpms
> have been updated after these files were created.
>
> When you do your own images, you can at least check that the
> basic stuff is
> there, and stop the mirroring. Current is a concept that has no
> real meaning
> for something like cooker.
>
> Making a total of 4 cts (maybe 3).
>
> =-=
> kk1
>
> 
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Re: [RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files]

2000-12-15 Thread Quel Qun

"Chris Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree that it would be better that way.  in fact, I thought there was
> supposed to be a current Cooker ISO set available on linuxberg, but I
> couldn't find it.  I just took the script from the 7.2beta and modified it
> to fit my needs.  It would seem that the mirror could just kick off the
same
> script via cron then there would always be a current cooker iso set.
> 
> just my $.02
> Chris
> 

It is actually not so easy to do since there is no guaranty that cooker is
complete. If (e.g.) you decide to make an iso when the kernel is being
updated, you will end up with something unusable. Even worse, you could end up
with wrong versions in the index files used by the installer because the rpms
have been updated after these files were created.

When you do your own images, you can at least check that the basic stuff is
there, and stop the mirroring. Current is a concept that has no real meaning
for something like cooker.

Making a total of 4 cts (maybe 3).

=-=
kk1


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RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files

2000-12-15 Thread Chris Young
dev=4,0 Cooker-CD1.iso

# the first CD comes out the CD-writer and the script comes out at the
# place where your second image file is - ready to perform
# 'cdrecor
#cd $mdkISO2DIR
#cdrecord -eject -v -data speed=4 dev=4,0 Cooker-CD2.iso



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Xuedong Zhang
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 5:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
>
>
> I am just trying to generate the iso by myself using 72beta script.
> The problem is that seems there is some packages list not matched
> in file rpmslist
>
> For example: qt2 -> libqt2 , and so on
> how do you deal with it?
>
> On Fri,
> 15 Dec 2000, Chris Young wrote:
>
> > I agree that it would be better that way.  in fact, I thought there was
> > supposed to be a current Cooker ISO set available on linuxberg, but I
> > couldn't find it.  I just took the script from the 7.2beta and
> modified it
> > to fit my needs.  It would seem that the mirror could just kick
> off the same
> > script via cron then there would always be a current cooker iso set.
> >
> > just my $.02
> > Chris
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablito
> > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:00 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
> > >
> > >
> > > That's really nice.  I wonder where you could post them.  Now
> that I think
> > > of it, it is a chore to post files that large.  I was mainly
> asking if any
> > > of the official mirror sites were going to run off iso files and
> > > post them.
> > > Seems logical, since they already have the files and don't have
> > > to send them
> > > anywhere.  The disk space the internet server allots me is
> about enough to
> > > post the enlightenment rpm and that's about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Xuedong Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Chris Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:43 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
> > >
> > >
> > > >If you post is somewhere, could you let me know.
> > > >Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Chris Young wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Pablito,
> > > >>
> > > >> I made a set of ISO files from the Dec 9th fileset.  It's not
> > > the newest,
> > > >> but if you want I can probably post them someplace for you.
> > > >>
> > > >> Chris
> > > >>
> > > >> > -Original Message-
> > > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablito
> > > >> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:35 AM
> > > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> > Subject: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Is anyone posting cooker iso files anywhere?  I only have a
> > > slow T-line
> > > >> > connection (about 300kbs) and it's very difficult to
> download all of
> > > the
> > > >> > individual files and keep them all matched up so that
> they install
> > > >> > correctly.  It would be really helpful to post these iso
> files, maybe
> > > even
> > > >> > weekly ones, so that people like me who are just
> beginning to figure
> > > Linux
> > > >> > out can see what the new version's like.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Xuedong Zhang
> > > >---office: (617)353-9148-
> > > >Cummington St. 44/BME, Boston 02215, MA USA
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files

2000-12-15 Thread Xuedong Zhang

I am just trying to generate the iso by myself using 72beta script.
The problem is that seems there is some packages list not matched 
in file rpmslist

For example: qt2 -> libqt2 , and so on
how do you deal with it?

