Re: [Cooker] gnome helix

2000-03-13 Thread OS

'cos the panel is enclined to crash when running under E !

On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Lord And Master;) wrote:
> 
> > I hope that the new helix mandrake rpms that are comming will support
> > enlightenment... sawmill is cool but I like My enlightenment!!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > other than that doing a carefull upgrade of most of the rpms that came
> > with 7.0 worked good
> > 
> > 
> > -DarkWlf
>  
>  
> Why would they stop... Sawmill is just the default.. 
> 
> -- 
> MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
> --Axalon



Re: [Cooker] gnome helix (E+panel=done wrong)

2000-03-12 Thread Steve Fox

"Lord And Master;)" wrote:
> btw any news on the real mandrake specific helix-gnome rpms and not the redhat
> copies? thankx.

I recieved an email from Joe Shaw saying that they will be making "real"
Mandrake RPMs in the new few days.

-- 

Steve Fox
http://k-lug.com



Re: [Cooker] gnome helix (E+panel=done wrong)

2000-03-12 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Lord And Master;) wrote:
> 
> btw any news on the real mandrake specific helix-gnome rpms and not the redhat
> copies? thankx.
> 
> -DarkWlf
 
No answer from Miguel yet, apparently somepeople only work 6 days aweek.. 

-- 
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [Cooker] gnome helix (E+panel=done wrong)

2000-03-12 Thread Lord And Master;)

Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Lord And Master;) wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the workaround! hopefully we can get a more perminent fix though!...
> > especialy since if the enlightenment theme plays a sound file while the gnome
> > pannel is also playing a sound file.. sounds realy strange.. also i finaly
>
> Sounds like it's doing what it should, it's mixing the two sounds right?
>
> > tracked something down.. the bug with the licq swallowed app having to be
> > swallowed twice before it takes effect... it is a bug with enlightenment not
> > gnome.. while using sawmill it functioned normaly the first time. and worked
> > quite well.. hmm maybe enlightenment needs to work on there gnome support.
>
> Let me snag a cvs snap maybe.. :/
>

Already grabed the latest CVS of enlightenmnet.. no go , still the same bug with the
swallowed apps (it's not realy limited to licq swalloed app) that is just the only
one i use personly.. also the other bug with the panel is still there.. (this is as
of cvs date sun 12 enlgihtenment 16.4 snap) also I tried loading the panel from
eterm after it was booted and it would load after complaing that it was already
running (it was not acording to ps -aux. but once booted all the gnome panel applets
would promptly crash, though the pannel would stay running but attempting to run any
applet will still crash imieditly untill I shut down the whole thing and restart
(tried just switching from enlightenment to sawmill after the crash and it still
would crash that applets event hough i was no longer running enlightenment.. this is
a bug with the latest gnome panel and not with enlightemnet as it worked perfictly
with the gnome that came preinstalled with Mandrake 7.0.. so I am not sure about how
to go about debuging this one. any ideas? anything I can do to help? I would realy
like to see this working!


btw any news on the real mandrake specific helix-gnome rpms and not the redhat
copies? thankx.

-DarkWlf




Re: [Cooker] gnome helix (E+panel=done wrong)

2000-03-12 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Lord And Master;) wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the workaround! hopefully we can get a more perminent fix though!...
> especialy since if the enlightenment theme plays a sound file while the gnome
> pannel is also playing a sound file.. sounds realy strange.. also i finaly

Sounds like it's doing what it should, it's mixing the two sounds right?

> tracked something down.. the bug with the licq swallowed app having to be
> swallowed twice before it takes effect... it is a bug with enlightenment not
> gnome.. while using sawmill it functioned normaly the first time. and worked
> quite well.. hmm maybe enlightenment needs to work on there gnome support.

Let me snag a cvs snap maybe.. :/

> -DarkWlf
> 
> 

-- 
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [Cooker] gnome helix

2000-03-12 Thread Lord And Master;)

Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Lord And Master;) wrote:
> >
> > running the helix-gnome from there site with Mandrake 7.0 and
> > enlightemnet.. DOSE not work. they don't cooperate.
> > the panel will not load if enlightenment is loaded. it worked till I shut
> > down the desktop and reloaded it, after that the panel refused to come back
> > up.
> >
> > - DarkWlf
>
> Ahh IC now, it doesn't like that much does it. As a work around, make sure
> to disable the auto session save if it's on, open the 'Session Properties'
> and change the Oder for panel to like 9, basicly it works aslong as panel
> starts before E but everytime you save the session it will put it back at
> 40 and fail to start again.
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
> --Axalon

Thanks for the workaround! hopefully we can get a more perminent fix though!...
especialy since if the enlightenment theme plays a sound file while the gnome
pannel is also playing a sound file.. sounds realy strange.. also i finaly
tracked something down.. the bug with the licq swallowed app having to be
swallowed twice before it takes effect... it is a bug with enlightenment not
gnome.. while using sawmill it functioned normaly the first time. and worked
quite well.. hmm maybe enlightenment needs to work on there gnome support.

