Re: [Cooker] illegal binaries?

2002-01-17 Thread Mike & Tracy Holt

12:48am... Alexander Skwar was spotted running through the streets shrieking:

>This would not be illegal, would it?  I mean, if the %post section would
>compile the stuff, the "binary" (or rather noarch?) RPM would only
>distribute the source. 
>
>Alexander Skwar


Wouldn't that be 'contributing to the delinquency of a binary'?

...sorry couldn't resist :-)

Mike

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Re: [Cooker] illegal binaries?

2002-01-17 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Ainsi parlait Alexander Skwar :
> So sprach »Ben Bruscella« am 2002-01-17 um 10:15:54 +1100 :
> > actually 'illegal' to distribute binaries.Same with lame I think.  I
> > am sure this will become more common, so how will this situation be
> > handled in a distribution like Mandrake?
>
> Well, I don't see much of a problem - if it's illegal to distribute the
> binary, it won't be included.
Refering to legality in the case of mplayer, which is of course used only to 
view backup divx of your own dvd, has always amazed me. The legality of the 
windows dll package they also distribute seems to bother them a bit less.

> However, the MPlayer guys also give another explanation about why
> MPlayer binaries are bad: MPlayer is always optimized for the machine it
> was built on.  So, if *I*'d build MPlayer binaries, I'd get Athlon
> binaries, which won't do any good on Celeron systems.
For my own experience, i used a long time a package compiled without any 
optimisation on several boxes without  any problems. And now that i recompile 
it before use, i would have difficulties to notify real improvements.

> Now MPlayer is a rather good example - for apps like this, it would be
> good if someone would release a "binary" rpm, which upon installation
> (rpm -Uvh) would compile the stuff and then install the optimized
> version.
>
> Hmm, interesting idea...  Maybe I'll try to do something in this
> direction ;)
You're free to test it. However, i think improving urpmi to work with source 
package, as it is currently evolving, will provide a far better and more 
general solution.

> This would not be illegal, would it?  I mean, if the %post section would
> compile the stuff, the "binary" (or rather noarch?) RPM would only
> distribute the source.
>
> Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] illegal binaries?

2002-01-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Ben Bruscella« am 2002-01-17 um 10:15:54 +1100 :
> actually 'illegal' to distribute binaries.Same with lame I think.  I am
> sure this will become more common, so how will this situation be handled in
> a distribution like Mandrake?

Well, I don't see much of a problem - if it's illegal to distribute the
binary, it won't be included.

However, the MPlayer guys also give another explanation about why
MPlayer binaries are bad: MPlayer is always optimized for the machine it
was built on.  So, if *I*'d build MPlayer binaries, I'd get Athlon
binaries, which won't do any good on Celeron systems.

Now MPlayer is a rather good example - for apps like this, it would be
good if someone would release a "binary" rpm, which upon installation
(rpm -Uvh) would compile the stuff and then install the optimized
version.

Hmm, interesting idea...  Maybe I'll try to do something in this
direction ;)

This would not be illegal, would it?  I mean, if the %post section would
compile the stuff, the "binary" (or rather noarch?) RPM would only
distribute the source. 

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] illegal binaries?

2002-01-16 Thread andre

> 
> Just curious..
> 
> I was recently reading about MPlayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/), and it is
> actually 'illegal' to distribute binaries.Same with lame I think.  I am
> sure this will become more common, so how will this situation be handled in
> a distribution like Mandrake?
> 
> Ben
> 
>
It is not so much illegal to distribute binaries. It is more a problem of
patents you have to "break" to make binaries





[Cooker] illegal binaries?

2002-01-16 Thread Ben Bruscella

Just curious..

I was recently reading about MPlayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/), and it is
actually 'illegal' to distribute binaries.Same with lame I think.  I am
sure this will become more common, so how will this situation be handled in
a distribution like Mandrake?

Ben