On Fri,
15 Dec 2000, Chris Young wrote:

> I agree that it would be better that way.  in fact, I thought there was
> supposed to be a current Cooker ISO set available on linuxberg, but I
> couldn't find it.  I just took the script from the 7.2beta and modified it
> to fit my needs.  It would seem that the mirror could just kick off the same
> script via cron then there would always be a current cooker iso set.
> 
> just my $.02
> Chris
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablito
> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:00 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
> >
> >
> > That's really nice.  I wonder where you could post them.  Now that I think
> > of it, it is a chore to post files that large.  I was mainly asking if any
> > of the official mirror sites were going to run off iso files and
> > post them.
> > Seems logical, since they already have the files and don't have
> > to send them
> > anywhere.  The disk space the internet server allots me is about enough to
> > post the enlightenment rpm and that's about it.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Xuedong Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Chris Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:43 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
> >
> >
> > >If you post is somewhere, could you let me know.
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Chris Young wrote:
> > >
> > >> Pablito,
> > >>
> > >> I made a set of ISO files from the Dec 9th fileset.  It's not
> > the newest,
> > >> but if you want I can probably post them someplace for you.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> > -Original Message-
> > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablito
> > >> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:35 AM
> > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > Subject: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Is anyone posting cooker iso files anywhere?  I only have a
> > slow T-line
> > >> > connection (about 300kbs) and it's very difficult to download all of
> > the
> > >> > individual files and keep them all matched up so that they install
> > >> > correctly.  It would be really helpful to post these iso files, maybe
> > even
> > >> > weekly ones, so that people like me who are just beginning to figure
> > Linux
> > >> > out can see what the new version's like.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >--
> > >Xuedong Zhang
> > >---office: (617)353-9148-
> > >Cummington St. 44/BME, Boston 02215, MA USA
> > >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://hello.to/xuedong ---
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 

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RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files

2000-12-15 Thread Chris Young

I agree that it would be better that way.  in fact, I thought there was
supposed to be a current Cooker ISO set available on linuxberg, but I
couldn't find it.  I just took the script from the 7.2beta and modified it
to fit my needs.  It would seem that the mirror could just kick off the same
script via cron then there would always be a current cooker iso set.

just my $.02
Chris

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablito
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
>
>
> That's really nice.  I wonder where you could post them.  Now that I think
> of it, it is a chore to post files that large.  I was mainly asking if any
> of the official mirror sites were going to run off iso files and
> post them.
> Seems logical, since they already have the files and don't have
> to send them
> anywhere.  The disk space the internet server allots me is about enough to
> post the enlightenment rpm and that's about it.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Xuedong Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Chris Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:43 AM
> Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
>
>
> >If you post is somewhere, could you let me know.
> >Thanks.
> >
> >On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Chris Young wrote:
> >
> >> Pablito,
> >>
> >> I made a set of ISO files from the Dec 9th fileset.  It's not
> the newest,
> >> but if you want I can probably post them someplace for you.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablito
> >> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:35 AM
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is anyone posting cooker iso files anywhere?  I only have a
> slow T-line
> >> > connection (about 300kbs) and it's very difficult to download all of
> the
> >> > individual files and keep them all matched up so that they install
> >> > correctly.  It would be really helpful to post these iso files, maybe
> even
> >> > weekly ones, so that people like me who are just beginning to figure
> Linux
> >> > out can see what the new version's like.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >--
> >Xuedong Zhang
> >---office: (617)353-9148-
> >Cummington St. 44/BME, Boston 02215, MA USA
> >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://hello.to/xuedong ---
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>





Re: [Cooker] Re: iso image files

2000-12-15 Thread Oleg Godeanu

Maybe tar-gs-ing the iso image would save some space - that's what GreatBridge 
(www.GreatBridge.com) is doing with the .iso image of their postgreSQL distribution ...