-DarkWlf




Re: [Cooker] gnome helix

2000-03-12 Thread Halfline


> > I haven't tried this, but why not try using E's session management
instead
>
> Haven't tryed which?
'this' in that sentence was referring to the sentences following that
sentence =)
> > of
> > Gnomes?  just Add
> > panel & gmc &
> > to your X startup script.  That might work.
>
> No because this isn't really session management
Ok, just an idea.

So if enlightenment is running, (w/o Gnome Started)
what happens when
panel &
is typed from an xterm?



Re: [Cooker] gnome helix

2000-03-12 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Halfline wrote:

> I haven't tried this, but why not try using E's session management instead

Haven't tryed which?

> of
> Gnomes?  just Add
> panel & gmc &
> to your X startup script.  That might work.

No because this isn't really session management

> - Original Message -
> From: "Axalon Bloodstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 7:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] gnome helix
> 
> 
> > On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Lord And Master;) wrote:
> > >
> > > running the helix-gnome from there site with Mandrake 7.0 and
> > > enlightemnet.. DOSE not work. they don't cooperate.
> > > the panel will not load if enlightenment is loaded. it worked till I
> shut
> > > down the desktop and reloaded it, after that the panel refused to come
> back
> > > up.
> > >
> > > - DarkWlf
> >
> > Ahh IC now, it doesn't like that much does it. As a work around, make sure
> > to disable the auto session save if it's on, open the 'Session Properties'
> > and change the Oder for panel to like 9, basicly it works aslong as panel
> > starts before E but everytime you save the session it will put it back at
> > 40 and fail to start again.
> >
> > --
> > MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
> > --Axalon
> >
> 

-- 
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [Cooker] gnome helix

2000-03-12 Thread Halfline

I haven't tried this, but why not try using E's session management instead
of
Gnomes?  just Add
panel & gmc &
to your X startup script.  That might work.
- Original Message -
From: "Axalon Bloodstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] gnome helix


> On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Lord And Master;) wrote:
> >
> > running the helix-gnome from there site with Mandrake 7.0 and
> > enlightemnet.. DOSE not work. they don't cooperate.
> > the panel will not load if enlightenment is loaded. it worked till I
shut
> > down the desktop and reloaded it, after that the panel refused to come
back
> > up.
> >
> > - DarkWlf
>
> Ahh IC now, it doesn't like that much does it. As a work around, make sure
> to disable the auto session save if it's on, open the 'Session Properties'
> and change the Oder for panel to like 9, basicly it works aslong as panel
> starts before E but everytime you save the session it will put it back at
> 40 and fail to start again.
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
> --Axalon
>



Re: [Cooker] gnome helix

2000-03-12 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Lord And Master;) wrote:
> 
> running the helix-gnome from there site with Mandrake 7.0 and
> enlightemnet.. DOSE not work. they don't cooperate.
> the panel will not load if enlightenment is loaded. it worked till I shut
> down the desktop and reloaded it, after that the panel refused to come back
> up.
> 
> - DarkWlf

Ahh IC now, it doesn't like that much does it. As a work around, make sure
to disable the auto session save if it's on, open the 'Session Properties'
and change the Oder for panel to like 9, basicly it works aslong as panel
starts before E but everytime you save the session it will put it back at
40 and fail to start again.

-- 
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [Cooker] gnome helix

2000-03-12 Thread Lord And Master;)

Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Lord And Master;) wrote:
>
> > I hope that the new helix mandrake rpms that are comming will support
> > enlightenment... sawmill is cool but I like My enlightenment!!
> >
> >
> >
> > other than that doing a carefull upgrade of most of the rpms that came
> > with 7.0 worked good
> >
> >
> > -DarkWlf
>
>
> Why would they stop... Sawmill is just the default..
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
> --Axalon

running the helix-gnome from there site with Mandrake 7.0 and
enlightemnet.. DOSE not work. they don't cooperate.
the panel will not load if enlightenment is loaded. it worked till I shut
down the desktop and reloaded it, after that the panel refused to come back
up.

- DarkWlf




Re: [Cooker] gnome helix

2000-03-11 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Lord And Master;) wrote:

> I hope that the new helix mandrake rpms that are comming will support
> enlightenment... sawmill is cool but I like My enlightenment!!
> 
> 
> 
> other than that doing a carefull upgrade of most of the rpms that came
> with 7.0 worked good
> 
> 
> -DarkWlf
 
 
Why would they stop... Sawmill is just the default.. 

-- 
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



[Cooker] gnome helix

2000-03-11 Thread Lord And Master;)

I hope that the new helix mandrake rpms that are comming will support
enlightenment... sawmill is cool but I like My enlightenment!!



other than that doing a carefull upgrade of most of the rpms that came
with 7.0 worked good


-DarkWlf