Re: [Cooker] minimum install
Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Christian Bricart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > another thought about a minimum install: > > > > why do I need to switch CDs in a minimum install...?? > > (rute-0.3.0-3mdk.noarch.rpm is on the Ext-CD) > > rute is installed in minimum install?? i lowered its value a few days ago. Maybe > you have an older version? > > % grep rute Mandrake/base/compssList > rute -15 -60 -35 > > it gets +90 in english, so it gives > > 75 30 55 > > which is lower than 90 ... 75 is too much anyway. fixed and commited in compssList 2 minutes ago. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] minimum install
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:27:11PM +0200, Pixel wrote: > Christian Bricart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > another thought about a minimum install: > > > > why do I need to switch CDs in a minimum install...?? > > (rute-0.3.0-3mdk.noarch.rpm is on the Ext-CD) > > rute is installed in minimum install?? i lowered its value a few days ago. Maybe > you have an older version? It's Ulysses 7.2Beta ISO ... Minimum Install was: Expert -> Server -> de-select all Christian P.S. Pixel: You have the installation log .. ;-)) -- Things that make you go "Hmmm": "If a train station is where the train stops, what is a workstation?"
Re: [Cooker] minimum install
Christian Bricart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > another thought about a minimum install: > > why do I need to switch CDs in a minimum install...?? > (rute-0.3.0-3mdk.noarch.rpm is on the Ext-CD) yes, rute as a big importance in english-language installs. gonna fix that. warly, i think this is not good to bring it back to first cd. > Could this please be relocated to the Inst-CD in the final release..? -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] minimum install
Christian Bricart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > another thought about a minimum install: > > why do I need to switch CDs in a minimum install...?? > (rute-0.3.0-3mdk.noarch.rpm is on the Ext-CD) rute is installed in minimum install?? i lowered its value a few days ago. Maybe you have an older version? % grep rute Mandrake/base/compssList rute -15 -60 -35 it gets +90 in english, so it gives 75 30 55 which is lower than 90 ...
Re: [Cooker] minimum install
another thought about a minimum install: why do I need to switch CDs in a minimum install...?? (rute-0.3.0-3mdk.noarch.rpm is on the Ext-CD) Could this please be relocated to the Inst-CD in the final release..? Thanks Christian -- Things that make you go "Hmmm": "If a train station is where the train stops, what is a workstation?"
Re: [Cooker] minimum install
Don Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You'll get about 180MB of pretty basic packages. > I went in and installed about 20-30 more packages > by hand, and had everything I needed for an > internal server here at work. if you have packages you would like not to be installed, give them! :)
RE: [Cooker] minimum install
>>> It's more than 54MB, though. It's actually >>> closer to 180MB, with around 140 packages. >>> Going >> >> well, it depends on the skill/class. >> >> did you try expert/workstation > > is that 180mb installed or total rpm size if > its installed size then could you give me a > list of the commands (script) to build this > out. Pretty simple. Expert. Server. Deselect all the package groups. Do not select individual packages. Ta da! You'll get about 180MB of pretty basic packages. I went in and installed about 20-30 more packages by hand, and had everything I needed for an internal server here at work. Don Head [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Linux Mentor, LCA, Network+ [1 314 692-1942] Wave Technologies, Inc. [1 800 826-4640 x1942] [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935][Yahoo - Don_Wave]
Re: [Cooker] minimum install
> It's more than 54MB, though. It's actually > closer to 180MB, with around 140 packages. Going well, it depends on the skill/class. did you try expert/workstation - is that 180mb installed or total rpm size if its installed size then could you give me a list of the commands (script) to build this out.
Re: [Cooker] minimum install
Don Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's more than 54MB, though. It's actually > closer to 180MB, with around 140 packages. Going well, it depends on the skill/class. did you try expert/workstation?