Oleg
-- Original Message --
From: "pablito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:00:04 -0800

>That's really nice.  I wonder where you could post them.  Now that I think
>of it, it is a chore to post files that large.  I was mainly asking if any
>of the official mirror sites were going to run off iso files and post them.
>Seems logical, since they already have the files and don't have to send them
>anywhere.  The disk space the internet server allots me is about enough to
>post the enlightenment rpm and that's about it.
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Xuedong Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Chris Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:43 AM
>Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
>
>
>>If you post is somewhere, could you let me know.
>>Thanks.
>>
>>On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Chris Young wrote:
>>
>>> Pablito,
>>>
>>> I made a set of ISO files from the Dec 9th fileset.  It's not the newest,
>>> but if you want I can probably post them someplace for you.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-
>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablito
>>> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:35 AM
>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Subject: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Is anyone posting cooker iso files anywhere?  I only have a slow T-line
>>> > connection (about 300kbs) and it's very difficult to download all of
>the
>>> > individual files and keep them all matched up so that they install
>>> > correctly.  It would be really helpful to post these iso files, maybe
>even
>>> > weekly ones, so that people like me who are just beginning to figure
>Linux
>>> > out can see what the new version's like.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Xuedong Zhang
>>---office: (617)353-9148-
>>Cummington St. 44/BME, Boston 02215, MA USA
>>--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://hello.to/xuedong ---
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Re: [Cooker] Re: iso image files

2000-12-15 Thread pablito

That's really nice.  I wonder where you could post them.  Now that I think
of it, it is a chore to post files that large.  I was mainly asking if any
of the official mirror sites were going to run off iso files and post them.
Seems logical, since they already have the files and don't have to send them
anywhere.  The disk space the internet server allots me is about enough to
post the enlightenment rpm and that's about it.



-Original Message-
From: Xuedong Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Chris Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files


>If you post is somewhere, could you let me know.
>Thanks.
>
>On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Chris Young wrote:
>
>> Pablito,
>>
>> I made a set of ISO files from the Dec 9th fileset.  It's not the newest,
>> but if you want I can probably post them someplace for you.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablito
>> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:35 AM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
>> >
>> >
>> > Is anyone posting cooker iso files anywhere?  I only have a slow T-line
>> > connection (about 300kbs) and it's very difficult to download all of
the
>> > individual files and keep them all matched up so that they install
>> > correctly.  It would be really helpful to post these iso files, maybe
even
>> > weekly ones, so that people like me who are just beginning to figure
Linux
>> > out can see what the new version's like.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Xuedong Zhang
>---office: (617)353-9148-
>Cummington St. 44/BME, Boston 02215, MA USA
>--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://hello.to/xuedong ---
>
>
>





RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files

2000-12-15 Thread Xuedong Zhang

If you post is somewhere, could you let me know. 
Thanks.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Chris Young wrote:

> Pablito,
> 
> I made a set of ISO files from the Dec 9th fileset.  It's not the newest,
> but if you want I can probably post them someplace for you.
> 
> Chris
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablito
> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:35 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
> >
> >
> > Is anyone posting cooker iso files anywhere?  I only have a slow T-line
> > connection (about 300kbs) and it's very difficult to download all of the
> > individual files and keep them all matched up so that they install
> > correctly.  It would be really helpful to post these iso files, maybe even
> > weekly ones, so that people like me who are just beginning to figure Linux
> > out can see what the new version's like.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Xuedong Zhang
---office: (617)353-9148-
Cummington St. 44/BME, Boston 02215, MA USA
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://hello.to/xuedong ---





RE: [Cooker] Re: iso image files

2000-12-15 Thread Chris Young

Pablito,

I made a set of ISO files from the Dec 9th fileset.  It's not the newest,
but if you want I can probably post them someplace for you.

Chris

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablito
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Cooker] Re: iso image files
>
>
> Is anyone posting cooker iso files anywhere?  I only have a slow T-line
> connection (about 300kbs) and it's very difficult to download all of the
> individual files and keep them all matched up so that they install
> correctly.  It would be really helpful to post these iso files, maybe even
> weekly ones, so that people like me who are just beginning to figure Linux
> out can see what the new version's like.
>
>
>
>
>





[Cooker] Re: iso image files

2000-12-15 Thread pablito

Is anyone posting cooker iso files anywhere?  I only have a slow T-line
connection (about 300kbs) and it's very difficult to download all of the
individual files and keep them all matched up so that they install
correctly.  It would be really helpful to post these iso files, maybe even
weekly ones, so that people like me who are just beginning to figure Linux
out can see what the new version's like.