RE: [Cooker] minimum install
>> runlevel. I tried 3, and it didn't budge. Oh >> well, no big deal. > > this of course not the way it should be ;) Nope. And a second try after another rsync revealed the that problem was on my end. I had a few bad packages (apparently I got bitten by the rsync bug). So.. it works. I did an Expert Server install, selecting no additional packages or package groups, and was greeted with a working system. It's more than 54MB, though. It's actually closer to 180MB, with around 140 packages. Going to try yet again as that seems a little high (wondering if maybe I selected something by accident), but that's what I'm looking at right now. Still, 180MB isn't too bad. It would be nice if it could get a little smaller, though. Don Head [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Linux Mentor, LCA, Network+ [1 314 692-1942] Wave Technologies, Inc. [1 800 826-4640 x1942] [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935][Yahoo - Don_Wave]
Re: [Cooker] minimum install
Don Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > runlevel. I tried 3, and it didn't budge. Oh > well, no big deal. this of course not the way it should be ;)
RE: [Cooker] minimum install
> In expert, if you choose server, the minimum, > you get base + MAKEDEV at fetchmail file ftp > glibc hexedit ipchains ld.so libnet mailx > mirrordir mkinitrd mkxauth netkit-base pam > portmap pwdb routed rsh rsync samba sharutils > slocate tcp_wrappers telnet-server urpmi vlock I tried this this morning after an rsync, and it left me with a useless system. Going to try again, wouldn't surprise me if there's a problem with the sync (a few others are reporting problems..). To be a little more detailed, when the install finished and rebooted, it prompted me for a runlevel. I tried 3, and it didn't budge. Oh well, no big deal. Like I said, I'm trying again a little later today, so I'll let you know what happens. =) Don Head [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Linux Mentor, LCA, Network+ [1 314 692-1942] Wave Technologies, Inc. [1 800 826-4640 x1942] [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935][Yahoo - Don_Wave]
Re: [Cooker] minimum install tarball?
Robert L Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ii challenge > any Mandrake Employee to give me step by step on how to install Mandrake > on a Zip 250 (base + x + net + any WM) - throw away Mandrake/mdkinst (if you have more than > 32MB, and XF86_FB is working, no pb) - choose your RPMS in Mandrake/RPMS (beware of dependencies) - run genhdlists - boot on hd.img (you can prepare your zip to boot on it, but for this, see the command oem on the rescue) - install! ok, so now, where is the pb? - Mandrake/base is 17MB - that leaves 83MB of rpms, that should fit :) cu Pixel.
Re: [Cooker] minimum install
Pelon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> With such a base there is no need for an option
> for it in the installer. But it would be very
> convenient to be able to choose the base and X
> Windows, for example. Or base + kernel
> development.
in fact, you can't install the 54MB without cheating. In every case, DrakX
ensure that you have more that this bare minimum, unless you use some tricks
(defcfg, auto_install)
So, in expert, if you choose workstation (was normal), the minimum, you get base +
MAKEDEV XFree86 XFree86-75dpi-fonts cpio eject file ftp hexedit icewm-light
kudzu ld.so libnet linux_logo linuxconf locales mailx menu mkinitrd mtools
slocate telnet urpmi
In expert, if you choose development, the minimum, you get base +
MAKEDEV at cpio eject file ftp gcc gdb glibc glibc-devel hexedit indent kudzu
ld.so libnet linux_logo locales mailx make mkinitrd ncompress pam perl procinfo
slocate telnet unzip urpmi zlib
In expert, if you choose server, the minimum, you get base +
MAKEDEV at fetchmail file ftp glibc hexedit ipchains ld.so libnet mailx
mirrordir mkinitrd mkxauth netkit-base pam portmap pwdb routed rsh rsync samba
sharutils slocate tcp_wrappers telnet-server urpmi vlock
PS: this result may change
PS2: obtained using
perl -e "print '\<\(', join('\|', @ARGV), '\)\>'" $(rpm -qR basesystem) > /tmp/z
perl -ane 'print "$F[0]\n" if $F[1] >= 90' compssList | grep -v $(cat /tmp/z)
perl -ane 'print "$F[0]\n" if $F[3] >= 90' compssList | grep -v $(cat /tmp/z)
perl -ane 'print "$F[0]\n" if $F[2] >= 90' compssList | grep -v $(cat /tmp/z)
Re: [Cooker] minimum install
On Sat, 02 Sep 2000, Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > basesystem and its dependencies is now 54MB :) Those who have older drives with limited space understand the argument for such a minimal install. But there are also some of us who are plain old control freaks. We want to know every package on our systems, where it resides, what it does, and who uses it. With a standard install of most any distribution there are hundreds of programs, and for some, several running daemons that are unfamiliar to the administrator. That fact alone is a security risk. One could argue that I could create my own distribution, but I'm unwilling to spend endless hours writing init scripts and organizing my own boot process. With Mandrake's basic 54 megabytes I can begin cleanly, with a base that I am familiar with and have great confidence in. With this foundation I can build exactly what I want. >From here, I plan to add the necessary software to rebuild the kernel in my own image ;) , add a few select packages, and then create a custom installation disk for each of several functions (router, firewall, internet connection, file server, print server, backup machine). And finally, I'll have confidence that each linux box is doing only what it was made to do. If there are problems, I will know exactly what to look for. No ghost processes. With such a base there is no need for an option for it in the installer. But it would be very convenient to be able to choose the base and X Windows, for example. Or base + kernel development. pelon
